We won!

http://tinyurl.com/yfod4qy

11/5/2009 8:41:34 AM

She's right. They did win. . . more congressional seats for the majority.

11/5/2009 9:03:33 AM

the question is not so much about gaining one or two single congressional seats, the question is how much the election has impacted the voting trends of the blue dogs.

but hey, sticking your head in the sand is always a winning strategy, so carry on.

11/5/2009 9:42:02 AM

Haha you stupid fucking conservatives have no idea how happy you should be that the democrats are the way they are.

11/5/2009 9:47:59 AM

Sure, the voting trends as it pertains to their state governor. Want to talk about voting trends? How about the GOP imploding in New York thus coughing up a district they've held since the Civil War.

[Edited on November 5, 2009 at 9:50 AM. Reason : .]

11/5/2009 9:49:40 AM

^
That's a problem that can be fixed with primaries. If the GOP had supported the conservative candidate all from the start instead of some RINO, the democrat would've been trounced.

You're whistling past the 2010 democrat grave-yard my friend.

11/5/2009 10:28:03 AM

^^ i don't get the emphasis the media in general is putting on the governors. It's really bizarre.

NC has had a democratic governor for years, but we usually vote republican for the presidential election. A state's governors isn't that important when it comes to the presidency.

[Edited on November 5, 2009 at 10:29 AM. Reason : ]

11/5/2009 10:29:29 AM

BUT BUT BUT THE TREND!!!1

11/5/2009 10:30:23 AM

^^^ If you're alleging that from last november to this nov the country went from loving the democrats to hating the democrats, then what makes you think the country can't go back the other way by next novemeber?

And there was plenty more voting going on than 2 governors races, that don't really signal any overall momentum for the republicans.

The Daily Show had a good segement last night that reflected my thoughts... the media seems to be pushing this narrative to have something to talk about "whether it's true or not" (what a commentator on CNN said).

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-november-4-2009/11-4-09-in--60-seconds

11/5/2009 10:40:30 AM

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"Sure, the voting trends as it pertains to their state governor. Want to talk about voting trends? How about the GOP imploding in New York thus coughing up a district they've held since the Civil War. "

Again, I'm talking about the blue-dog LEGISLATORS... Nancy may have gained 2 votes and lost 30. Who knows? Maybe not, but this election does not portend 2010 - only possibly the healthcare vote.

[Edited on November 5, 2009 at 11:23 AM. Reason : dumbass]

11/5/2009 11:22:42 AM

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"That's a problem that can be fixed with primaries. If the GOP had supported the conservative candidate all from the start instead of some RINO, the democrat would've been trounced."

Bwahahaha. You're falling into our trap.

Nate Silver, before the election:

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"The best-case scenario for the Democrats would seem to be a very narrow Owens win, which would leave conservatives feeling plenty empowered (and with plenty of people -- notably Scozzafava -- to blame) but would still give Democrats the seat in the Congress and leave them feeling less worried about the upside potential of conservative populism."

11/5/2009 12:06:41 PM

Fox's Martha MacCallum reported that:

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"“Robert Gibbs said, well, [Obama} was actually watching, you know, the HBO special about his year-long campaign and how it all went.”"

Oops!

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"Gibbs: One thing I should contextualize – the President obviously got updates about the election last night. He did not watch – as I told some of you – did not watch election returns. I wouldn’t read a ton into that since he didn’t actually watch election returns when he was running. If you did watch the movie on HBO – we called him and told him he won Iowa. He did not watch election returns."

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kyle-drennen/2009/11/04/fox-news-misreported-robert-gibbs-press-gaggle-comments

11/5/2009 12:17:45 PM

how is that "misreported?" Did he, or did he not watch the HBO special instead of the election returns? Both of those quotes seem to say he did

11/5/2009 12:27:49 PM

1. No, they don't.

"[Obama} was actually watching, you know, the HBO special"

v.

"If you did watch the movie on HBO"

READING IS HARD


2. I forgot to mention that she was reporting that Obama was watching his documentary on election night, 2009

[Edited on November 5, 2009 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ]

11/5/2009 12:36:00 PM

ahhh, misread. so, what's the big deal? OMG, FOX NEWS SAID THAT OBAMA WATCHED A DIFFERENT TV SHOW THAN HE DID!!! OMFG KILL THEM ALL!!!!

11/5/2009 12:38:22 PM

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"KILL THEM ALL!!!!"

You said it, brother.

