it only wouldve been backcourt if his entire foot was behind the line

bottom line on this game is Dirk had a chance to send it to OT and he missed

6/5/2011 11:04:44 PM

Its already been settled on tv that it was backcourt. Once you establish the ball into the frontcourt the midline becomes essentially an out of bounds line.

6/5/2011 11:10:41 PM

you might be right i'd have to see it again

but dallas was in position to send it to OT and they didnt make the shot

i could say lebron shouldve gone to the line for a couple FTs on a play early in the 4th but didnt get the call, point is they had a chance at the end and didnt convert

6/5/2011 11:16:58 PM

Thats a judgement call. We can't say those things about judgement calls because that happens on every play. We can say when someone makes a shot with a foot on a line or steps out of bounds without a doubt that it should not have counted.

P.S. I saw Lebron move into Marion on that play where he got fouled with no call. Good no call imo.

6/5/2011 11:22:14 PM

Clearly the refs gave the game to Miami based on the outcome of a single play.

Also, you people act like Miami is the only team that argues calls. Look at Tyson Chandler's face when he gets called for a foul or Dirk's when he doesn't get a call.

6/5/2011 11:29:09 PM

I really don't understand the desire to try to boil every game down to one sentence a la "dallas had a shot to tie or win and failed." Seems like a lazy analysis of the game (or any game) if you ask me.

That type of "bottom line" analysis would be like me saying "Bill Russell has the most nba rings, so he's the best of all time." I really don't understand why so many fans are willing to just accept that level analysis.

6/5/2011 11:31:15 PM

The officiating was terrible down the stretch, but I don't think it affected the outcome one way or the other. Some of the calls were very inconsistent.

6/5/2011 11:34:20 PM

Quote :

"ratings should be good for this series... I think everyone in the country is rooting against the heatles...except south beach"

lol the heatles, I guess lebron is john lennon, wade mccartney, bosh harrison and the entire rest of the team is ringo

6/6/2011 12:01:35 AM

that is a major disservice to George Harrison

6/6/2011 12:23:14 AM

Quote :

"I really don't understand the desire to try to boil every game down to one sentence a la "dallas had a shot to tie or win and failed." Seems like a lazy analysis of the game (or any game) if you ask me."

its a very valid response to people who blame a 48 minute game on a shot at the end of the 2nd quarter

6/6/2011 1:02:36 AM

Paul Mccartney was better than John Lennon?

6/6/2011 1:21:08 AM

Quote :

"Rockem-Sockem Robots: The Movie"

That's what we called it in our house. I can't believe they made that movie, but it will make money, so I guess I can believe it.

Also, we don't have enough money so we have to use this busted old sparring robot.
[wins a few parking lot brawls, collects reward money]
Hey, lets dump this old sparring robot and buy ourselves a real robot to compete with the big boys.
[the end]

Yes, that's all I got out of the game last night.

6/6/2011 8:05:46 AM

the refs definitely sucked. they're going to try to take the series to seven. the calls made in each of the big runs that have happened in the series have strongly favored the team making the run.

6/6/2011 8:50:26 AM

if anything the refs were favoring Dallas in a big way last night

lol at Gregg "you see me trollin" Doyel

6/6/2011 11:17:17 AM

Yeah how dare they call Lebron for traveling. Every other ref lets him get away with it all game.

6/6/2011 11:21:27 AM

Lots of whiners ITT on both sides

6/6/2011 12:49:27 PM

Quote :

"We can say when someone makes a shot with a foot on a line or steps out of bounds without a doubt that it should not have counted."

Or Jason Kidd's 4 skip steps before leaning into Wade to draw a foul that you can clearly see in the replay

6/6/2011 1:31:10 PM

That was one point. Heat are still +2 on bullshit. Oddly, they won by 2.

[Edited on June 6, 2011 at 2:41 PM. Reason : traveling isn't even as clear cut as stepping on a line eihter]

6/6/2011 2:40:35 PM

Man some Lebron haters in this thread:

Quote :

"James remains the Heat's playoff leader in points, assists and steals, and is virtually tied with Bosh for top rebounder. LeBron has logged more minutes -- 790 of 'em -- than anyone in the playoffs."

6/6/2011 3:42:11 PM

Haven't you heard? Only the last 5 minutes matter

6/6/2011 3:43:54 PM

Quote :

"The indisputable fact that LeBron had a better final minute than Dirk Nowitzki. In their last two possessions, LeBron had an assist and a missed shot, and Dirk had a turnover and a missed shot. As a result, LeBron's team won."

6/6/2011 3:44:51 PM

So we're basing effectiveness on two possessions now

6/6/2011 3:48:31 PM

^^^^

6/6/2011 3:55:29 PM

LeBron doesn't have to go balls out every game. Miami is so good that he can be 80% Bron and they'll still win the series fairly easily. Like I said before the first game...

Quote :

"All I'm hearing from TV, internet and you guys is LeBron and Dirk, Dirk and Lebron. Just a bunch of gibberish. Motherfuckers act like they forgot about Wade. Your 2011 Finals MVP. You heard it here first."

6/6/2011 3:57:47 PM

Heat won't stand a chance if butler comes back to do a little scoring and shut down wade.

6/6/2011 4:03:49 PM

He hasn't played in five months. In the slim chance he does return, it will be mainly ceremonial, just to give a lift to the rest of the team. Expecting him to have any real impact at this point is misguided.

