If we land Wall... snowball effect happens... all of a sudden Sidney is seen as a top talent recruiter in succeeding years... if we can build our brand for talent like that then we can start to compete with UNC sooner rather than later!

8/14/2008 12:36:39 AM

yarly.

8/14/2008 12:42:00 AM

^^Posts like that will make you kill yourself with anger if you start to buy into that kind of hype.

We are NC State. Shit will happen.

8/14/2008 12:53:49 AM

just offering a positive scenario that could arise for the pro-Wall folks on here

Even with Wall - our class wouldnt be as talented at UNCs, though....

8/14/2008 8:58:47 AM

^bullshit. We're still going after Favors. We're not close to done with this class.

8/14/2008 9:22:13 AM

well, from what i have heard ... we are really in the mix with Favors and Noel Johnson. Getting LO Brown was the key piece to the puzzle.

there is reasons we are going to have a big class but i was asked not to post b/c of speculation at this point and i dont want to get TWW in trouble for posting premium PP information...

i just checked the recruiting thread on the regular board and some of the stuff has leaked so here are some of the things being talked about:

Johnny will more than likely never see the floor from his injury but a lot of us were getting that feeling.

A lot of people close the program feel that Costner will not be back after this season either. Looks like he will be graduating on time and he has been here 4 years already with the red shirt.

we are still recruiting these kids hard: Favors, Dewitt, Adams, and Johnson.

Oh and Spurlock has committed to UVA



[Edited on August 14, 2008 at 9:43 AM. Reason : [Edited on August 14, 2008 at 9:40 AM. Reason : sdf]]

8/14/2008 9:39:44 AM

sorry for the double post but:

http://news14.com/Default.aspx?ArID=598299

Quote :

"RALEIGH -- Marques Johnson is on the move again. North Carolina State said Wednesday that the point guard is leaving the program and the school. Johnson has not said where he plans to transfer. Johnson played only part of one season with the Wolfpack after transferring from Tennessee. After sitting out the first semester of last season, he started six games at point guard and averaged 2.0 points and 1.2 assists in 21 outings. In an interview with News 14 Carolina Wednesday, coach Sidney Lowe called Johnson's departure a "win-win." --- [i really dont like the way that was worded, but in truth...it is] "When one of your players leaves, it's a tough situation," Lowe said. "Marques felt that he had better opportunities somewhere else and he's going to go take advantage of that.""

8/14/2008 9:51:30 AM

the win-win thing is true tho, Johnson gets to play and we get a possible player that can contribute on the floor more

8/14/2008 10:55:39 AM

Quote :

"[i really dont like the way that was worded, but in truth...it is]"

yeah, i said that too

8/14/2008 11:08:45 AM

OMG LOWE IS CAUSING ALL OUR PLAYERS TO TRANSFER

8/14/2008 11:22:06 AM

john bunting!

8/14/2008 11:23:56 AM

Quote :

"but i was asked not to post"

are you serious?

nothing you posted hasnt been known for over a week, none of this stuff 'leaked' at all, it was common knowledge, even the Johnson transfer.

8/14/2008 11:29:16 AM

oh shit, gunzz called out in sports talk yet again.

8/14/2008 11:36:51 AM

no, some of the other stuff i know about one of our players being academically ineligible to play this year





[Edited on August 14, 2008 at 1:00 PM. Reason : but im not naming names.]

[Edited on August 14, 2008 at 1:01 PM. Reason : not some ... one]

8/14/2008 12:59:14 PM

fixed

[Edited on August 14, 2008 at 1:01 PM. Reason : ]

8/14/2008 1:00:31 PM

yes, i fixed it

8/14/2008 1:00:54 PM

I hope Johnson actually makes a concerted effort in choosing his next school. Already made the wrong decision twice

8/14/2008 1:11:56 PM

Now if we can get this guy to transfer we would be in great shape.

8/14/2008 1:14:40 PM

well, if we were getting blown out, he'd at least make us laugh so we don't feel so bad

8/14/2008 1:24:21 PM

Joe Ovies and Adam Gold did an interview with Dave Telep (of Scout.com) about NC State recruiting, he makes some interesting points:
http://www.850thebuzz.com/blog/?p=4842

8/14/2008 2:14:53 PM

Sounds like we're a long shot for both Favors and Wall. Fairly long.

