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Azaka
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So I was messing around on my rogue on the PTR to check out the netherdrake quest line and look at what dropped:



Pisses me off because that is my first BoE epic and it came on my 10th or so kill on the PTR and I can't even do anything with it ><


This is what it looks like when you are doing the netherdrake quest line, as soon as you fly to netherwing ledge you get transformed (but only if you are on an epic flying mount)




When I left netherwing ledge the mount bugged when I tranformed back into undead and I was swimming at epic speeds



So I relogged real quick to see what would happen and





I had so many people asking me how long it took, how hard it was to get, etc. I can't decide if I want to go for the Nether Ray or the Netherdrake, both are awesome.

Brian, IM or PM me the account info, I wouldn't mind trying some BG's in T5 (or just running through outlands raping mobs).

Also, I thought I would like the screenshots being saved in jpg format, but they all look like shit, I'd already logged out before I checked otherwise I would have pasted them into paint or something.

4/18/2007 8:38:56 AM

ThePeter
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imageshack ftl

4/18/2007 8:46:15 AM

davidkunttu
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4/18/2007 9:31:46 AM

smoothcrim
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t5 is such a fucking disappointment. my current blues/epics from kara, quests, ah, and crafting have 5% more crit, 100 more hit, and 50 less AP. no amount of gems and enchants could make up that much hit and crit.

4/18/2007 11:26:42 AM

Novicane
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T6 priest, shaman, and hunter sets look pretty bad ass.

drood got shafted imo

4/18/2007 12:26:22 PM

timswar
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Druids look like they should look based on how Blizz has set up their other sets... i like it personally...

Hunter armor is ... that eyeball on their head looks retarded...

Gnome Warlocks look like cockroaches...

4/18/2007 12:37:09 PM

ThePeter
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The paladin armor set is fugly imo. What was that black/red/gold set? That looked phat as hell.

4/18/2007 1:27:01 PM

hydro290
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so how long did it take to get the nether drake? can you get it without already having an epic flying mount?

4/18/2007 1:33:32 PM

jprince11
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yo I haven't played in like a year but I wanted to start a gnome warlock; are they still horrible pvp?

4/18/2007 1:42:33 PM

Stein
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"stein you dumbass"


What'd I do?

4/18/2007 1:44:09 PM

God
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^^ No, warlocks are the most overpowered class now. Well, maybe second only to druids.

4/18/2007 2:13:38 PM

ssclark
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warlocks are without a doubt more overpowered than druids.... not to say -good- druids aren't imbalanced...

but warlocks are on a second teir


also only bad players pull aggro ... or players with tanks that aren't paying attention. "peaky" damage is a pretty weak arguement

4/18/2007 2:54:59 PM

davidkunttu
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"warlocks are fear is without a doubt more overpowered than druids anything...."

4/18/2007 3:50:56 PM

CalledToArms
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honestly fear is definitely not the most overpowered thing in the game.

Maybe against like BE pallies or something. Fear seems like it gets resisted more than any other magic or cc out there. plus multiple classes and races have the ability to break it as well as PVP trinkets

4/18/2007 3:53:26 PM

timswar
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"so how long did it take to get the nether drake? can you get it without already having an epic flying mount?"


you do need a flying mount, and 300 riding skill, don't knwo about an epic flying mount though... mmo-champion.com has a guide up for getting the drake... and for the ray

4/18/2007 3:57:35 PM

God
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^^ not shamans

plus, you can't "break" deathcoil

4/18/2007 4:14:19 PM

Shaggy
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" Fear seems like it gets resisted more than any other magic or cc out there"



bullshit.

15 second of full CC every time. That shit is unbreakable

4/18/2007 4:18:17 PM

hydro290
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Fear is why I always roll with a Glimmering Mithril Insignia.

4/18/2007 4:21:08 PM

God
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^^ So is scatter shot and ice trap.

4/18/2007 4:24:03 PM

CalledToArms
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^^^^ deathcoil isnt a fear and yes DC is overpowered. you have tremor totem. and yes there are other things that could be used, but if fear is as overpowered as everyone thinks it is, then it is worth putting the tremor down.

[Edited on April 18, 2007 at 4:24 PM. Reason : ]

4/18/2007 4:24:24 PM

Doss2k
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l2rollundead come on

4/18/2007 4:25:43 PM

God
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^^ Tremor only pulses every 5 seconds and has a 10 yard range, PLUS if you get deathcoiled before you lay down the totem and then feared while in the deathcoil, then GG

4/18/2007 4:26:42 PM

God
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Not to mention the 4 instant dots a warlock lays on you take away 75% of your health. Even if you do damage to the warlock you're still dead.

4/18/2007 4:28:10 PM

God
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Not to mention most warlocks have over 10k hitpoints now.

Not to mention seduce.

Not to mention spell lock.

4/18/2007 4:28:54 PM

CalledToArms
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well yes warlocks are overpowered in general. If we are talking about warlock specific fears then yes i completely agree

priest and warrior fears however are a totally different story.

4/18/2007 4:30:11 PM

Doss2k
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rogues can handle warlocks pretty well, assuming that they dont have a succubus out at least

4/18/2007 4:32:33 PM

SandSanta
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You guys don't know what overpower means.

Oh no, you got kited and shot by a warlock? BOO HOO. Cry more.

Can a warlock spec into being a better healer then a shaman? On par melee dps with a rogue? Excellent offtank?

Nope.

4/18/2007 4:46:23 PM

Novicane
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warlock's have a casting time on their fear. You should be able to interrupt it.

priest's don't have a casting time on their fear.

4/18/2007 4:46:44 PM

CapnObvious
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Fear is extremely overpowered . . . if you don't use one of the 100000 things that can break it.

