SB 155 filed yesterday would finally allow a change to the Sunday alcohol sales law - restaurants could begin serving at 10am if voters approve, although you still couldn't buy from retail outlets until noon. A few other changes in there as well related to liquor. I'd prefer the bill just make sales on Sunday the same time as every day of the week, but at least it's progress on the Sunday alcohol front.

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2017&BillID=S155

3/2/2017 6:19:15 AM

Wait

Is this the first good thing they're proposed in 27 pages of this thread?

Nm this is clearly a bi-partisan bill

[Edited on March 2, 2017 at 8:55 AM. Reason : ]

3/2/2017 8:53:40 AM

Yea, didn't mean to imply it was a GOP only bill. I'm assuming the House bill will also be bi-partisan, but we'll see when it's filed.

3/2/2017 11:20:54 AM

This one is bi-partisan too but the R's control the legislature so it's getting filed in this thread. HB 279 seeks to regulate the scourge of fantasy sports...

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2017&BillID=H279

Very ambiguous language in this bill that I could easily see being applied by some busybody at the secretary of state's office to your office fantasy league - despite the "good intentions" of the bill drafters for it to only apply to those big fantasy leagues that advertise incessantly. But this still accepts the premise that fantasy sports should be regulated by the state... a premise I reject.

3/9/2017 1:54:20 PM

the good thing at least is that it explicitly legalizes commercial fantasy leagues, but its pretty dumb the way its written with no exclusions. the obvious exclusion should be if there is no net revenue

3/9/2017 2:02:00 PM

Can we agree the NC GOP has no credibility.

Consistently in Oregon i hear more about those clowns than any other state combined in the national news.

3/9/2017 8:39:21 PM

It's almost as if Rep. Saine is proud of being a whore, how else can you explain this tweet? See, the current market participants support our bill to erect barriers to entry for competitors, so the rest of you should like this bill too.

https://twitter.com/JasonSaine97th/status/839918804230627329

3/10/2017 6:28:45 AM

http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/2017/03/10/fake-news-gop-leader-bergers-staff-alters-headlines-cooper/98997970/

Phil Berger caught using some Facebook editing tool? To change newspaper headlines and pictures such that they painted Gov. Cooper in as bad of light as possible. Berger has always been a lying asshole, but come the fuck on. I just known Auntie Gertrude up in Eden is eating that shit up too. Fuck this guy and his supporters.

3/10/2017 7:46:06 AM

House Representative Mark Brody is filing a bill to determine whether churches have violated their tax-exempt status by engaging in political or lobbying activities.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article138120728.html

3/13/2017 12:07:05 PM

I think they're doing that with the ACC and NCAA too, no?

3/15/2017 4:16:33 PM

we're about to lose all NCAA events through the year 2023 thanks to these assholes

ACC Tournaments/Championships, too

3/23/2017 2:52:38 PM

In before beatsunc calling the NCAA the real bigots.

3/23/2017 3:03:59 PM

my humor was too subtle

3/23/2017 3:11:50 PM

this new HB2 compromise bill doesn't seem better than what was already rejected

3/30/2017 9:34:40 AM

Other than the fact that this moratorium supposedly ends in 4 years, I agree. Plus there's nothing to say that the GA won't try to re-up that ban if they keep their seats.

3/30/2017 9:45:46 AM

Quote :

"this new HB2 compromise bill doesn't seem better than what was already rejected"

So then doesn't this belong in the Cooper credibility thread?

3/30/2017 10:53:04 AM

Considering this asinine bill is a GOP concoction, no.

3/30/2017 11:02:05 AM

Quote :

"Republican legislative leaders in North Carolina and Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper say they have an agreement to end the state's "bathroom bill" that they hope removes any obstacles to expanding businesses and attracting sporting events."

Quote :

"Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper said in a statement overnight that he supported the compromise."

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article141656549.html#storylink=cpy

Y'all are just willfully ignorant.

3/30/2017 12:05:36 PM

This is an NC GOP sponsored bill to repeal an earlier disastrous NC GOP bill that has garnered widespread disdain and has cost this state untold billions of dollars.

What exactly are you trying to argue here HCH?

3/30/2017 12:17:08 PM

its a republican bill, they get 100% of the fault for causing this problem

cooper loses credibility for signing it, but republicans left him with little choice

both deserve criticism, but the NC GOP still owns this clusterfuck

3/30/2017 12:17:56 PM

HCH, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.

Cooper doing the best he can to make sure that permanent damage isn't done to the state. It's a shitty compromise that he's having to make in order for the NCGA to stop doubling down on making the state a laughingstock and keep it from losing more business. It's a step in the right direction though, even if the GA still wants to keep legislating city gov't (which I thought was against GOP cornerstone principals, but whatever).

