TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
re: David Thompson not making the author's original NC State lineup:
Quote : | "Don't even follow college hoops very well, more the pro game, and definitely not NC State, but even stopped reading this after seeing that. After all the spelling errors of players names that was the fat man that broke the camels back." | ]2/19/2015 1:08:34 AM |
DonMega Save TWW 4201 Posts user info edit post |
Here's a list of all our all americans, probably a starting place for objectively picking a starting five (although we did this a few years ago too).
http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/all-americans.html 2/19/2015 9:10:25 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
I never really watched Gugliotta because I was like 8 when he played. Was he better than Warren? Serious question. Warren only had two seasons and was ACC POY in his Sophomore season. Gugliotta averaged 11 pts his sophomore season while TJ averaged 25. 2/19/2015 9:34:12 AM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
he was a better rebounder and three-point shooter than TJ.
not saying Googs would have won a POY award otherwise, but keep in mind that where TJ had to shoulder pretty much the entire load last year, Googs played most of his years with at least a couple other good-to-great scorers (Monroe, Corch, Chucky Brown, Brian Howard, Kevin Thompson, etc.) taking their fair share of shots 2/19/2015 10:09:52 AM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Reading the comments, it looks like whoever wrote this must have left off David Thompson at first before he got called out and then corrected it. So he's more than likely an idiot or did no research at all. " |
Normally, I would give journalists a pass but this is pretty bad. How do you leave out one of the greatest in college hoops? I mean this is the guy that caused Jordan to grow up a State fan and whom he modeled his game after, tisk tisk.2/19/2015 11:00:40 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Jordan grew up a State fan? Why didn't we get him then? Serious question. 2/19/2015 11:03:53 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Yes. I'm not sure if State actually recruited him, I don't know if he was that highly recruited. Coming out of high school, I don't think he showed any real signs of going on to be one of the best players in the world.
http://elitedaily.com/sports/north-carolina-recruited-michael-jordan/ 2/19/2015 11:25:00 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
^^He wanted to start his own legacy or some dumb shit 2/19/2015 11:26:50 AM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Jordan grew up a State fan? Why didn't we get him then? Serious question." |
Dean Smith heavily recruited him after he saw Jordan's will to win in a basketball camp in high school. Jordan got offers from Duke & State but by then it was too late as Smith already built a relationship with him.2/19/2015 11:38:32 AM |
yrey All American 1150 Posts user info edit post |
2/19/2015 11:39:54 AM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
That's why the whole "growing up a UNC fan" thing from Space Jam was bullshit. 2/19/2015 12:07:53 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
KW has been on the front page of nbadraft.net for a while.
http://www.nbadraft.net/under-radar-spotlight
Quote : | " The sophomore big man from Minnesota has been a mainstay in the Wolfpack lineup this season. After having an up and down freshman season that saw him in and out of the starting lineup, Washington has cemented himself in Head Coach Mark Gottfried's rotation this season. " |
Article fails to mention that he is still below 10 ppg.2/19/2015 2:02:02 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Washington still has a ways to go before he will be considered a high level NBA prospect " |
And he's 6'9", can shoot, and is athletic so it's not a surprise he's being discussed.2/19/2015 2:05:42 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
yeah he can shoot, he can shoot 15 foot jumpers 10 seconds into the shot clock like a champ jackass 2/19/2015 2:35:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
45% from the field, considering how many jump shots he takes, isn't bad. And I'll take 50% from 3 any day. 2/19/2015 2:42:35 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
He's averaging less than 20 mpg and 6 ppg in the last five games, including only 7 minutes and two points against louisville and 13 minutes and 2 points against WF. 2/19/2015 2:45:22 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
he has no chill
sometimes that's a good trait to have when the team is down, but other times he forces things without letting things develop around him 2/19/2015 2:53:45 PM |
skaterjaws All American 1492 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder how many bangwagoneers we would have had if Jordan came here.... 2/20/2015 12:12:42 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
I can relate to Washington because I feel like he plays like I played. Seems like everything is going 200mph in his head when he gets the ball. Amazing that he shoots as well as he does with as spastic as he is. 2/20/2015 12:51:06 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
because they say that's all he does...always in the gym doing shooting drills. 2/20/2015 12:53:06 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
45% is fucking terrible for a big man. Big men need to shoot much higher than that, and they do that by taking close range shots, not jumpers. And he sucks at rebounding and he sucks at defense. And he doesn't draw any FTs.
