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tkeaton
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ya know....bc of salisburyboy's 9/11 threads, i became pretty interested in the ideas he presented, whomever they originally belonged to

however, after this thread....

7/13/2005 10:10:23 PM

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this thread proves, much like the london bombings, just how much fanatics suck

7/13/2005 10:38:57 PM

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"ya know....bc of salisburyboy's 9/11 threads, i became pretty interested in the ideas he presented, whomever they originally belonged to"


YOU'RE KIDDING, RIGHT? Please fucking tell me you do not take the shit salisburyboy posts seriously. For the love of God and all that is holy, I hope you just take what salisburyboy posts for what it is- pure fictional entertainment.

7/13/2005 10:47:12 PM

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from the delightful How the Government Staged the London Bombings in Ten Easy Steps page:

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"2) Hire four Arabs and tell them they're taking part in an important exercise to help defend London from terrorist attacks. Strap them with rucksacks filled with deadly explosives. Tell the Arabs the rucksacks are dummy explosives and wouldn't harm a fly."


From salisburyboy 7/11/05:

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"Bombing suspects may be "British" (white) and not Arabs: witnesses probably reported seeing white individuals plant the bombs"


From salisburyboy 7/9/05:

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"We have watched relentlessly as the official story has been pieced together, and this looks, smells and tastes like another government operation."


We've watched as you've pieced together a conspiracy theory to explain this. Unfortunately, it looks, smells and tastes like another one of your moronic attempts to explain an event with your ridiculous little theories.

7/14/2005 10:13:32 AM

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/140705toomuch.htm

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"London Bombing: Ex-Mossad Chief Reveals Too Much?

Global News Matrix | July 14 2005

How did ex-Mossad chief Efraim Halevy know that the London bombings were "multiple, simultaneous explosions" when he wrote his warmonger screed for the Jerusalem Post on July 7 -- the very same day of the London Bombing?

Did Halevi reveal too much operational knowledge?

"The multiple, simultaneous explosions that took place today on the London transportation system were the work of perpetrators who had an operational capacity of considerable scope," Halevy began.

Was he decribing an operation with which he was familiar - since it was not widely known that the bombs exploded "simultaneosly"?

Also, It was reported that Israeli officials were ordered not to make public comments on the London Bombing.

Then there is this troubling quote from Halevi, when he wrote --
"There was careful planning, intelligence gathering, and a sophisticated choice of timing as well as near-perfect execution."

"Near-perfect execution"?

How would Halevi know the bombings were executed "near-perfectly," and not "imperfectly" or "perfectly," -- on the same day of the attacks?

What were his criteria of "success"?

Did Halevi know what "perfect" execution should have entailed?

That comment opens up a Pandora's Box of possible explanations.

What does Halevi really know about the London Bombings?

Sharon obviously didn't muzzle Halevi in time."

7/14/2005 4:14:04 PM

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"Was he decribing an operation with which he was familiar - since it was not widely known that the bombs exploded "simultaneosly"?"


That was pretty widely known. Multiple explosions during the morning rush hour could be called "simultaneous."

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"How would Halevi know the bombings were executed "near-perfectly," and not "imperfectly" or "perfectly," -- on the same day of the attacks?"


The terrorists picked a spot where a bomb could inflict the most damage. The exploded when the area was most crowded. This has all been known since it happened.

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"What were his criteria of "success"?"


High casualties. Since that morning all casualty estimates have been 30+ dead, hundreds wounded.

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"Did Halevi know what "perfect" execution should have entailed?"


Having a vague idea of how to effectively kill people with explosives doesn't make anyone special.

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"Sharon obviously didn't muzzle Halevi in time."


Once again wild assumption and speculation is used in lieu of any actual evidence, physical or otherwise. Halevy (or Halevi, this brilliantly written article spells it both ways) watched the same real news that everyone else watches. I knew this much the day it all happened too. Of course, he's a Jew, and former Mossad chief at that, so the tin foil hat network must read into anything he says and somehow fit it into their ridiculous conspiracy theory.

This thread has made it 3 pages without proving or even providing evidence of anything. Of course, your hilarious 9/11 thread is ten times as long and accomplishes as much as this one. You can't even defend your ideas anymore, how do you expect anyone else to believe this nonsense?

7/14/2005 4:29:09 PM

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/140705policestate.htm

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"Mission Accomplished: Brits Embrace Police State

Kurt Nimmo | July 14 2005

“News of the breakthrough comes as a Times poll conducted in the aftermath of the bombings indicates that an overwhelming majority of the British public favors a tough approach to terrorist suspects,” reports the Times Online ( http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22989-1690391,00.html ).

“Almost 90 per cent of people want the police to be given new powers to arrest people suspected of planning terrorist acts, tighter immigration controls and strict baggage inspections.” Never mind none of this will prevent “terrorism,” especially state-sponsored terrorism.

More importantly, this “consensus” will breathe new life into the Labor government’s compulsory National Identity Card plan and a nod and a wink for Blair’s so-called “anti-terrorism” laws I.e., the Prevention of Terrorism Bill) allowing the government to impose house arrest, curfews, and electronic tagging without trial of “terrorism suspects,” that is to say anybody the British government deems a terrorist (without evidence or the hassle of courts and defense lawyers)."



http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/140705frameup.htm

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"Frame-up: Do These People Fit The Bill Of Suicide Bombers?

