Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think he's one of the superb athletes, and he's a good human being. I just think that he fell into a bad situation" |
Despite all the evidence against it, yeah... I think he just "fell into a bad situation." It's not like he financed this shit or had a past history of doing stupid shit.8/22/2007 4:42:13 PM |
GraniteBalls Aging fast 12262 Posts user info edit post |
Oh god I hope that's a sarcastic post.
If it is, you need more s 8/22/2007 4:43:02 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
well atleast he didn't roll up in a stretched Navi and stab a dude 8/22/2007 4:43:50 PM |
jccraft1 Veteran 387 Posts user info edit post |
my question to the NAACP is simple
If Mike Vick was the head of the Atlanta division of the NAACP, would you hire him back once he gets out of jail. STFU then 8/22/2007 4:51:01 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
royalflush, you think vick was set up?
I dont understand your post if you dont believe it. I think there is a difference from being set up for murder than funding illegal dog fighting. Look at it this way, without vick it doesnt happen at this address. I seriously doubt Q and the other worthless idiots are able to fund such an opperation like the one they had without ole ookie writing the checks.
THey are all idiots, its that simple. 8/22/2007 4:53:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
here's the tasty nugget of irony for the day folks...
This whole operation was discovered when his cousin was busted for drugs and they searched the property and found the dogfighting equipment, etc....well do you know how he was busted for drugs? a police dog sniffed them out
so in a sense, it was a dog who uncovered this whole thing ] 8/22/2007 5:08:31 PM |
GraniteBalls Aging fast 12262 Posts user info edit post |
DEFINE IRONY 8/22/2007 5:12:58 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""I think it's tough that we build Michael Vick up and then we break him down," Marbury said." |
8/22/2007 5:28:09 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
haha 8/22/2007 6:50:23 PM |
strudle66 All American 1573 Posts user info edit post |
http://broadband.espn.go.com/ivp/splash2?id=2986866
haha, this fred mccrary interview was... interesting. 8/22/2007 8:37:39 PM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
What I just don't understand is, Vick has supposedly been involved with this since 2001. How in the hell did not even a small hint of this not get leaked out. With the age of cell phones with cameras etc, you think someone would have taken a picture of him at a fight, or someone who lost at a fight to some of his dogs, would leak the story out of revenge. I just don't see how one of the most famous names in the NFL can attend dog fights, and not a word of it gets out for 6 years. Its not like all these people are that loyal, his 3 so called friends turned on his ass pretty quick. 8/22/2007 11:33:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
^i talked to somebody in a bar a few months ago who was in charlotte for business but lives in virginia in surrey county...said one of his buddies in maybe 2005 or 2004 heard vick was at some dog fight, but at the time either didnt think it was a huge deal or didnt put 2 and 2 together or whatever...could of just been one of those things that you hear about and stash in the back of your mind...dunno...i wouldnt be surprised if some witnesses or videos come out now that the trial and charges are so famous now 8/23/2007 12:10:31 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
If someone had videos or pictures of this, they would have sold them by now. Because they haven't, I doubt any exist, which is very very odd. 8/23/2007 1:57:48 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
The Federal Prosecutor apparently does have photos of Vick at a fight... think it was a cell phone camera, if I remember reading correctly. 8/23/2007 2:01:40 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think anyone on here has heard or read anything about photos of Vick being at a fight. If they were out there and mentioned anywhere, they would have been mentioned all over Sportscenter and PTI, ATH, etc....or in any major newspaper. The fact that they haven't makes me question if you actually read that or not. 8/23/2007 2:06:54 AM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What I just don't understand is, Vick has supposedly been involved with this since 2001. How in the hell did not even a small hint of this not get leaked out. With the age of cell phones with cameras etc, you think someone would have taken a picture of him at a fight, or someone who lost at a fight to some of his dogs, would leak the story out of revenge. I just don't see how one of the most famous names in the NFL can attend dog fights, and not a word of it gets out for 6 years. Its not like all these people are that loyal, his 3 so called friends turned on his ass pretty quick." |
if serial killers can make a name for themselves than I think Vick could get away with some dog fighting for a while8/23/2007 2:13:28 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 8/23/2007 2:14:50 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if serial killers can make a name for themselves than I think Vick could get away with some dog fighting for a while" |
Well consider most, if not all serial killers were complete loners, and didn't do their killing in front of crowd of people, this is nowhere even close to being the same thing.
This just amazes me....
Quote : | "RICHMOND, Va. -- More than 50 pit bulls seized from Michael Vick's property face a Thursday deadline to be claimed. If no one comes forward, they could be euthanized" |
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2986955
Fucking amazing. Arrest the guy for dogfighting and killing dogs, only to kill the same dogs you "rescued" from his property.