11/5/2009 1:53:46 PM

For Thrillers, Glenn Beck Is Becoming New Oprah
November 4, 2009

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"Virtually every novelist in America fantasizes about being picked to appear on Oprah Winfrey's talk show. But now an increasing number of writers have discovered a new champion: Glenn Beck, the outspoken media darling of populist conservatism On his radio show and cable television programs, first on CNN Headline News and now on the Fox News Channel, Mr. Beck has enthusiastically endorsed dozens of novelists, a majority of them writing in the thriller genre. Mr. Beck, who now attracts 9 million weekly listeners on radio and 2.7 million daily viewers on television, often selects authors whose plots or characters reflect political stances that mirror his own. But he also promotes the work of authors who may disagree with many of his views. 'He's our Oprah,' said Brad Thor, a writer of political thrillers who has appeared on Mr. Beck's radio and television programs several times. 'God love him, we're very fortunate.' At a time when the book industry is struggling to maintain, much less increase, sales, publishers and authors say an appearance on Mr. Beck's television or radio programs helps attract new readers. After James Rollins, the author of 'The Doomsday Key,' a thriller about a group of Defense Department scientists trying to solve an ancient mystery, appeared this past summer on Mr. Beck's radio program and then his television show — on which Mr. Beck promised viewers 'it will keep you on the edge of your seat' — Mr. Rollins met several people at a book signing who told him they had bought the book based on that recommendation, he said. According to Seale Ballenger, a publicist for William Morrow, an imprint of HarperCollins that released 'The Doomsday Key,' the novel remained in the Top 10 of the New York Times hardcover fiction best-seller list longer than typical for its type. 'It was totally driven by Glenn Beck,' Mr. Ballenger said. In the past five years Mr. Beck, who was a best-selling novelist with 'A Christmas Sweater' last year, has interviewed about 40 thriller writers, including David Baldacci, Nelson DeMille and James Patterson, on his radio program, his cable television shows or both."

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"'I don't think there's anybody else on TV that is either that eager or open to booking novelists,' said David Brown, deputy director for publicity at Atria, an imprint of Simon & Schuster that publishes Mr. Thor and Vince Flynn, another thriller writer who has appeared frequently on Mr. Beck's programs."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/05/books/05beck.html

[Edited on November 5, 2009 at 2:35 PM. Reason : FYI.]

11/5/2009 2:33:22 PM

he's the new oprah because he pushes books on tv??

11/5/2009 5:41:07 PM

shitastic books, at that.

11/5/2009 5:47:08 PM

hooksaw: what are you general thoughts on Glenn Beck?

11/5/2009 6:46:21 PM

I still can't figure out when beck is on... Tried watching him last week when the prez was dissing him but all I saw was oreilly, sustren, and hannity... Is he a weekend only show

11/5/2009 7:11:19 PM

5pm

11/5/2009 7:15:00 PM

You can also catching him at 2am if you're up. But, sadly, he's on the same time Rachel Maddow so I only flip over to see what he is ranting about on his little blackboard during commercial breaks. As forgettable as it was, Faux News attempted a counter to the Daily Show with their own conservative comedy show. Even though it failed miserably it seems they succeeded in bringing the funny through crazy with Beck.

11/5/2009 7:27:13 PM

5?? WTF - who cares about a show at 5pm... That would be like complaining about Maury. I think it says something about his credibility that he's just a daytime talkshow

11/5/2009 8:35:56 PM

I just report when that douchebag is on...

11/5/2009 8:37:22 PM

Glenn Beck is absolutely an open, festering sore, who, arguably, ought to be shot to quell his influence on the undereducated, alarmist, xenophobes in the United States.

but I can't say I don't tune in when I catch him on TV.

11/5/2009 9:02:34 PM

who in the hell is even home from work in time to watch him???


probably only lazy unemployed living-on-the-dole liberals, which would explain why they're the only ones talking about him

[Edited on November 5, 2009 at 9:40 PM. Reason : s]

11/5/2009 9:39:47 PM

yes! because every redneck blow-hard with a case of Busch Light in Mississippi is employed!

[Edited on November 5, 2009 at 9:54 PM. Reason : my god.]

11/5/2009 9:53:59 PM

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"hooksaw: what are you general thoughts on Glenn Beck?"

WillemJoel

Read the thread--I have no intention of rehashing this.

[Edited on November 6, 2009 at 12:40 AM. Reason : .]

11/6/2009 12:40:24 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJOGZyDEMbs

11/6/2009 12:43:52 AM

So I just added a high school friend on facebook, she lists bill'o and beck as her favorite tv shows. I mentioned that I didn't think we had similar tastes in television, and she replies with "That's cool, I figured. Many young Americans have that same attitude because of what's been fed to them."

How do I respond to this?