As we predicted, the so-called suicide bombers are ordinary people who would have nothing to gain and everything to lose from blowing themselves up. We have a frame-up in action."



New Developments In London Underground Exercise Story
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/130705newdevelopments.htm

7/14/2005 4:33:42 PM

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http://www.zaman.com/?bl=hotnews&alt=&trh=20050713&hn=21681

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"11 London Blast Victims Identified
Thursday July 14, 2005

Eleven of the victims of the multiple bomb explosions in the British capital London last Thursday, July 7, have been identified."


Only 11 of the 52 dead have been identified, but they claim to have identified all four of the "suicide bombers"? Go figure.

7/14/2005 4:56:26 PM

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http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/071305Leonard/071305leonard.html

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"London Britches Falling Down

By John Leonard
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A British disaster recovery consultant working at the scene of the London 7/7 bombings tells British TV and radio how they occurred precisely at the times and places scheduled in a terrorism drill he was running.

Terrorism experts Jones and Tarpley explain why terror drills are a sure sign of a false flag op—they create the alibi that covers up the activities of insider perpetrators."

7/14/2005 5:00:42 PM

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"Mission Accomplished: Brits Embrace Police State"


Because thats exactly what the British people say.

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"Frame-up: Do These People Fit The Bill Of Suicide Bombers?"


They don't even have a profile to compare them to. But go ahead, lets trust prisonplanet to psychologically evaluate people that they have never met.

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"11 London Blast Victims Identified"


Why don't you go get that information from something other than a turkish online newspaper? The horrible english leads to me to wonder how well they can translate their stories.

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"Terrorism experts Jones and Tarpley"


Alex Jones is now a terrorism expert? What exactly is that based on? Webster G. Tarpley is simply another conspiracy nut. I'd like to see his credentials as a "terrorism expert" if you can find them.

Once again, you have created the absolute weakest argument possible. I applaud you.

[Edited on July 14, 2005 at 5:10 PM. Reason : HAIL SATAN!]

7/14/2005 5:05:44 PM

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OMG OMG OMG

7/14/2005 5:06:48 PM

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Blair Finally Admits: Al-Qaeda Doesn't Exist
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/150705blairadmits.htm

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"Commenting on the possible role of Al Qaeda, Blair said, "Al Qaeda is not an organization. Al Qaeda is a way of working ... but this has the hallmark of that approach."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,162476,00.html"



http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/150705oneworld.htm

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"'One City, One World' Displayed at Bombings Tribute

Prison Planet | July 15 2005

Media were made to wear 'London united' tags as the cermony took place behind a banner that read 'One City, One World.'"



http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/150705anothercontradiction.htm

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"Another Contradiction in the London Bombings

Prison Planet | July 15 2005

MSNBC today: Western intelligence sources tell NBC News that three of the suspects in the London bombing plot, including one of the suspected bombers, have U.S. connections. These sources also say authorities are now back to believing that the explosive material was homemade — similar to that found in the shoe of the “shoe bomber” Richard Reid.

Associated Press 07/09: Bombs that shook the city's subway system last week exploded within 50 seconds of each other and were made of high explosives, not homemade material, police said Saturday.

Was the military that supplied the explosives too close to home, causing them to change yet another aspect of the story?"



http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/150705idcard.htm

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"Australia to consider ID card 'to fight terrorism'

Reuters | July 15 2005

SYDNEY (Reuters) - Australia should consider introducing a national identity card in the wake of the London bombings and the rise in global terrorism, Prime Minister John Howard said on Friday.

Australia last debated a national ID card, called the Australia Card, in 1987. Howard, then in opposition, opposed the card, but now says times have changed."

7/16/2005 10:39:18 AM

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"the cermony took place behind a banner that read 'One City, One World.'""

dude
they did just win the olympics

wait
why am i replying

7/16/2005 10:48:23 AM

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/150705busbombing.htm

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"London Stagecoach Employee Says Bus Bombing Suspicious

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 15 2005

We received an e mail from an employee of Stagecoach, the company responsible for the majority of London buses.

Our contact works a route roughly one mile from the site of the bus bombing last Thursday.

The bus driver pointed out that the number 30 bus was the only one to be re-routed after the initial bombs went off in the London Underground, every other bus carried on its normal journey, but for some reason this bus was diverted.

The driver notes the following about CCTV maintainence.

"CCTV gets maintained at least 2 or 3 times a week and can digitally store upto 2 whole weeks worth of footage. this is done by a private contractor....So when I heard that the CCTV wasn't working on a vehicle that's no more than 2 years old since last June.....I'm sorry that's rubbish, I work for the company I know different."

Also a point of interest....last saturday a contractor came to inspect the CCTV on the buses at the depot, According to my supervisor the person spent more than 20 hours over that weekend, 20 hours to see if the CCTV is working? Also that person who came was not a regular contractor, for security reasons the same few people always come to the depot to carry out work, this time it was different.

Drivers in the depot already think the so called bombers had inside help because it was to organised. Some even think it had help from the company."