6/6/2011 4:08:37 PM

ala Haslem

6/6/2011 4:18:33 PM

Haslem had a month plus to get back in game action

Butler would have maybe five days

6/6/2011 4:23:32 PM

because butler has just been sitting on his couch all this time

6/6/2011 4:50:00 PM

I'd be willing to bet a significant sum that Butler doesn't play meaningful minutes until October. Put your money where your mouth is or agree to disagree.

6/6/2011 4:55:21 PM

I don't think he'll be ready to play either but i'm saying if he's ready he'll be ready. He's close to 100% at this point they are just concerned about how his injury will react to heavy contact. He's been practicing just no full contact. You act like he's been on crutches or something all this time.

6/6/2011 5:14:39 PM

With Haslem, it was more of a matter of pain tolerance. With Butler, there's a chance he could re-injure his knee. I understand why he wants to come back; this may be his only shot to be part of a title winning team. But he's a free agent, so risking his next contract for just a few minutes of action seems shortsighted.

6/6/2011 5:19:44 PM

I like how people use percentages for health like some dudes leg is an Itunes download. You're either injured or you're not and then you're either "tender" or you're not. Saying someones 70% or 90% don't mean a damn thing.

6/6/2011 5:43:22 PM

I dont think Butler will play, he's a free agent seems risky.

Besides, he sucked this season and Stevenson is playing well this series so it wouldn't really make a big difference even if he were 100% (which he obv wont be)


Wade is definitely the MVP as of right now, that was an unbelievable game. Bosh worst player on the court for Miami two games in a row. Lebron is still playing well but Wade was phenomenonal. They're getting nothing from Haslem but Chalmers had a great game to make up for it.


Marion had a bad game and Barea was a total disaster. They really needed a better option, it's pretty gross to spend that much on your roster and then be forced to use that guy in the NBA Finals where he's killing them. Not sure why they didn't go with Stevenson since he's been good in the series so far.

[Edited on June 6, 2011 at 8:25 PM. Reason : a]

6/6/2011 8:18:25 PM

Don't know where to put this, but Mark Jackson as Warriors head coach?

6/6/2011 10:02:45 PM

^^ do you even watch the games or just read the stat lines?

6/6/2011 10:50:12 PM

Of course I watch the games. I do usually check the box scores as well though for objective evaluations of the games, particularly if I got really drunk during the game.

6/6/2011 11:08:32 PM

Barea starting at the 2 tonight?

6/7/2011 8:09:18 PM

Down the stretch they need to do like they did in game 2 and have terry press fullcourt then put marion on whoever gets the ball first out of wade and lebron. That way if the heat get the ball in a mismatch you can bring the double with no time on the shot clock.

[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 8:17 PM. Reason : i would like to see stevenson on wade]

6/7/2011 8:16:10 PM

I dont think it really matters who you put on Wade or Lebron, the firepower from the Miami side is too much for the Mavs. D Wade is D Wade, LBJ has been playing D like a champion (check out D Rose and J Terry's stats when LBJ is/was guarding them), and say what you want about Bosh/Wonder Woman but he will get points and boards. Dirk simply does not have enough help to win, reminiscent of LBJ with Cleveland a couple years back and D Rose with Chicago this year.

6/7/2011 8:28:31 PM

i dunno if you can say Dirk doesn't have enough to win...sure of the best 4 players in the series, Dirk is the only one on Dallas, but I still think its gonna be a close series...Wade could've easily won game 2 with a buzzer beater and Dirk could've easily sent game 3 into overtime with a buzzer beater...its not like Miami is blowing them out

6/7/2011 9:05:08 PM

damn dirk

6/7/2011 9:08:53 PM

I don't care what NBA fans say. This is the only level of basketball where you can pick the ball and take off running full speed with no concern for where defenders are, create a collision where there was never a possible way for you to score, and get points for it. Its bullshit and Wade and Lebron are great because they take advantage of it the more than any other player to ever play the game.

6/7/2011 9:27:34 PM

Chandler should crash the offensive boards hard regardless of where the ball is since the refs aren't calling any offensive interference penalties

6/7/2011 9:28:57 PM

^International rules

6/7/2011 9:35:11 PM

Barea has to start knocking down some of those open looks

[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 9:51 PM. Reason : get Barea the fuck out. He isn't doing anything on offense and is a huge liability on d]

6/7/2011 9:45:17 PM

At this point I'm starting to believe some puerto rican in Miami paid barea off.

[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 9:54 PM. Reason : Could Dallas be any worse? Miami is having a shitty game. ]

[Edited on June 7, 2011 at 10:00 PM. Reason : finally a basketball team]

6/7/2011 9:48:41 PM

Fuck Lebron and his egotistical ass, the King James bullshit is retarded. Anyone who refers to themselves as King anything is an asshole. Not to mention he travels like it's going out of style. Wade is a whiney bitch, anytime someone touches him he's looking to the refs for a foul. I knew i'd hate this team as soon as I saw all the publicity shit at the beginning of the season. Fuck the heat and the entire city of miami. Go Dirk!

/end rant

6/7/2011 10:52:41 PM

Lebron the great is 3/10. I don't see how the Heat wouldn't be in the same position with Danny Granger instead of Lebron.

Quote :

"Anyone who refers to themselves as King anything is an asshole. "

-Sara Bareilles

6/7/2011 11:05:39 PM

Should be a clear path foul there

6/7/2011 11:07:38 PM