4/18/2007 5:02:46 PM

God
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LOOK MAYBE I AM JUST BITTER

BUT WHEN I DIE WITHOUT GETTING A HIT OFF ON SOMEONE

I THINK THAT IS OVERPOWERED.

AND DONT TELL ME TO L2P, SHAMAN JUST SUCK PERIOD.

4/18/2007 5:50:36 PM

smoothcrim
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drop grounding, wait for them to waste dc on it, drop tremor while grounding is up, shock whenever they start to cast fear. stormstrike the fuck out of em while they're locked on shadow since incinerate doesnt do shit

4/18/2007 6:05:34 PM

Golovko
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you guys complain way too fucking much. Every class you roll you cry about. just quit the game already.

4/18/2007 6:27:40 PM

God
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^^ That sure helps in a 100yd radius arena where totems only have a max range of 10 yds. Oh, and they can wand the totem.

That also doesn't stop the 4 instant dots they put on at the beginning that do over 7k damage.

4/18/2007 6:38:59 PM

jaZon
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ok.....i quit guild a few weeks ago

last night the guild i'm apping to let me run karazhan with them

last guild couldn't even down moroes

we made it to prince last night

just shows you how bad some people are

the new guild isn't geared that much better

but they were pulling like madmen and just rolled right through that shit

i was playing like ass since it was all so new

4/18/2007 6:51:17 PM

Azaka
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"so how long did it take to get the nether drake? can you get it without already having an epic flying mount?"


You can't even start the quest line to gain faction with the Netherwing unless you have the epic flying mount. Someone already finished it on the test server but that was only because everytime the PTR went down it reset the daily timer on quests. You can only gain 2500 rep per day so it'll be a while before anyone gets it on a live server.

4/18/2007 7:13:50 PM

jaZon
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oh that's ghey

4/18/2007 9:59:07 PM

Lumex
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Its Rock paper scissors

A warlock that cant kill a shaman is a crappy warlock.

A warrior that cant kill a warlock is a crappy warrior.

A rogue that cant kill everything is a crappy rogue.

Rogues are nuclear explosion in rock paper scissors.

[Edited on April 19, 2007 at 4:19 AM. Reason : hm]

4/19/2007 4:18:24 AM

ncWOLFsu
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^bullshit

locks can keep you feared the whole time. you can break one of them, assuming that you aren't an idiot and are in beserker stance, and then one more if you are fury and pop death wish, but even then they can make you run enough to stack all their DoT's and pretty much have you close to dead.

although, with the changes they're makin to the way fear is broken that could change.

and a warrior should be able to kill a rogue any day. overpower ftw.

4/19/2007 6:58:31 AM

timswar
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^ warriors and warlocks are basically a "who strikes first" scenario... whoever gets the drop on the other will probably win...

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BUT WHEN I DIE WITHOUT GETTING A HIT OFF ON SOMEONE

I THINK THAT IS OVERPOWERED."


so rogues are OPed?

4/19/2007 7:35:20 AM

Lokken
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"and a warrior should be able to kill a rogue any day. overpower ftw."


no competent rogue fears overpower.

but still warriors should do fine against rogues.

4/19/2007 9:16:14 AM

Shaggy
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"^^ So is scatter shot and ice trap."


both are break on damage, unlike warlock cc which is becomes-even-less-breakable-on-damage.

also, trap lasts 5 or 6 seconds max and has DR, whereas fear is 15 seconds every time and has no DR.

4/19/2007 10:13:59 AM

Novicane
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"First off, the Warrior skill Devastate, which had been changed to "strike with both weapons when dual-wielding," is being reverted, since it seems to be doing too much damage:

The change to Devastate in 2.1 is being reverted and will not be a change for the patch once it goes live. We've done some additional damage testing and the output is in far excess of what we had thought it would provide.
"


wow you warriors get shafted every patch lol, so glad i stopped playing mine

4/19/2007 10:57:43 AM

Nashattack
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think I should just quit leveling mine and start something new? I'd hate to get to 70 and be worthless

With that in mind, I dont mind only being used as a tank

4/19/2007 11:19:37 AM

Lokken
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lvl 70 warriors are one of the most usefull classes

4/19/2007 11:36:22 AM

hydro290
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I wouldn't let nerfs stop you from leveling a character. If you read the forums, you'll see that most classes are raising bloody hell about the upcoming patch. There will always be nerfs. There will always be a new flavor of the month.

As a Warrior, you will ALWAYS be needed.

4/19/2007 11:53:16 AM

Calrizzian
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How long before the Rogue flavor runs out?

4/19/2007 12:00:47 PM

ncWOLFsu
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jesus the devastate buff never even made it live. lmao they're nerfin my warrior before i even get a chance to enjoy the stuff.

could they not have just scaled it down to what they were expecting the buff to be?

4/19/2007 12:03:55 PM

hydro290
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I got a question for you guys. My friends and I consist of a paladin, warrior, mage, priest, and shaman.

Is there any way this setup will work in 5 man heroics or are we going to have to lose a healer/hybrid and get a more reliable form of CC (assuming MC doesn't cut it, maybe it does)?

What do you think the best paladin/priest/shaman spec combination is for 5 man arena?

4/19/2007 12:14:17 PM

smoothcrim
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have your priest come with an empty bag. on pulls you dont have the dps/tanking to handle, have him go out and mind sooth a guy in the pull while naked. he'll die, you rez with the paladin/shaman who were way the fuck back. rinse and repeat as needed.

4/19/2007 12:34:42 PM

SandSanta
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Why would you even seriously suggest something like that?

4/19/2007 12:49:36 PM

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