Time to start warming up on Noel Johnson and Garrius Adams, etc.

Just saw that Tristan Spurlock committed to UVA.

8/14/2008 2:41:14 PM

Quote :

"Sounds like we're a long shot for both Favors and Wall. Fairly long. "

Why would you say that? I haven't heard anything that would suggest that except for the Wall/Baylor/Clifton crap, but that still may not be done with.

8/14/2008 2:50:29 PM

^You didn't listen to that interview then. We may not be at the top of their lists of schools but we all know that that is often misleading and is not necessarily a good indicator of where they end up going. The thing to take away from that interview is that we may not be the leader for either, but we are certainly not out of the running.

8/14/2008 2:54:47 PM

and yes everyone knows that guy might have some academic trouble

all this stuff is months old, monthssss old, we knew it before practice for this upcomin trip even was scheduled

8/14/2008 3:25:34 PM

well excuse me mr. fucking recruiting guru
are you the super insider...why dont you drop some insider shit then playa

not everyone knew this

if they did...i wouldnt have gotten so many pms



[Edited on August 14, 2008 at 3:29 PM. Reason : n/m thats mean...]

8/14/2008 3:28:21 PM

^ def not "common knowledge" as far as I am concerned.

Easy rule of thumb... it's if not all over the free forums it is not fair game. Sure someone will toss it in there sooner or later, but not right away.

8/14/2008 3:41:24 PM

The only part of that i didn't know was someone being in academic trouble.

We have a better shot with Favors than most believe, and the longer the Wall recruitment goes on, the more it seems like we will land him. I'd say that if Favors leaves Georgia he probably ends up at State. I'd also say the odds are probably in GT's favor right now. If we got Noel Johnson there are rumors that we'd become the favorites for Favors.

All of that was leaked on PP's free board.

8/14/2008 4:58:53 PM

I don't see why you can't post PP premium info on here, as long as they don't know who you are over there. Just use a different username.

8/14/2008 5:30:12 PM

^i think the owners on here have gotten emails from packpride threatening legal action because premium info was posted here

8/14/2008 5:33:08 PM

^it's not like the owners are ever on the site any more

8/14/2008 5:37:46 PM

lol true

i don't know if they could get sued if anyone posted and of their random insider info because it can't be proven where anyone go the info from, but they def. could for posting word-for-word premium articles

8/14/2008 5:52:00 PM

Explain to me how you can get sued over "secrets".

8/15/2008 1:59:07 AM

i mean...you can sue someone over anything, doesn't mean you will win, which they wouldn't in that case

i was just talking about their articles

8/15/2008 2:45:27 AM

so what schools are in Favor's list of 10?

8/15/2008 1:35:22 PM

as far as I know there are only 3 schools he's seriously looking at: Georgia Tech, Georgia, and us in that order

8/15/2008 1:42:37 PM

who would want to play basketball at Georgia?

i guess if you wanted to go to a school with easy exams made by the coach, that's a perk

8/15/2008 1:48:23 PM

Athens is a pretty cool college town, but you're right that it is a shitty basketball program...them winning the SEC tourney was obviously a fluke.

8/15/2008 2:17:23 PM

http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Initial-Scouting-Reports,-High-School-Class-of-2009--11-150-Recruits--2974/

draftexpress on richard howell:

Quote :

" Richard Howell (#74 Scout, #59 Rivals, #60 ESPN) definitely caught our eye as someone who may be a bit of a sleeper relative to where he’s ranked. He’s a slightly undersized big man with a great frame and excellent strength for a player his age, but he brings a very high skill level to the table on top of that. Howell likes to play facing the basket, where he can put the ball on the floor with a spin move into the paint, or knock down a flat-footed and slow-developing 3-pointer with very nice consistency. He also has good hands and a nice feel for playing inside, and showed off a solid drop-step move inside in addition to a pretty turnaround jump-shot. Howell is just an average athlete and doesn’t seem to play all that much defense at this stage, but he looks like a really nice prospect for Sidney Lowe at N.C. State, especially in that system. "

also their thoughts on wall & favors:
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Initial-Scouting-Reports,-High-School-Class-of-2009--Top-10-recruits--2972/

[Edited on August 15, 2008 at 7:18 PM. Reason : wall & favors]

8/15/2008 6:55:40 PM

was anybody supposed to be taking a visit today?