He's either a shitty big man or a shitty guard.
I'd rather have Lacey taking any shot than Washington taking a jumper.
As it turns out, Washington takes the biggest percentage of shots on the team, even more than Lacey. That's insane. Guy's a ball hog
[Edited on February 20, 2015 at 2:01 AM. Reason : .] 2/20/2015 1:55:43 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Why is the VT game on ESPN2 but when we play UNC it will be on ESPN3?
Are the Tarheel alumni at the network so paranoid that we will beat them on national television? 2/20/2015 2:56:00 AM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
It's on "ACC network" 2/20/2015 6:58:34 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd rather have Lacey taking any shot than Washington taking a jumper." |
I feel like a say this every game. I like that Washington has the jump shot in his arsenal, but I only want him shooting it if he's wide open and the shot clock is getting low. It gives us almost no chance at an offensive rebound if he misses and often leads to a fast break for the other team.
Still, I'd rather have him shooting 15 foot jumpers than trying anything in the post. Spastic is the perfect word for him down there. There's just nothing natural and fluid about his game.2/20/2015 10:52:36 AM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As it turns out, Washington takes the biggest percentage of shots on the team, even more than Lacey. That's insane. Guy's a ball hog" |
that's not true, unless you meant on a per-minute basis, which even still there is a negligible difference between Lacey and Washington.2/20/2015 10:56:45 AM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
lol - Julius Hodge on podcast, talking about Coach Gott starters vs. bench players http://abc11.com/sports/mark-armstrong-the-brain-trust-episode-3-/464749/ 2/20/2015 6:31:58 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
in theory, washington has nba size for the 4, a jump shot that extends to three point range and is long/springy which would lead you to believe he's fairly athletic
then you watch him play and it's like he discovered the sport 6 months ago and learned how to run maybe a year before that 2/20/2015 10:29:45 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "45% is fucking terrible for a big man. Big men need to shoot much higher than that, and they do that by taking close range shots, not jumpers." |
Dirk Nowitzki needs to stop shooting jumpers to up that fucking terrible 46% from the field2/20/2015 10:56:59 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Are schedule is not as easy as y'all are making it out to be from here on out. 3-2 is definitely more realistic than 4-1.
[Edited on February 21, 2015 at 8:19 AM. Reason : e] 2/21/2015 8:19:29 AM |
Sayer now with sarcasm 9841 Posts user info edit post |
2-3 is more realistic than 4-1
we lose to unc and two other randos
[Edited on February 21, 2015 at 8:22 AM. Reason : math is hard] 2/21/2015 8:21:58 AM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
In terms of being optimistic, then I would say that 3-2 is more reasonable than 4-1, and 2-3 would just suck. 2/21/2015 8:26:31 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
No reason at all for us to lose to VT or BC. Both are horrible. UNC is obviously the toughest game on the slate, but both the Clemson and Syracuse games will be difficult. Clemson always plays us tough in Littlejohn and that Syracuse game will be their last game of the season so you know they will be playing hard. 2/21/2015 10:12:30 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's why the whole "growing up a UNC fan" thing from Space Jam was bullshit. " |
Plot holes in Space Jam???? No way. 2/21/2015 12:16:47 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
^ I know right. Gets me upset every time. Damn Looney Tunes. 2/21/2015 12:54:21 PM |
WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 21, 2015 at 12:59 PM. Reason : .]
2/21/2015 12:57:27 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
The difference between our record and UNC is 2 ACC wins and 3 wins overall.