So...if you want this in the Cooper thread it'd be + credibility anyway for trying to make the most of this shit situation the GOP put us in.

[Edited on March 30, 2017 at 12:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/30/2017 12:22:23 PM

it pains me how so many people don't realize how little power Cooper actually has when dealing with the NCGA

and those same people don't seem to understand that a lot of these people can be voted out during the next round of elections, and that while this isn't a perfect solution, it's at the very least a foot in the door

3/30/2017 4:25:46 PM

We are currently set for a full election for all 170 members of the NC House/Senate under redrawn districts, btw.

3/30/2017 5:26:40 PM

lol at the democrats submitting a bill to ban high capacity (15+) magazines, require liability insurance, and strengthen storage requirements among other things with this congress. what a waste of time.
http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2017&BillID=H723

[Edited on April 11, 2017 at 12:05 PM. Reason : .]

4/11/2017 12:05:04 PM

they just wanna have something to campaign on i guess

[Edited on April 11, 2017 at 12:22 PM. Reason : obvi a waste of time]

4/11/2017 12:21:48 PM

There is a representative from Pender county who wants to impeach the NC Secretary of State over the process to get certified as a notary public. Apparently there are like 300+ people across the state who do not have full legal citizenship yet are notary publics, and this guy has taken issue with it.

Is he slow or something? Impeaching someone over something so small of an issue will just draw a lot of negative publicity to the issue and cost a lot of money. Why not just tackle each case of "improper" notary public certifications on a case by case basis, then add some oversight if he thinks it is needed.

4/11/2017 12:22:06 PM

I think you answered your own question.

4/11/2017 1:04:18 PM

Quote :

"Uphold Historical Marriage Act."

http://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bills/House/PDF/H780v0.pdf

http://www.ncleg.net/gascripts/BillLookUp/BillLookUp.pl?Session=2017&BillID=H780

Quote :

"4 Whereas, the 10th Amendment of the United States Constitution states that "The 5 powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, 6 are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people"; and 7 Whereas, the enumerated powers of the federal government, as outlined in the 8 United States Constitution, do not include the authority or power to establish laws concerning 9 marriage; and 10 Whereas, it is, therefore, clear that laws concerning marriage are for each state to 11 establish and maintain severally and independently; and 12 Whereas, the People of the State of North Carolina approved the Marriage 13 Amendment of 2012, which is now included as Section 6 of Article XIV of the North Carolina 14 Constitution, with a 61% affirmative vote; and 15 Whereas, the United States Supreme Court overstepped its constitutional bounds 16 when it struck down Section 6 of Article XIV of the North Carolina Constitution in its 17 Obergefell v. Hodges decision of 2015; and 18 Whereas, the ruling of the United States Supreme Court not only exceeds the 19 authority of the Court relative to the State of North Carolina and a vote of the People of the 20 State on an issue pertaining solely to the State of North Carolina and the People of North 21 Carolina but also exceeds the authority of the Court relative to the decree of Almighty God that 22 "a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become 23 one flesh" (Genesis 2:24, ESV) and abrogates the clear meaning and understanding of marriage 24 in all societies throughout prior history; Now, therefore, 25 The General Assembly of North Carolina enacts: 26 SECTION 1. G.S. 51-1.2 reads as rewritten: 27 "§ 51-1.2. Marriages between persons of the same gender not valid. 28 (a) The General Assembly of the State of North Carolina declares that the Obergefell v. 29 Hodges decision of the United States Supreme Court of 2015 is null and void in the State of 30 North Carolina, and that the State of North Carolina shall henceforth uphold and enforce 31 Section 6 of Article XIV of the North Carolina Constitution, the opinion and objection of the 32 United States Supreme Court notwithstanding. 33 (b) Marriages, whether created by common law, contracted, or performed outside of 34 North Carolina, between individuals of the same gender are not valid in North Carolina.""

[Edited on April 11, 2017 at 4:23 PM. Reason : assholes]

4/11/2017 4:22:20 PM

And here we go. You know this'll rocket straight to the SCOTUS once these chuckleheads pass it.

Also the NCAA will pull right back out of NC if it does go through.

[Edited on April 11, 2017 at 4:34 PM. Reason : ]

4/11/2017 4:27:50 PM

literally including scripture, but these people pretend like sharia law is the threat

4/11/2017 5:04:59 PM

30% of Americans, which probably equates to 50-60% of republicans believe you must be Christian to be considered a true American.

4/11/2017 5:59:55 PM

-10,000 for being christo-fascists and wasting the state'stime and money

+10 for being amazingly persistent. They just keep getting back up and passing these zany bills even after being slapped down by the courts repeatedly.

4/11/2017 6:09:49 PM

The NCAA should have never decided to return to NC. The HB2 '"compromise" was complete bullshit. This bill is of course another total embarrassment. The problem is gerrymandered districts and half the candidates running unopposed.