I have received other information suggesting that the CCTV is regularly maintained and checked. The police pay the bus company to check it, and the bus company makes a substantial profit out of this, so all parties benefit from keeping the CCTV systems working.

This information makes it all the more suspicious that the bus cameras were not working.

Was the mammoth 20 hour inspection session of the CCTV a means of disabling the CCTV, or something even darker? Were the contractors, who were not familiar to the bus company employees, actually placing the bomb?

But don't worry, the media are drooling over this picture of supposed suicide bomber Hasib Hussain, who we are told detonated the bus bomb.

Well, it's a grainy picture of a Muslim guy with a rucksack, case closed! That's good enough evidence for me, I'm going back to sleep.

It's beyond doubt that these four Muslims were framed. They were most likely hired as MI6 spies, sent to Pakistan and then brought back and told they were to take part in an important exercise to test national security. Give them the rucksacks, get them on the trains and then detonate the bombs remotely.

Do you really believe for a second that guys with 8 month babies and guys who taught diasbled schoolchildren would want to blow themselves up and kill other innocent people?"

7/16/2005 11:32:46 AM

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http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/london_exercise_video.html

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"The 7/7 London Bombings: How to Set Up a Patsy

I got an email with an interesting rumor going around London that just before the attacks, someone was trying to hire Muslims to play terrorists for a terror drill, to try to sneak onto the trains and buses with fake bombs to test out the security.

We know the terror drill was real. We know they were running the drill at the exact same stations the bombings actually occurred.

We know that the accused bombers don't fit the profile of men ready to die for Allah. Indeed, it is reported that some of them were not particularly religious.

Yet we are faced with the strange claim that these men, one of whom had a new family, and another whose wife was pregnant, carried bombs set on timers and stood there waiting for them explode.

This makes sense ONLY if they thought they were carrying fake bombs as part of a terror drill. This also explains the nervousness of the man on the bus who had probably just heard of the real explosions and was starting to suspect that the fake bomb he was carrying might not be fake after all.

If these men thought they were committing suicide, why did they buy RETURN TICKETS ON THE TRAIN? Why did they pay for "pay and display" tickets for their cars at the parking area?

"Hey you, Muslim person. Wanna make a hundred pounds? You could use that kind of dough, with a new kid and all. We're running a terror drill, and all you gotta do is take this here harmless backpack with a fake bomb inside to work with you tomorrow, just to see if the subway guards catch you or not. Mum's the word, this is national security and all; you can't tell anyone!""

7/16/2005 11:58:55 AM

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http://infowars.com/articles/London_attack/probability_drill_attack_coinciding.htm

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"Probability of 7/7 Drill and Attack Coinciding

Infowars.com | July 13, 2005

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PROBABILITY OF DRILL AND TERROR ATTACK COINCIDING BY CHANCE (10yr mean):
One chance in 3,715,592,613,265,750,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Estimate of Grains of sand in the whole world:
7,500,000,000,000,000,000

In context: If I go to a beach, or a desert, or under the sea and pick a single grain of sand. What chance is there of you going to the same part of the world by chance and picking up the same grain? You are trillions of times more likely to do this that the London drill coinciding with this attack at that hour

I wonder why the media aren't reporting the drill??"



London bombs home-made from pharmacy ingredients
http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1610072005

Just forget they first said military explosives were used. Only those crazy "conspiracy nuts" would bring that up anyway.


http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/Jul05/140705docs_explosives.html

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"Documents and explosives, a few simple questions

Steve Watson | July 14 2005

Following the "revelation" that the so called London Bombers left personal documents at the scenes of the attacks, plus a car load of explosives at Luton Station, there are a few unanswered questions that need addressing."


[Edited on July 16, 2005 at 1:13 PM. Reason : 1]

7/16/2005 1:12:33 PM

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British Media again tentatively questions official line on bombings
http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Jul05/170705questions.html


http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article299674.ece

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"The reconstruction: 7/7 - What really happened?

Were the four bombers being controlled or acting alone?
Why did they buy return tickets if they were intending to die?
Could MI5 have found out what was happening and stopped it?
Was an al-Qa'ida suspect allowed to travel to the UK unwatched? The
unanswered questions of the London attacks BY Cole Moreton


Published: 17 July 2005

Suicide bombers do not buy return tickets. Theirs is a one-way trip. When four young men met at Luton railway station a week ago last Thursday, however, they gave every impression of going to London and coming back. They paid and displayed, leaving valid tickets on the windows of a Nissan Micra and a Fiat Bravo in the station car park. They boarded the 7.48am to London carrying return tickets."



London Bombings - Web of Deceit: Peter Power, The Terror Drill, Giuliani and The CIA
http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Jul05/160705web_of_deceit.html

7/18/2005 10:35:10 AM

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"If these men thought they were committing suicide, why did they buy RETURN TICKETS ON THE TRAIN? Why did they pay for "pay and display" tickets for their cars at the parking area? "

because looking normal should be the first goal of any terrorist

7/18/2005 10:45:15 AM

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Blair Finally Admits: Al-Qaeda Doesn't Exist

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"Commenting on the possible role of Al Qaeda, Blair said, "Al Qaeda is not an organization. Al Qaeda is a way of working ... but this has the hallmark of that approach."