I saw a guy that was probably 6'6"/6'7" walking into Case dining hall with a white guy wearing an ncsu polo and a black guy wearing dress shirt/pants

didn't get a good look at them though because they were walking inside when I saw them

8/18/2008 7:35:05 PM

What color was he? Commitment Scott Wood is 6-6. Noel Johnson is around 6-7. Garrius Adams is 6-5.

Wood


Johnson


Adams

8/18/2008 7:42:47 PM

If you check out Noel Johnson's list on Rivals, it lists us as High Interest along with USC and UCLA. Miami and Wake Forest are listed at medium interest. The thing that seemed odd to me was that Louisville wasn't anywhere on there, b/c he was high on them at one point. Scout continues to not have us on his list, but they are notorious for not keeping those lists very up to date.

http://ncstate.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=1912
http://ncstate.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=53707


I think if we landed Johnson we would definitely land Favors. I mean he'd get to play with Brown, Howell, and his AAU teammate in Johnson. We'd have a class that could be considered the No. 1 in the nation, and easily beat out the Heels class, especially if Howell and Wood move up like many believe they will due to their performances over the summer. A next gen Fab 5, but we'd have to come up with our own name for them. Perhaps the 5 Pack or just simply Da Pack. I doubt Johnson would end up being a 1-and-done. He'd probably be here at least two years, maybe three. I think it's pretty evident that Sid maybe moving us toward a three guard lineup. Jimmy V loved guard oriented lineups. A backcourt of Lowe, Whittenburg, and Gannon worked out pretty well for us in the final 44 seconds of the 1983 season.

8/18/2008 9:12:29 PM

if i hear another thing about 1983 i will light myself on fire and jump on the window into traffic


which means that i am probably going to do just that in no more than 5 minutes

8/18/2008 9:26:40 PM

You know Hooters was founded in 1983. Twas a great year indeed.

8/18/2008 9:29:15 PM

^^ lol, i'm w/ you.

8/19/2008 9:03:12 AM

Quote :

"What color was he? Commitment Scott Wood is 6-6. Noel Johnson is around 6-7. Garrius Adams is 6-5."

he was darker skinned

could have been Adams, but I couldn't see his face very good so I can't say for sure

8/19/2008 9:06:45 AM

Let's hope it was Noel. Apparently there's a rumor that Sid just visited with Wall's mom....or something like that...just rumblings about catching up ground, etc. Probably nothing to take from it yet..

8/19/2008 9:57:24 AM

awww shoot ,now im all excited.... I wonder what roles Javi and DeGand would play if we landed two of the aforementioned three young guards?

[Edited on August 19, 2008 at 11:03 AM. Reason : ed;alkj]

8/19/2008 11:03:05 AM

^
They would be backups, where they belong.

8/19/2008 11:04:55 AM

http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=839823

Rivals release their new rankings. Scott Wood got bumped from 150 to 126 and remains a three star player. You have to break into the Top 100 to get 4* status. I'm glad he moved up, but a lot of people thought he'd break into the Top 100 with the way he performed this summer.

They have Lorenzo Brown as #43 overall and the #7 PG one behind GT commit Mfon Udofia (how do you even pronounce Mfon anyway?). Based on the video I've seen I don't agree with that one bit. Udofia is good, but I think Brown is clearly the better overall player.

Richard Howell is listed as the #51 overall and the #15 PF. He was previously the #59 player overall and the #18 PF.

Garrius Adams broke into the Top 150. He is listed as #128 overall and the #27 SF.

Noel Johnson moved down a couple of spots. He was #36 overall and the #4 SF, but is now listed as #38 overall and the #7 SF.

I really like how they broke down the class. It's pretty evident why the ACC is usually the top conference, and there are still some uncommitted players that will likely end up at ACC schools.


BY THE NUMBERS

The Rivals150 by position:
Power forward 41
Shooting guard 34
Small forward 31
Point guard 24
Center 20

Where they are going:
ACC 17
Big East 16
Big Ten 15
Big 12 14
Pac-10 10
SEC 9
CUSA 2
MW/MAC/WCC/WAC 1 each

Where they are from:
California 16
Georgia 12
Ill., Texas 8 each
N.C., Va. 7 each
Maryland, Minn. 5 each
Pa., Ind., Nev., Wash 4 each

8/19/2008 8:44:00 PM

who have we landed so far?

8/20/2008 11:22:48 AM