[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 2:26 AM. Reason : .]
[Edited on August 23, 2007 at 2:26 AM. Reason : m]8/23/2007 2:21:05 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
POLL:
What will Vick's prison nickname be?
A. Vicky B. Hydrant C. Bitch 8/23/2007 2:28:05 AM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
I think he should just stick to Ookie 8/23/2007 2:31:57 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
He is going to be in prison with a lot of black people. He is more than likely a hero to most of these guys and will not be a bitch to anyone. If anything, he will have a crew protecting him. But I seriously doubt he is gonna just be chillin in gen pop. 8/23/2007 2:35:10 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
^^haha i should've made that choice 'D'
^i do think plenty of people in prison will respect what he's doing...but not everybody 8/23/2007 2:45:52 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
You ever met a black man in prison that didn't like a little dog fighting? I didn't think so. 8/23/2007 2:50:30 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
cause there are only blacks in prison
and 100% of them love dogfighting 8/23/2007 2:55:34 AM |
YOMAMA Suspended 6218 Posts user info edit post |
^ what's your point? 8/23/2007 8:01:00 AM |
GraniteBalls Aging fast 12262 Posts user info edit post |
Lets move on to bigger and better things.
http://blogs.foxsports.com/mr_ghost/2006/1/5/Vince_Young_vs_Michael_Vick 8/23/2007 9:08:35 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah its a big wonder that somone partaking in illegal activities didnt come forth before now to tell on someone else doing illegal activities. LOL
Its the same as that woman going to the police to tell them she got sold fake crack. Surprise she gets arrested... that might have something to do with someone not coming forth sooner. Esp when it was Vick that was funding the operation. 8/23/2007 9:12:18 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.vickdogchewtoy.com/ 8/23/2007 10:41:36 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If anything, he will have a crew protecting him." |
celebrity status makes you a target8/23/2007 11:10:27 AM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Bring back the XFL, make Vick the star player 8/23/2007 11:19:38 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what's your point?" |
that not everybody in prison likes dogfighting and will welcome vick as some kind of hero?]8/23/2007 11:28:25 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
lol, now hes trying to say he didnt gamble with dog fighting and didnt kill any dogs(via sportscenter) 8/24/2007 1:03:59 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah its a big wonder that somone partaking in illegal activities didnt come forth before now to tell on someone else doing illegal activities. LOL
Its the same as that woman going to the police to tell them she got sold fake crack. Surprise she gets arrested... that might have something to do with someone not coming forth sooner. Esp when it was Vick that was funding the operation." |
Do you understand how much money an "anonymous" informant with a picture of Vick at a fog fight would have fetched? Not to mention atleast some of these thugs got busted for other shit and could have leaked Vicks name to the police. Yet, for 6 YEARS, not a hint of this ever surfaced to the main stream media. You do realize how impossible this is dont you?8/24/2007 2:12:21 AM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
^^http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2989037
You are correct sir. 8/24/2007 6:57:24 AM |
jccraft1 Veteran 387 Posts user info edit post |
what a shithead this guy is...at first I was thinking it would be ok for him to come back to the NFL after he serves his sentence, apologizes nationally, and then becomes a pet advocate....but this guy can't even admit to his crimes. He deserves to rot in jail and never play again. I hope that judge hands him 5 years and then opens up the circus for every single NAACP leader to come out and say how prejudice this is...cocksuckers
[Edited on August 24, 2007 at 8:55 AM. Reason : sp] 8/24/2007 8:53:38 AM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't ray lewis kill somebody? 8/24/2007 9:14:43 AM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If someone had videos or pictures of this, they would have sold them by now. Because they haven't, I doubt any exist, which is very very odd." |
This was an ILLEGAL enterprise. No one involved would just up and pull out their Polaroid to unless it was an undercover fed that could hide it. If you're going to do a drug deal you're not going to bring a camera to take pictures for memorium's sake.
Quote : | "Do you understand how much money an "anonymous" informant with a picture of Vick at a fog fight would have fetched? Not to mention atleast some of these thugs got busted for other shit and could have leaked Vicks name to the police. Yet, for 6 YEARS, not a hint of this ever surfaced to the main stream media. You do realize how impossible this is dont you?" |
You are starting to remind me of all these wrestling fans after Benoit offed his wife and kid. They could not accept that a person they loved watching compete was capable of doing such things. So they searched for any little reason and latched onto it so they could to justify to themselves that he did not do it. Just stop.