"Al Qaeda clearly has the ability to provide training ... to provide expertise ... and I think that is what has occurred here," Blair said."


I love it when you completely ignore the context of a remark and interpret it as supporting any of your asinine ideas.

'One City, One World' Displayed at Bombings Tribute

Well, yeah, the 2012 Olympics.

Another Contradiction in the London Bombings

Media corrections of early reports = conspiracy?

Australia to consider ID card 'to fight terrorism'

So having citizens carry identification is a part of the NWO agenda? I'll be damned if I every carry any sort of plastic laminated card which displays my picture and any necessary information, such as address, height, and birthday.

London Stagecoach Employee Says Bus Bombing Suspicious

So it took 20 hours to disable a camera? I would expect that the NWO would be better with electronics.

Explain this to me, was there a guy on the bus who didn't know that there was a bomb in his bag, or was there a bomb planted on the bus? Please pick a single conspiracy theory before trying to convince us of either.

The 7/7 London Bombings: How to Set Up a Patsy

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"I got an email with an interesting rumor going around London that just before the attacks"


Well it must be true! Its a webpage citing a rumor heard through an email followed by a lot of speculation. This is some damn good evidence, salisburyboy!

Probability of 7/7 Drill and Attack Coinciding

Thats the absolute worst application of statistics that I have ever seen.

London bombs home-made from pharmacy ingredients

They were explosives made by an individual who studied chemistry for a number of years and were similar to the plastic explosives used by Richard Reid. I imagine that they're a lot my effective than a fertilizer bomb or whatever you're imagining.

Documents and explosives, a few simple questions

I'm glad that prisonplanet.com has begun publishing the writings of the mentally handicapped.

The reconstruction: 7/7 - What really happened?

Did you even read this article? It backs the official story.

London Bombings - Web of Deceit: Peter Power, The Terror Drill, Giuliani and The CIA

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"Beyond the unbelievable "coincidence" of this scenario, the very fact that the bombs in the drill were simultaneous is a smoking gun because almost a week went by before it was revealed that the bombs had gone off simultaneously."


I love it when they say "coincidence" and "smoking gun" in the same sentence.

7/18/2005 11:18:13 AM

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http://www.gg2.net/viewnews.asp?nid=732&tid=top_headlines&catid=Top%20Headlines

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"London bombers may have been tricked into setting off bombs: Police

GG2.NET NEWS
7-18-2005

BRITISH police are considering the possibility that the four key suspects in the recent London attacks may have been tricked into setting off their bombs – according to the police, as of now, there is no evidence that those who set off the bombs were suicide bombers.

"We do not have hard evidence that the men were suicide bombers. It is possible that they did not intend to die,” a Scotland Yard spokesman said.

According to one police hypothesis, the bombers were tricked by a "master” who told them they would have time to escape — when, in fact, the devices were set to go off immediately.

"The bombers’ master might have thought that he couldn’t risk the four men being caught and spilling everything to British interrogators,” an unnamed security official has said.

Lending weight to the theory is the fact that all four men had paid up their parking tickets before boarding a train at Luton for King’s Cross and that they all bought return tickets to the Capital.

Moreover, the paper said, the men were carrying their explosives inside rucksacks, as opposed to strapped to their bodies, as is common practice among suicide bombers.

None were reported to have cried "Allah-o-Akbar” before setting off their charge — something which most suicide bombers do.

"It is possible they were duped into believing there would be a delay, but what we know is that they carried bombs onto Tubes and a bus and set them off, killing themselves and innocent people,” one senior officer said."


And the official story changes once again.


London plot thickens, as does propaganda
http://prisonplanet.com/Pages/Jul05/190705propaganda.html

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""Why and how did former Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu get a warning to stay away from a place where he was to speak, located above one of the blast sites? How does 'suicide bombers' square with earlier police claims of timing devices? Why did the 'suspects' leave a car full of explosives in a parking lot in Luton, 30 miles from London? (Did they expect someone to find the car and put the explosives to good use?) What about the anti-terrorism exercises scheduled for the same hour in which the bombings took place? How did former head of the Mossad, Efraim Halevi, writing in the Jerusalem Post on July 7, the day of the attacks, know that the bombs went off simultaneously, (when the London police did not say so for days)? And how could he claim they were 'nearly perfect'? Why did the 'suspects' take credit cards along on a suicide mission?

"Authorities now say the explosives used were not military grade after all, but home brews. Seems like they had a tough time explaining how the supposed culprits could get military grade stuff. The Boston Herald reported yesterday that one of the supposed culprits carried not only his own ID, but also documents of one of the others. How did such documents survive the blasts, which should have torn their bodies into small pieces? This is the same as the magic 9/11 passport that appeared in the rubble."


Hahaha


Latest Developments in London Bombings
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/200705closescase.htm

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"Meanwhile bigger stories have gone unnoticed. Firstly, on Saturday we published an article highlighting the various instances of elite connections to the bombings and the drill that was taking place on the same morning.

Secondly the fact that the British Government had tracked and possibly arrested and then released their so called suspects has not hit the front pages. Could it be that the plot was discovered and then allowed to happen or aided in some way. The media should be jumping all over the fact that the terror alert level was DOWNGRADED for the first time in four years one month prior to the attacks.