11/6/2009 12:36:22 PM

Teabag her?

11/6/2009 12:38:14 PM

Perhaps...

"Some people eat dog food, but i've always preferred steak myself"

?

11/6/2009 12:39:39 PM

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"How do I respond to this?"

silently defriend her and forget about it. it's not even worth the effort.

11/6/2009 12:46:02 PM

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-5-2009/the-11-3-project

PITCH

FUCKING

PERFECT

11/6/2009 1:01:35 PM

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"who in the hell is even home from work in time to watch him???"

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"undereducated, alarmist, xenophobes in the United States"

11/6/2009 1:04:38 PM

Yeah, Rush's 12:00 timeslot and Beck's 5:00 timeslot cause me to question how hard-working their listeners are.

I read somewhere the that average Rush listener is like >60 years old, iirc. That might account for most of it.

11/6/2009 1:13:26 PM

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"I read somewhere the that average Rush listener is like >60 years old, iirc."

my dad.

>60

lost his job due to corporate shenanigans

couldnt get another job due to age discrimination

lost ~1/3 his retirement savings due to Wall Street stock market shenanigans.

now collects reduced social security and sits at home all day in his forced retirement watching Fox News and listening to angry conservatives on AM radio so he can justify his hate for and tax-and-spend liberals and other assorted Obama-Socialists who he believes are ruining the country.

it makes my stomach hurt to think about it.

11/6/2009 1:47:18 PM

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"http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-5-2009/the-11-3-project PITCH FUCKING PERFECT"

haha wow, i missed that episode.

11/6/2009 2:27:14 PM

hahaha that was pretty Fing funny

11/6/2009 8:25:07 PM

Oh wow. Eating or drinking is not advised while watching that as they are very likely to become projectiles!

11/6/2009 8:42:07 PM

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"So I just added a high school friend on facebook, she lists bill'o and beck as her favorite tv shows. I mentioned that I didn't think we had similar tastes in television, and she replies with "That's cool, I figured. Many young Americans have that same attitude because of what's been fed to them." How do I respond to this?"

so you antagonized her and she got defensive? man, she's a jerk! DEFRIEND HER BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE

11/6/2009 8:47:26 PM

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"http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-november-5-2009/the-11-3-project"

that was incredible

11/6/2009 11:52:45 PM

hooksaw

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"Read the thread--I have no intention of rehashing this."

no way in shit I'm reading any 28-page thread in TSB, much less a Fox News one.

I really don't care too much. A quick PM would've sufficed.

11/7/2009 11:36:15 PM

^ Well, damn. Since you done gone and put the guilt trip on me, I went back 16 pages and found it for you:

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"I'm not a big Beck fan--too hyper and too goofy and too much with the conspiracy theories for me--BUT. . . Glenn Beck Tops Two Best Seller Lists; Hits Trifecta of NY Times Lists http://tinyurl.com/nyh9pb . . .somebody likes him. Let me guess, stupid people, right?"

hooksaw

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I do, however, think that Beck often raises important issues that need to be investigated and that other media fail to pursue or even notice. And I'll add this from page 22 for further illumination:

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"Special Report--specifically the segment known as 'The Grapevine'--is where I get a lot of my info. And from frequent panelist Charles Krauthammer."

hooksaw

message_topic.aspx?topic=540676&page=22

11/8/2009 6:28:33 AM

I don't like Beck or Limbaugh or O'Reilly. They're just a bunch of loud-mouth buffoons who have nothing remotely relevent to add to the conversation.

BUT THEIR RATINGS ARE THROUGH THE ROOF, SO EAT THAT, YOU LIBTARD FUCKS!

11/8/2009 8:33:59 AM

to me how are Limbaugh, Beck, or O'Reilly any different from Olbermann, Matthews, or Maher. All of them have politcal opinion shows its just the latter are leftists while the former sway right.

11/8/2009 9:22:24 AM

yes, just a difference of views. No difference in their demeanor or how they treat their guests, the type of stories they choose to cover, the threshold of evidence they require to report a story, the unfounded accusations they make, their unstated insinuations, etc. All exactly the same...

11/8/2009 11:27:42 AM

^ you take things way too seriously. they're all entertainers first and foremost.

also, perhaps you feel that the entertainers on your side are less offensive, because they offend your personal sensibilities less.... not because they actually are.

[Edited on November 8, 2009 at 11:37 AM. Reason : s]

11/8/2009 11:37:05 AM

^^^I certainly buy that, except that Bill Maher is motherfucking HILARIOUS.

I absolutely hate Keith Olbermann, and I have never even found him funny.

11/8/2009 1:25:52 PM