Quote : | "lol, now hes trying to say he didnt gamble with dog fighting and didnt kill any dogs(via sportscenter)" |
I think the feds are going to take the deal that he was part of a conspiracy. The only ones that would know that he killed dogs would be his buddies, and that would become a "he said, they said". I think Vick thinks that if he just says he was in a conspiracy and did not kill any dogs or gamble, he will play in the NFL again.
[Edited on August 24, 2007 at 9:53 AM. Reason : /]8/24/2007 9:42:22 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you understand how much money an "anonymous" informant with a picture of Vick at a fog fight would have fetched?" |
big money
course a year ago it wouldnt fetch shit because this story was nonexistant
i mean nude pictures of (insert actresses name) werent worth shit before anybody knew who (insert actresses name) was8/24/2007 10:36:47 AM |
Weeeees All American 23730 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.dailypress.com/media/acrobat/2007-08/32091278.pdf 8/24/2007 1:50:20 PM |
SteveO All American 728 Posts user info edit post |
^espn sucks.....he clearly admits to everything in the plea agreement...whats with the huge story yesterday about how he is not admitting to gambling or killing actual dogs.... 8/24/2007 2:30:08 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
suspended indefinitely 8/24/2007 6:19:38 PM |
RoyalFlush Suspended 798 Posts user info edit post |
Perhaps Vick snitched on DMX?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070824/us_nm/crime_usa_dmx_dc 8/24/2007 7:55:37 PM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
I could really care less either way about Vick, but this is ridiculous. Who really cares about a few stupid dogs anyway? I have 2 dogs, and it would really bother me if something happened to them, but those are MY dogs. And yes, there is a difference. These dogs are just animals whose genetic tendancy is to fight. Is it wrong to encourage that behavior and watch "innocent" animals die? Yes. Are there drunk drivers, drug addicts, rapists, pedophiles, and murderers out there who do things that are about 1000 times worse? Yes. I would be willing to bet that 25% of proffessional atheletes have committed crimes that are "worse" than Vicks. I dunno.... I am certainly not condoning his actions, it's just annoying to see just how much media attention it is getting when there are other things going on that are much worse. 8/26/2007 6:08:29 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
If anyone doesnt see a difference from this and hunting or any other sport, you are either not informed or are just not bright.
HBO did a good story on it, and it will make you PISSED to see what they do to get these dogs "ready". One guy had his dog stolen, they broke his dogs hip so it couldnt fight back, and tossed in to the pit bulls, so they "can learn how to kill". The guy got his dog back and sewed him up, however he cannot use his back leg. Another owner wasnt as lucky, as his dogs mouth was taped shut, and he was killed by the pit bulls.
These people are sick. Just because something is your property it does not give you the right to abuse it.
The reason this is gettign the attention is bc this is a celeb doing something awful that no one has done before. If he got busted for drugs, it would be a big deal...but not to this magnitude.
If anyone thinks he was setup.. grow the fuck up. He did this to himself, HE is the moron and piece of shit for doing this. He will pay for his stupidity. However, he shows no signs of even acknowleging he fucked up, and owning up to this. He still continues to BS everyone around. Now its I provided the money to bet, but I never personally bet. My ass. Hey mike, not everyone is as stupid as you and your boyz. 8/26/2007 6:28:52 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
convicted felon now 8/27/2007 11:00:42 AM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Bottom line, he broke the law. Even with all the money, and all the fame, he decided to keep doing something he knew was illegal and he got caught doing it. He fucked up, plain and simple.
With that said, it's almost comical that Vick could have been caught doing almost anything else and gotten away with it. Drugs, stealing, rape, and murder. All things numerous athletes less famous than Vick have been caught doing in this country, and it hardly caused a hitch in their careers. You just don't fuck with pets in this country. You can shoot a deer, mount its head over your mantle, and you're celebrated for it. You kill a dog, and you're treated like the lowest form of scum on the earth. 8/27/2007 11:12:53 AM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
I can't wait for this shit to be over with. 8/27/2007 11:14:38 AM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
Goodbye Vick, see you in 2010 (if any team sign you at all) 8/27/2007 11:29:16 AM |
steviewonder All American 6194 Posts user info edit post |
we have this neighbor who lives a few houses down from us here in rr, and the 2 or 3 times a year he tries to talk to us he is always braggin about how him and his boys killed a guy a few years ago or about how he hunts with elliot sadler. last year he was in our yard wastin our time and he brought his fucking pit bull over and talked about how he gets 10 grand for each one he breeds, because he goes up and fights then with mike vicks dogs in virginia. i never believed a word of his bullshit, but i choked when i first heard about this case. 8/27/2007 11:42:49 AM |
AxlBonBach All American 45550 Posts user info edit post |
might wanna call the fbi due 8/27/2007 11:45:53 AM |