Thirdly, it has gone virtually unreported that the Pound fell 6% in 10 days before London terror attacks, a clear indication of prior knowledge on the part of London's financial establishment.

And we now also have an admission by Israeli authorities that they did indeed receive prior warning of the attacks and warned Benjamin Netanyahu to stay inside his London Hotel.

This clearly indicates first that the story of power surges on the underground was prepared beforehand and used as a cover for over an hour to confuse the media and keep away those who seek the real stories. If Israel knew it was bombs before they went off then why wouldn't British police? It's a tried and tested method and serves the purpose of keeping the public and the media in line at the scene of such events.

Also the scramble to alter the initial AP reports of this story indicates that someone was attempting to cover up this smoking gun.

We've been told that there will be 'No internal inquiry' into the blasts so we might as well shut up and just believe whatever they tell us no matter how many times they change the story."


That's right. Forget about how many times they change the story. Forget about all the glaring inconsistencies and problems with the official story. If you ask questions and don't just blindly believe the official story offered by the mainstream media and government, you're a "conspiracy nut". Be good little sheep and don't try to think. You wouldn't want to be labeled a "whacko" or a "nut" would you? I didn't think so. Nothing to see here. Go back to sleep now.

7/20/2005 12:04:32 PM

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"And the official story changes once again. "


Its a developing investigation. Do you really get this excited whenever new information comes out? Can we really believe this if the only media outlet that ran the story is an Indian online journal? I would hardly call that "the official story."

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"The Boston Herald reported yesterday that one of the supposed culprits carried not only his own ID, but also documents of one of the others. How did such documents survive the blasts, which should have torn their bodies into small pieces? This is the same as the magic 9/11 passport that appeared in the rubble."


So do you expect an explosion to completely incinerate everything within a 10 foot radius? Do you know anything about explosives? Does Alex Jones?

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"Forget about all the glaring inconsistencies and problems with the official story."


You have pointed out none of these.

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"If you ask questions and don't just blindly believe the official story offered by the mainstream media and government, you're a "conspiracy nut"."


If you don't ask questions and just blindly believe whatever prisonplanet.com tells you, you're a conspiracy nut.

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Coming from an individual who can't even defend his own ideas under a rational examination. Have you even realized that you had found a conspiracy theory before you even had time to examine all of the facts regarding the London bombing? Do you even look at facts anymore or do you just believe whatever the internet tells you to? Do you seriously expect to pick up any supporters when you post anything and everything that you can find on the internet?

You made a 30+ page thread regarding 9/11 that proved nothing aside from your own lunacy. Do you expect this thread to be any different? Nothing to see here. Go back to sleep now.

7/20/2005 12:19:59 PM

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/210705moreexplosions.htm

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"More Explosions in London: Psy-ops in Progress

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones/Prison Planet | July 21 2005

Ask the question, who benefits?

Today is the last day of parliament before an 80 day break. So if the governmen wanted to get those anti-terror measures through which were proposed after the 7/7 bombing, then this status of high alert is the perfect climate to get them rammed through without dissent.

Sky News reported that members of parliament could be recalled tonight in a special session for the express purpose of passing that legislation.

And what does the legislation include? Designating anyone who writes articles or puts out a website that advocates or gives aid and comfort to the terrorists.

So you have a situation whereby they could say that someone like myself writing articles accusing the government of involvement, has a negative impact on the public’s trust of the government in fighting the war on terror and therefore aids the terrorists."

7/21/2005 2:10:29 PM

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Why don't you provide some hard evidence of government involvement?

I could say that the mole people carried out the attack and make as compelling a case as you have.

7/21/2005 2:18:13 PM

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Israeli Terror Teams Behind London Attacks
http://judicial-inc.biz/London_bus.htm

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"If these attacks were Muslims, the targets would be Jews. 'Rich and powerful Jews', to be more exact.

A Jewish conference, an exclusive Jewish restaurant, synagogues, Jewish banks, etc. The Muslims would want the world to know that Jews are the Muslim's real enemies.

Who benefits from bombing a bus-load of working Britains?"


Great point.

7/21/2005 2:54:04 PM

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what about all that "proof" u had that it was the british government behind all this? now it is israel?

GET UR CONSPIRACY BULLSHIT STRAIGHT!

7/21/2005 2:58:12 PM

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The British, American, and Israeli "governments" (ie, the elected officials and others who are merely puppets) are all controlled by a group of rich and powerful Zionists. This Zionist cabal is ultimately the real government of these nations. They are the ones with the power and control. They control the Israeli Mossad and the British intelligence agencies. The Mossad and the British government agencies have worked together in pulling off the London bombings, covering up evidence, and framing the patsies.


[Edited on July 21, 2005 at 3:14 PM. Reason : 3]

7/21/2005 3:06:40 PM

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Funny, your last link provided absolutely no evidence whatsoever.

How many rich and powerful zionists control the world? Can you tell us the names and addresses of some of these rich and powerful zionists so that we can ask them about it? Can you provide conclusive proof showing their control of world governments? Can you give us proof that the jews bombed London? Can you provide anything more factual than websites that say "Jews did it"?

If anything, your attempts at showing us your "truth" have gotten much more pathetic this summer.

