Most SEC QBs are shit

I would take Renner over most SEC QBs

10/31/2011 11:35:17 AM

Most SEC teams win in spite of their quarterbacks. You put Jones, Barkley, or Luck on LSU or Bama, no one comes within three touchdowns of them all year.

10/31/2011 12:07:36 PM

The SEC hasn't had a Heisman winning QB in forever. They should be more like ACC QBs.

[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 1:46 PM. Reason : Renner would get stomped in the SEC.]

10/31/2011 1:46:07 PM

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"The SEC hasn't had a Heisman winning QB in forever."

^ for real?

[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 2:37 PM. Reason : ]

10/31/2011 2:36:54 PM

i for one assumed sarcasm

10/31/2011 2:38:56 PM

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"Renner would get stomped in the SEC"

Almost all QBs get stomped in the SEC

That's the point

10/31/2011 2:39:49 PM

Probably, but it's hard to see sarcasm when it's agreeing with the number of posts above it.

10/31/2011 2:40:22 PM

^^ but if you said you would "take Renner over" them, which implies some fantasy world where you get to pick the best QB, and not "which QB is better because they have weaker defenses to go against", then that (^^) makes no sense.

It would be like saying "I would take Timmy Chang vs. the WAC over any NFL QB because they face harder competition"

[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 6:22 PM. Reason : d]

10/31/2011 6:20:54 PM

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"but if you said you would "take Renner over" them, which implies some fantasy world where you get to pick the best QB, and not "which QB is better because they have weaker defenses to go against""

No, it means in an absolute sense, I think Renner is a better QB than at least 50% of the current starting QBs in the Southeastern Conference. It has nothing to do with numbers or burritos or whatever you mean by fantasy world.

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"It would be like saying "I would take Timmy Chang vs. the WAC over any NFL QB because they face harder competition""

Not at all what I was saying

[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 6:25 PM. Reason : ]

10/31/2011 6:23:59 PM

Good old ernie, cant have a discussion like an adult. I dont remember mentioning burritos anywhere, but feel free to continue your habit of trying to distract people from your weak point.

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"Almost all QBs get stomped in the SEC That's the point "

meaning that QBs in the SEC arent as good because they play against good defenses so therefore Renner is "better" because hes not in the SEC. Sure his stats are better, but that doesnt mean hes better.

And for the record I actually think he is a really good QB, but its not because he happens to play against weaker defenses

10/31/2011 6:26:50 PM

Renner would get stomped too. They ALL get stomped. Where did I say Renner wouldn't?

I also didn't mention his numbers or anyone else's numbers. He's a better quarterback than most guys in the SEC. He would improve most SEC offenses if he were the quarterback. Is that clear?

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"meaning that QBs in the SEC arent as good because they play against good defenses so therefore Renner is "better" because hes not in the SEC."

Maybe my argument wasn't crystal clear, but I wasn't proposing that he was better because he plays against weaker defenses. You drew an inaccurate conclusion, and I'm just trying to clarify that.

[Edited on October 31, 2011 at 6:29 PM. Reason : Burritos were implied, I thought.]

10/31/2011 6:29:00 PM

so you are saying he would be slightly better, but still suck (like other SEC QBs) ?

10/31/2011 6:30:54 PM

I think he would be better than most current SEC QBs.

10/31/2011 6:32:54 PM

should see some fun stuff this week.

10/31/2011 7:14:46 PM

I appreciate Jaybee1200, but I can't comprehend how he doesn't get the point Ernie is making.

10/31/2011 8:06:22 PM

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"It would be like saying "I would take Timmy Chang vs. the WAC over any NFL QB because they face harder competition""

Racist

10/31/2011 8:22:39 PM

I'm here for the burritos

10/31/2011 8:27:34 PM

Remind me to mention this discussion next time Jaybee pulls out the "motherfuckers would argue with Jaybee about the sky being blue" card

10/31/2011 8:45:39 PM

lol at this thread on IC about Warren's recruitment
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1410&t=8190999

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"Funny how you made your decision to announce the same day Brice announced. Truthfully, T.J., the option was there for you, buddy. Brice took it and you took too long. Roy closed down recruiting and left you with no option but to choose between State and Georgetown."