Had we made that one extra basket ore one less foul called ugainst us when we played Wofford, Wake, ND...or even against UNC the first time...and we still wouldn't be ranked #15, even with our stellar strength of schedule.
[Edited on February 21, 2015 at 8:41 PM. Reason : -] 2/21/2015 8:41:35 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Still don't like our chances on Tuesday. All the years of taking beat downs by UNC has jaded me. 2/21/2015 11:19:52 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
^^ good point, but note that UNC's SOS(RPI) is just barely behind ours - and they are at #3 overall. Their schedule has also been tough in all fairness.
in other news, interesting point that seems to be even better sway towards an NCAAT bid if we can win at least 2 of the next 3. Esp if the committee looks more at our big wins than our wtf losses:
Quote : | "Last weekend, the NCAA held its annual media mock selection exercise. We've attended in the past, and it really is an informative, insightful and insanely nerdy way to get a better understanding of the committee's select-and-seed workflow. Every year, we pay close attention to what new attendees write afterward, because -- amid the typical revelations about the NCAA's proprietary software and the bewilderment at the many seeding requirements -- there are usually a few nuggets worth keeping in mind.
For example: This week, one committee member told Grantland's Mark Titus: "I care more about who you can beat than who can beat you." Do big wins matter more than bad losses? Detroit Free Press writer Joe Rexrode told his readers that the mock committee looked at "every possible number and intangible measure of quality," including "individual players who make a team more viable -- such as Green Bay point guard Keifer Sykes." That sounds like a new idea, but it could easily explain NC State's surprise T.J. Warren-led bid last season. " |
2/22/2015 8:28:50 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
UNC deserves credit for beating UCLA, Florida, and Ohio State. And no way were they going to beat Kentucky.
But since ACC play started they haven't been terribly impressive. Against the other ACC ranked teams, UNC is 1-4 and we are 2-3. Considering how close the first game was, I just don't think they are that much better than we are, they just don't have any embarrassing losses. 2/22/2015 2:49:56 PM |
F1V3LSU All American 1530 Posts user info edit post |
All three of those teams you want to give UNC credit for will be unranked next week.
Florida is terrible. UCLA isnt much better. And OSU is #24 and about to go down to Michigan.
Now we have successfully discredited all their wins. Their record against current ranked teams will be 1-6 I think cuz they beat Louisville by 1 at home
[Edited on February 22, 2015 at 3:01 PM. Reason : UNx] 2/22/2015 2:52:27 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
UNC is 15 to our 45 in Pomeroy.
13 to our 46 in the RPI.
They actually only have one more top 100 win than us but we have a few bad losses they don't. 2/23/2015 10:17:37 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
I really hate this play in nonsense where you have to play in for an 11 or 12 seed.
The worst teams should have to play in for 16 seeds regardless of automatic qualifiers etc. 2/23/2015 12:09:54 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Lunardi's new bracket almost has us in the "first four byes" category. In the ESPN Insider odds it has us with 12% chance of making the S16 and 0.8% for the Final Four.
UNC is at 56% and 6.4% respectively
UVA at 80%, 40% respectively and 10.9% for winning it all.
He's actually got Gonzaga with the second highest chance to win it all with UK at 32.9% for winning it all 2/23/2015 1:52:37 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Wofford solidly a 12 without a play-in. Oh what could have been. 2/23/2015 2:04:06 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
They have a better RPI than us. Have to really hope they get an auto bid. 2/23/2015 2:10:29 PM |
statered All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Lunardi's bracket is usually pretty spot-on as far as who makes the tourney, but Gonzaga with the 2nd best chance of winning the whole thing?...Really? They've only made it past the Sweet 16 once and that was to the Elite 8 back in 1999. Not sure why he would think it'll be any different this year. 2/23/2015 2:17:19 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
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TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
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bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Hey Maggie! 2/23/2015 2:39:19 PM |
WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
So I'm trying to buy tickets for the ACC Tourney....what seed are we projected to be?? 2/23/2015 2:53:55 PM |