7/21/2005 3:13:43 PM

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/iran_ayatollah_blair_gov_could_have_bombed.htm

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"Iran ayatollah says Blair government could have bombed London

Iran Focus | July 15, 2005

One of Iran’s most powerful clerics hinted during the Friday prayers sermon in Tehran today that last week’s London bombings could have been the work of the United Kingdom government.

Addressing worshippers at the site of Tehran University, Ayatollah Ahmad Jannati, who heads the powerful Guardian Council, the unelected constitutional watchdog, said, “At times they blame this [London bombings] as the work of Al’Qaeda. Al’Qaeda means [United States President George W.] Bush and [British Prime Minister Tony] Blair who were the mothers of Al’Qaeda and brought to life this illegitimate child”.

“There exists the possibility that the British government carried out this work, like the possibility [of American involvement] in the September 11 affair, since they themselves stand to benefit the most”, Jannati said."

7/22/2005 10:56:37 AM

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/mainstream_media_doubts_suicide_bombers.htm

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"Mainstream Media Reports "Suicide Theory" Difficult to Swallow

Infowars.com | July 19, 2005

Here are several mainstream newspapers that are now saying what we've been saying all along: It simply doesn't add up that a group of otherwise normal and quiet individuals with families and children would blow themselves up as part of a terrorist attack.

These patsies didn't have any real motive. Who had the motive? Who benefited from the attack? Tryannical governments everywhere, most especially in the UK and the US, where these events have increased support for Blair and Bush and greased the skids for more intense "anti-terror" legislation.

Its very exciting to see mainstream publications not buying into the propaganda. Never before have so many people witnessed a government-backed terrorist attack and immediately seen through it. The results of the bombings have not been what the Globalists expected. People are awake or waking. They refuse to swallow the lie and its forcing the real perpitrators of this atrocity to change their story."

7/22/2005 11:01:51 AM

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copy, paste, ignore

kinda like wash, rinse, repeat

7/22/2005 11:03:12 AM

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your ignorance is their strength

7/22/2005 11:06:53 AM

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Iran ayatollah says Blair government could have bombed London

Can you find us some credentials for these Iranian clerics? I'm curious as to how they are experts on this type of thing.

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"Here are several mainstream newspapers that are now saying what we've been saying all along"


But aren't all mainstream newspapers run by the elitist jews? Actually, can you find me a mainstream newspaper that says that the suicide bombers were patsies? Can you prove it?

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"These patsies didn't have any real motive. Who had the motive? Who benefited from the attack? "


Do I really need to explain the religious motives behind Muslim extremist suicide bombers?

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"Never before have so many people witnessed a government-backed terrorist attack and immediately seen through it."


Prove that it is government-backed.

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"The results of the bombings have not been what the Globalists expected."


Prove that these globalists actually exist and are behind it.

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"They refuse to swallow the lie and its forcing the real perpitrators of this atrocity to change their story."


Prove that it is a lie.

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"your ignorance is their strength"


You mean that his failure to blindly follow like you have is his strength.

Just like your inability to ever defend your claims is your weakness.

[Edited on July 22, 2005 at 11:11 AM. Reason : .]

7/22/2005 11:09:57 AM

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^^ ur stupidity is their will

7/22/2005 11:11:25 AM

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/220705phonygroup.htm

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"Another Phony Al-Qaeda Group Claims Responsibility For Latest London Bombings

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 22 2005

Sky News reports,

A group linked to al Qaeda has claimed responsibility for the latest London bombings, as forensic teams examine the rucksack bombs found on a bus and in Tube trains.

The group, Abu Hafs al Masri Brigade, also claimed responsibility for the explosions on July 7.

The statement's authenticity could not be immediately verified and some doubt has been cast on the group's previous claims.


Abu Hafs al Masri Brigade was described by the Boston Globe as a "phantom organization." The same group claimed responsibility for the Madrid train bombing.

There is no evidence that the group even exists. They have claimed responsibility for everything from the 2003 blackout to car bombings in Iraq, yet in no case is there any proof of their involvement.

Ben Venzke, CEO of IntelCenter, a private company that specializes in analyzing terrorist messages for government agencies, said: "They started claiming responsibility for just about everything in the world. We've never been able to determine if it is just one person sitting at a computer having fun or if it really is a group."

Even Metropolitan Police Commissioner Ian Blair admitted last week, "Al Qaeda is not an organization. Al Qaeda is a way of working."

So how can Sky News use the headline 'Group Claims Bombings' when the group doesn't exist or is just one person sitting at a computer? If I went on a random internet forum and claimed to take responsibility for the bombings on behalf of the Intergalactic Imperial Reptoids, would that claim have any less credibility than the Abu Hafs al Masri Brigade claim? No it wouldn't, and yet it would never make it into the news.

This kind of reporting is an example of crass manipulation and appeals to the lowest common denominator. The average person will read the headline and go away with the forever entranched explanation that this bombing was the work of Al-Qaeda. No questions asked, end of story.

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7/22/2005 5:25:43 PM

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/220705yardknew.htm

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"Scotland Yard Knew Of Second Bombing Attempt

London Mirror | July 22 2005

SCOTLAND Yard knew the Tube would be bombed yesterday after being tipped off there would be an attack this week, it emerged last night."