4/11/2017 9:00:47 PM

lol, didn't take long for republicans to kill that bill

4/12/2017 1:17:38 PM

http://m.indyweek.com/news/archives/2017/04/12/nc-representative-larry-pittman-calls-abraham-lincoln-the-same-sort-of-tyrant-as-hitler-and-we-are-not-even-making-that-up

4/12/2017 3:44:57 PM

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/19142531/under-new-bill-north-carolina-nc-state-required-withdraw-acc-conference-boycotts-state

#WhyIHateIdealogues

4/12/2017 3:56:01 PM

that dude is a real piece of work: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1349358688440523&id=101841759858895

[Edited on April 12, 2017 at 3:57 PM. Reason : ^^]

4/12/2017 3:56:42 PM

that guy has always been one of the absolute worst humans in the General Assembly

4/12/2017 3:59:44 PM

http://theslot.jezebel.com/gop-lawmaker-calls-abe-lincoln-the-same-sort-of-tyrant-1794291304

4/13/2017 12:35:55 PM

^ see ^^^^^

[Edited on April 13, 2017 at 12:37 PM. Reason : .]

4/13/2017 12:37:39 PM

Well, the constitutionality of the Civil War could definitely be debated, but it's use, obviously, has long been established. 800,000 is a pretty high number. Most realistic figures come in around 650k. This guy is a scumbag, and we'll see him issue an apology and then everybody will forget about this in 3 weeks.

4/13/2017 12:39:01 PM

^^

Yes I saw. Posting bc NC in the news!

4/13/2017 12:40:49 PM

*OLD*
http://www.theonion.com/article/north-carolina-residents-terrified-after-hearing-s-52670

4/13/2017 9:26:06 PM

NC Beer Wine Wholesaler lobbyists and pro-business (not pro-market) wing of the NC GOP wins again. Craft Freedom appears to be dead this session...

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/under-the-dome/article145451619.html

4/19/2017 11:13:37 AM

And a little more background on the provisions removed from HB500. The ABC hearing today at 3pm should be interesting, it's being livestreamed by the Craft Freedom folks.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/news-article/craft-brewers-not-giving-up-on-expanding-self-distribution/

4/19/2017 12:32:27 PM

So would you say it's more the distribution companies or actual beer bottlers (In Bev) running interference?

I was hoping Miller leaving Eden would push Berger's vindictive buttons and he'd come out swinging on some of these. But money talks I guess.

4/19/2017 8:22:51 PM

Yes, I'd say it's 98% the fault of the NC Beer and Wine Wholesalers Assoc. (the distributors) and their lobbyist and 2% the fault of Rev. Creech and his Baptist website. The original bootlegger-baptist coalition. I can't find the stat right now, but the distributors and their lobbying arm gave $1.5 million in campaign contributions over the past 3-4 years. Hopefully the @ncbeer/Craft Freedom folks will actually name the legislators responsible for killing this bill so they can be targeted in next year's election.

4/20/2017 6:16:58 AM

I hope we can at least get traction on the Brunch Bill.

4/20/2017 7:39:19 AM

I haven't seen that one make it to a committee hearing yet. It still doesn't allow for retail sales before noon for some inexplicable reason, but it's progress I suppose.

4/20/2017 7:49:46 AM

Quote :

"You should know what just happened to our Court of Appeals, because it's nuts. Our Court of Appeals has 15 judges. We just passed a law to shrink it to 12. Why? Because three of them are hitting the age of mandatory retirement soon and Gov. Cooper would be allowed to appoint their replacements. That's it. That's the whole reason. There was abundant evidence presented to the legislature that the Court of Appeals has a heavy workload and this bill will slow down the disposition of justice in our state, but the bill was quickly passed despite these warnings. Notably, the last four Chief Justices of our state Supreme Court Justices - a bipartisan group - all strongly opposed the effort. Here's the most remarkable part: The move was so extreme that it compelled one of our judges on the Court of Appeals who was approaching mandatory retirement - and is a conservative Republican - to resign his seat in protest of the law and thereby allow Gov. Cooper to appoint a replacement. As he said, “I did not want my legacy to be the elimination of a seat and the impairment of a court that I have served on." Gov. Cooper vetoed the bill, but the veto was overridden by the GOP supermajorities that currently exist in both chambers. It's now law. What can we do? Only one thing: pick up three seats in the House or six seats in the Senate, break the supermajority, unlock Gov. Cooper's veto, and restore political balance in our state."

Just blatant power grabs. SMH. I really don't see myself EVER voting GOP for the rest of my life at this point. As epically shitty as many of the federal GOP reps are, it's really been the NC GOP that has sent me over the edge. This state isn't gonna reach its potential till we stomp these fucks out.

4/28/2017 8:48:13 PM