11/2/2011 12:36:08 PM

Here's what TJ has to say to that

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"Warren said he received a scholarship offer from the Tar Heels but said they wanted him to play power forward. His preference is to play on the wing at small forward. Last Wednesday, UNC added 6-9 forward Brice Johnson, the 25th-ranked player in the class, instead. Warren said UNC was recruiting him with his Brewster Academy teammate Mitch McGary, a 6-10 power forward who Telep ranks as the second-best player in the class. “They wanted us to come together,” Warren said. “They would have taken me and Mitch, but we felt like that wasn’t the spot for us.”"

11/2/2011 12:46:39 PM

^ TJ punking Roy and all of IC, #winning

^^ what kind of petulant little fucks talks shit to a recruit about not signing with them? Every team has disappointed fans, but that's almost like some close personal friend criticism

[Edited on November 2, 2011 at 1:10 PM. Reason : ]

11/2/2011 1:08:12 PM

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"Remind me to mention this discussion next time Jaybee pulls out the "motherfuckers would argue with Jaybee about the sky being blue" card"

I thought you were saying Renner is better than most SEC QBs but if he had to play in the SEC, he too would would "get stomped in the SEC" and therefore not be as good (stat/performance wise, not talent wise). Or the reverse would be, if some of the shitty to average SEC QBs were in the ACC they would be as good or better than Renner

[Edited on November 2, 2011 at 9:45 PM. Reason : d]

11/2/2011 9:44:28 PM

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"the lack of class by that guy is unbelievable! I mean, really? I thought Withers stirred the pot, without question. But what TOBy just did is really frowned upon in the coaching ranks. It's an un-written rule that you don't publicly drag an opposing coach through the mud and try to hit them below the belt. Those statements just wreak of desperation in an attempt to stay relevant. Really kinda sad coming from a man his age."

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"What Withers said wasn't really a shot at NCST, it was more about him describing UNC as a top-flight academic institution. Is that not the case? Sure, our football players may very well be idiots. It's possible that could be the case with our basketball players as well. Unfortunately for TOBy, there are a lot more than just football and basketball players that attend the flagship University. To go off on a tangent about cheating, paying players, agents etc is just pathetic and sad."

It's hardly a "tangent" when it's completely relevant...

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"TOB is a sad human being. I have a hard time believeing he served in the Marines. He knows how to play to his idiotic fanbase though. "Paying players?" LOL. The truth hurts, TOB. He realized this too. That's why no NC kids want to play for him."

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"Isnt it pretty well known that obrien did a lot of negative recruiting last offseason telling recruits that butch's cancer had come back?"

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"Carolina had its players intensely investigated, including having their private texts and emails searched. The result was a small number of mostly very minor infractions being uncovered."

All from one thread...and I didn't even get through the entire thing.

11/3/2011 2:39:03 PM

Well what do you expect? To the IC crowd Withers was just preaching gospel truth that everyone everywhere should know automatically while TOB was just trying to get in another sick attack against the poor beleaguered kindly folks at UNC.

11/3/2011 2:41:11 PM

I'm sure TOB was telling recruits that Butch's cancer was coming back

After all, he hasn't had any friends or assistant coaches go through anything like that, I'm sure he just jokes around about it to high school kids

11/3/2011 2:42:48 PM

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"If you look at our graduation rates, as opposed to our opponent’s this week,"

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""What Withers said wasn't really a shot at NCST, it was more about him describing UNC as a top-flight academic institution."

11/3/2011 2:44:16 PM

^^yeah that was by far the worst one. Perhaps TOB was "negative recruiting" based off the NCAA investigation. I don't believe for a second (nor have I ever seen it written anywhere) that TOB told recruits the BD's cancer had returned.