7/22/2005 5:35:07 PM

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Once again, salisburyboy has ignored the enormous gaping holes in his conspiracy theory and has already moved on to another article that proves absolutely nothing.

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"So how can Sky News use the headline 'Group Claims Bombings' when the group doesn't exist or is just one person sitting at a computer?"


Because its a headline that grabs your attention.

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"This kind of reporting is an example of crass manipulation and appeals to the lowest common denominator."


A headline gets your attention, then you read the article for more information. How is that manipulation that appeals to the lowest common denominator? Its what newspapers have done for hundreds of years.

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"The average person will read the headline and go away with the forever entranched explanation that this bombing was the work of Al-Qaeda."


The headline never says "Al Qaeda", it simply says "group".

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"No questions asked, end of story."


You actually have to read the article to think that Al Qaeda is responsible.

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"THEY'LL ATTACK US THIS WEEK
Cops tipped off over blasts; Bombs will give vital clues

By Don Mackay, Oonagh Blackman And Bob Roberts

SCOTLAND Yard knew the Tube would be bombed yesterday after being tipped off there would be an attack this week, it emerged last night.

They flooded the network with undercover armed police - while other armed officers used sniffer dogs to check passengers' rucksacks.

At 9.29am an armed unit raced to Farringdon station as they closed in on one suspected bomber - but narrowly missed him.

One security source revealed: "Certain information was received that pointed to another round of explosions this week, but the informant couldn't name exactly where and when."

However, police chiefs deduced the attack would probably be on a Thursday, as it was two weeks ago.

The source added: "After that we just knew it was going to happen and if it was going to happen it would be on Thursday.""


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15766856&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=they-ll-attack-us-this-week-name_page.html

So what exactly should they have done differently? They filled the tunnels with undercover armed police. As such, the bombing attempts were a failure. What exactly are you trying to prove?

[Edited on July 22, 2005 at 5:43 PM. Reason : .]

7/22/2005 5:39:23 PM

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/230705channel4whitewash.htm

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"UK Channel 4 Whitewash London Underground Exercise Story

'Coincidence theorists' say nothing to worry about, go back to sleep

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet | July 23 2005

A firestorm erupted amongst alternative media after this website first highlighted the inconceivable coincidence of Visor Consultants holding an exercise which centered around bombs exploding in the exact areas and at the same time as happened during the real 7/7 London Underground attack.

However, no mainstream media has reported on this massive story, instead focusing on drills that had taken place months and years before the actual event.

Until now.

British Channel 4 News has produced a special report which whitewashes the entire affair as one big coincidence and attacks this website for even questioning the unusual nature of the concurrent exercises and attacks on 7/7."

7/23/2005 10:46:01 AM

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How Black Ops Staged the London Bombings
http://wagnews.blogspot.com/2005/07/how-black-ops-staged-london-bombings.html

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"The bombs on the Underground were not in the tube carriages. They were under the floors of the carriages. The black-ops team would need access to rail or maintainance yards in order to plant these timed devices.

That's the reliable way. That's why this was inevitably how it would be done.

Confirmation of this comes from a number of reports, including this eyewitness account of the Aldgate East tube bomb by Cambridge dancer Bruce Lait. He and dance partner Crystal Main were the only passengers in their carriage who survived without serious injury - despite being nearest to the bomb blast."



Staging An Attack To Fix The Coverup Of Another
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"The latest "attack" is supposed to reaffirm that young men with rucksacks are perfectly capable of a simultaneous triggering of devices, a demonstrable fearlessness in the face of death, and a disregard for the lives of others, even women with babies.

...

In the case of the 7/7 bombings, going straightaway to the video tapes was very premature and irrational. It can only mean that they knew what they would find because they had planted the "evidence". It makes no sense to begin looking at thousands of hours of video tape from as far away as Luton without any idea of what you are looking for.

...Just like the problem with 9/11 and Madrid - there were no hijackers and no bombers to film. They tried to get around that on 7/7 by getting some patsies to photograph. They did not leave it to chance, for those picked had to be disposed of as though they had been killed in the blasts."

7/23/2005 11:18:26 AM

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911 Rerun - "Dead" British Bombing Suspect Very Much Alive
http://www.rense.com/general67/cdom.htm

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An interview of a British teenager broadcast on a Pakistani television network has thrown into doubt investigators, claims that all the three London bombers of Pakistani descent visited Pakistan last year. According to the investigators, the three bombers had died in the July 7 attacks.

But 16-year-old Hasib Hussain, a namesake of one of the putative bombers and of Pakistani descent, said in the interview that a photograph of a passport purporting to show bomber Hasib Hussain, 19, was his, and not that of the bomber."

7/23/2005 11:23:02 AM

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Salisburyboy...Thank you. I REALLY do enjoy reading these and do exactly know your point and where your comming from...

"there is no such thing as (total / Real) Freedom / Democracy"...