[Edited on November 3, 2011 at 2:45 PM. Reason : ]

11/3/2011 2:45:20 PM

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"mostly very minor infractions"

Did they miss the 9 major infractions?

11/3/2011 2:46:52 PM

Minor.... Major... It's all a matter of opinion right?

Sure plagiarism, having a coach on an agent's payroll, tutors writing papers, and players getting money from agents to go to parties might seem major to most people. But I mean, in the grand scheme of the universe these are all minor things.

It's not like they killed anyone, right? So surely nothing MAJOR is going on.

[Edited on November 3, 2011 at 2:58 PM. Reason : am I doing it right, is this a passable IC poster?]

11/3/2011 2:58:31 PM

Fuck Carolina. Just sayin

11/4/2011 1:56:00 PM

^^ what about the track coach?

11/4/2011 8:35:20 PM

Lots of my friends who attend UNC say its well known that they arranged to have Wichard injected with cancerous cells

11/4/2011 9:37:02 PM

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"Those statements just wreak of desperation in an attempt to stay relevant."

You can't make up this kind of stupid...

11/4/2011 10:05:29 PM

man. i hope our defense wrecks the fuck out of renner tomorrow. please come with your A games.


and conversely, this 2ndary of UNC is no FSU. probably the worst 2ndary in the conference. glennon better march us down for 7 on the first drive and pick them apart.

11/4/2011 10:11:09 PM

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"Those statements just wreak of desperation in an attempt to stay relevant."

Must be a Wal-mart fan. Cannot use the correct reek.

[Edited on November 4, 2011 at 10:59 PM. Reason : ;]

11/4/2011 10:58:00 PM

Not gonna lie. I didn't know the correct reek/wreak.

11/4/2011 11:16:07 PM

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"and conversely, this 2ndary of UNC is no FSU. probably the worst 2ndary in the conference. glennon better march us down for 7 on the first drive and pick them apart."

He will if he has time to throw the ball. UNC's front seven is damn good.

11/5/2011 8:55:03 AM

Yeah avoiding Glennon getting killed will be a large determining factor of how today goes.

11/5/2011 9:18:48 AM

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"Hey woofies: I don't care if our Chancellor undermined Withers (throwing him under a bus) by calling the Moo U chancellor this afternoon to apologize for Withers speaking the truth. We all know the truth, if even if our Chancellor wants to kiss your arse. And you can hold onto your little 4-0. We'll hold onto our 63-31-6 and up it one more tick. Go Heels. Fire Thorp... you can't justify this one, Holdie. Seriously. You can't."

Irrelevant all time record is irrelevant.

11/5/2011 9:21:13 AM

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"You'd think with all Whithers talk about academics we'd play smarter."

11/5/2011 1:38:01 PM

^ hahaha, pretty funny actually

11/5/2011 1:39:10 PM

bahahah

11/5/2011 1:47:36 PM

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"If our coaching staff was Japanese at least they'd commit seppuku after the game."

11/5/2011 1:49:02 PM

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"The Bright Side Withers is no longer in the running after getting blanked on the road by the ACC's worst team, we get a new coach and the wuffies are stuck with TOBS for another couple years."

11/5/2011 3:28:25 PM

^I'd be more than happy to see O'Brien go undefeated against THREE Carolina coaches

11/5/2011 3:42:15 PM

This thread is gonna get good tonight.

11/5/2011 3:43:51 PM

Can't wait to see all the complaints of how classless our fans were at the game.

Also this loss totally doesn't count, their starting QB went down with a concussion, that's not their fault.

11/5/2011 3:44:55 PM

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"IS IT BASKETBALL SEASON YET?"

11/5/2011 3:45:09 PM

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"You can tell that TOB only cares about one game a year. Look at how they played against FSU last week. TOB is smart enough to know as long as he beats UNC that idiotic fanbase and administration will keep him around forever, no matter how bad he sucks. As I said earlier in the week, no NCSUx has EVER been fired in a year they have beaten UNC."

11/5/2011 3:51:24 PM

everybody seems to be blaming Thorp

11/5/2011 3:55:31 PM