All of whats happening in the world is written in the bibles, torahs and quran...dont ANYONE see it?? History is repeating itself (like the Great Egyptians, Romans, British, US, etc....eras) and it will all come out, the truth will come out, just be patient and 20-30-40 or even 100 years from now, the truth will show! and hopefuly our children will provide the true justice, peace, and democracy to the world..

salisburyboy isnt bringing this from his head, HE IS DOING RESEARCH, and trying to find information unlike anyone of you numbnuts who arent or unable to find any evidence against him with online news papers, books, or whatever...instead of stabbing him with bullshit, bring some of your evidence that IT WASNT!


as for me, i belive salisburyboy because he is showing proof and i know this because i lived in the middle east and saw the wars as did my parents and granparents that where living in palesine...

so for us here all we know is what the news tells us, but for those who are there and closer to that area, they know the partial truth and know what has happened...because over there the media tends to lie less than our media here.

7/24/2005 2:10:53 AM

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http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/region_wide/2005/07/11/83e33146-09af-4421-b2f4-1779a86926f9.lpf

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"He and Crystal were helped out of the carriage. As they made their way out, a policeman pointed out where the bomb had been. It was like a huge electricity surge which knocked us out and burst our eardrums.

"The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb was'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag," he said."


Get that?

"THE METAL WAS PUSHED UPWARDS AS IF THE BOMB WAS UNDERNEATH THE TRAIN."

7/24/2005 10:08:59 AM

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http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Commentary/1040.html

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"The "Magic Bomb" Theory

This is a story about disappearing terrorists, nonexistent bags, and botched investigations, but most of all, this is a story about magic bombs.

It's Crime Scene Investigation 101. It's the basic law of physics. It's so elementary, my dear Watson, that even a dancer who was dazed from the shock of being seated directly over the spot where one of the bombs was planted in the London tube carriage two weeks ago could figure it out.

In a seemingly innocuous article in the British newspaper Cambridge Evening News, 32 year-old dance instructor Bruce Lait, in an interview from his hospital bed, said that "The policeman said 'mind that hole, that's where the bomb was'. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag."

Read that last part again, very slowly, and let it sink in. "The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train." "They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don't remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag."

And the British authorities on the crime scene missed that, and just assumed that it was a carry-on bomb? C'mon, how many times have you seen that bad TV show where the eccentric detective figures out that the crime was an "inside job" because the glass was outside the broken window, not inside where it should have been. I repeat: Crime Scene Investigation 101. Basic physics. "

7/24/2005 5:03:55 PM

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Wait a minute, didn't you say just a few days ago that the bombs were in the rucksacks of the patsies?

Please pick a single conspiracy theory to push.

7/24/2005 9:09:05 PM

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"salisburyboy isnt bringing this from his head, HE IS DOING RESEARCH, and trying to find information unlike anyone of you numbnuts who arent or unable to find any evidence against him with online news papers, books, or whatever...instead of stabbing him with bullshit, bring some of your evidence that IT WASNT!


as for me, i belive salisburyboy because he is showing proof and i know this because i lived in the middle east and saw the wars as did my parents and granparents that where living in palesine..."


i just dont know what to say...i'm at a loss for words right now.

7/25/2005 8:54:23 AM

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"Wait a minute, didn't you say just a few days ago that the bombs were in the rucksacks of the patsies?"


No. I don't believe I ever said that.

7/25/2005 9:25:20 AM

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Ah yes, you separate yourself from what you post as to avoid constantly being wrong. Didn't you post articles a few days ago saying that the bombs were in the rucksacks of the patsies?

Please pick a single conspiracy theory to push.

7/25/2005 9:28:50 AM

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"Ah yes, you separate yourself from what you post as to avoid constantly being wrong"


that's like the creeto of a conspiracy theorist...that way they never see themselves as bein wrong and always thinking they know the "truth." its sad when 1 cant even defend the crap they post. i wonder if he even reads what he posts or just posts for the sake of it.

7/25/2005 9:41:17 AM

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"instead of stabbing him with bullshit, bring some of your evidence that IT WASNT!"

only, people have done this before and salisburybot never responds to the new evidence. he just ignores it or denies it. Whats the point in wasting your time trying to prove to a color-blind man that the sky is blue and not green

7/25/2005 12:19:39 PM

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http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/bombers_photo_doctored.htm

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"Photo of 'Bombers' has been Doctored: At Least one person has been superimposed

Prisonplanet | July 25 2005

Originally picked up on by citizens for legitimate Government, we now have further evidence to suggest that the above photo has been doctored."



TERROR ATTACK NUMEROLOGY
http://www.infowars.com/articles/London_attack/numerology_intel_op.htm

[Edited on July 25, 2005 at 2:10 PM. Reason : 1]

7/25/2005 2:05:02 PM

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So why is the organization that orchestrated the Cold War, 9/11, and the Iraq War so horrible at photoshop? I would think that such a secretive and well funded organization that has made so much progress towards world domination would be able to find someone who could come up with a better edit of that picture. It would be a shame if the whole thing came apart over such a tiny overlooked detail.

Or is it possible that the cheap digital security camera that took the pictures took a grainy image that can be interpreted in several different ways under close scrutiny?

Yeah, thats probably what it is. Keep swingin' little fella.

TERROR ATTACK NUMEROLOGY

So what exactly is that supposed to prove? I can connect any two dates with numbers and make an equally convincing case. (Well, convincing enough for the types of people who get their news from infowars.com)

[Edited on July 25, 2005 at 2:20 PM. Reason : .]

7/25/2005 2:14:46 PM

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