Quote :

"I don't see where you can even begin to make this comment. It's just stupid to think about. What is your justification to think nothing in the next 40-60 years can top this? "

Could it be topped? Sure. WILL it? I doubt it. When a company loses 5 million bucks PER CAR to make something this good, how many people or even companies can afford to drop that again?

That's not even taking into consideration how much they spent on damn R&D to make 50 cars that sold for a gigantic loss.

So yes, that's why I doubt anything will top it in the next 40-50 years. Sure someone will go faster, but not better.

4/27/2006 9:10:00 PM

Quote :

"wait why would bugatti wanna compete with the boxster? "

Because the Boxster brought Porsche back from near bankruptcy. And it's still one of their best selling vehicles, has very little competition, and isn't all that great.

4/27/2006 9:11:55 PM

"and isn't all that great"

Explain?

I had two complaints when I looked at one, one minor: the interior seemed a bit low rent for the price, and then one major: you can't see the engine from the top of the car - for something that I'm going to live with I need to be able to fix at least minor shit.

4/28/2006 7:32:22 AM

DROOL
DROOL
DROOL

Bugatti planning sedan; entry model rumors disputed

Quote :

"Bugatti is planning a four-door ultra-luxury sedan with a 950 hp engine, according to the latest issue of Dutch car magazine Autovisie. Only slightly less powerful than its 1000hp sibling — the Veyron — the new model will have a coupe-like profile, similar to the Mercedes CLS-Class and Porsche Panamera, the report said. Citing “extremely reliable” sources, the magazine said the $1 million+ sedan could arrive in the next four years. The aim of the project is to create an “extraordinary mix of a car and pure art,” the source said. The source further said rumors that Bugatti might build a five-figure entry-level roadster are nonsense. See a full sketch by Michiel van den Brink of how the car could look after the jump"

5/19/2006 2:15:57 PM

Bugatti planning $1.9 million targa Veyron

Quote :

"Bugatti will launch a new $1.9 million version of its Veyron supercar in 2008, according to a published report. The so-called Veyron Targa will receive a glass roof engineered by Webasto — the same German firm responsible for the folding roof on the Volkswagen Eos, according to Edmunds. Unlike the Porsche 911 Targa — which has a glass roof that retracts and is stowed onboard — the Veyron's roof panel will have to be removed by hand and kept in the garage. The reason for this shortcoming is the Veyron's tightly packed design, which leaves no room to store the panel. To compensate, the car will offer an expandable fabric cover that will slide in place of the glass and shield the interior from the elements. The report seems to suggests that, unlike the Porsche 911 Targa, the Bugatti will have no structural member connecting the windscreen to the pseudo c-pillar/roll-bar. Consequently, reinforcements will be added to the windscreen to maintain rollover safety, and other changes will be made to the underbody to maintain torsional stiffness. Bugatti will make up for the added weight by giving the car a carbon hood and doors — bringing the weight back to down to the coupe's level. While acceleration figures should remain unchanged, top speed will be electronically limited to 217 mph for safety reasons. The aerodynamics of the Targa model will not be suitable for the car's regular top speed of 250 mph, the report said."

7/29/2006 11:17:21 PM

Quote :

"The aerodynamics of the Targa model will not be suitable for the car's regular top speed of 250 mph, the report said.""

you'd get sucked out of the roof with the top out at 250mph

7/30/2006 12:48:33 PM

Artist's rendering of the Targa model:

8/3/2006 7:47:06 PM

i bet it was hard to chop the center section out of the roof for a fake picture

8/3/2006 11:05:58 PM

I bet you can shut the fuck up.

8/4/2006 8:09:33 AM

More speculation on a Buggatti sedan...

Quote :

"According to rumours, the noble make Bugatti – owned by Volkswagen – is planning to add a second model to its Veyron two-seater sports car. With this, Bugatti would follow the current trend of adding a coupe –like four door to the model range just like Porsche does with the upcoming Panamera and Mercedes with the CLS, the latter already being on the market. A Veyron-based Bugatti four door sedan in the style of a coupe would be the top of the line luxury car, affordable for the ultra rich only. Like with the Porsche Panamera, any real prototype of the four door has not been sighted in public yet. However, it is being suggested that the car gets power from a 8.0 litre 950 HP engine mounted up front – thus a little less than its 1000 HP Veyron mid-engined sibling . If the new Bugatti sedan comes on the market within the next four years, it is expected to cost at least 1.0 million US Dollars."

And some luscious artist's impressions:

8/10/2006 3:19:49 PM

that's one ugly car

8/10/2006 5:35:11 PM

if it didn't have '80s wheels on it, it would be the tits

8/11/2006 6:35:03 PM

the front looks... "sad" from the grill to the headlights.

8/12/2006 4:08:28 PM

bump

2/15/2007 10:31:25 AM

Quote :

"Looking at the placement of the engine in the bugatti, I bet you it's a bitch to change the sparkplugs"

take the engine out.



that's fantastic looking. i'd take one, and i don't like convertibles at all.

though the sedan could use some touching up, i'd still get it.

2/15/2007 11:58:13 AM

http://germancarscene.com/2007/03/05/aquaplaned-veyron/

3/6/2007 1:01:47 PM

It made it on BBC! (first known Veyron crash)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6423241.stm

It says it costs 800,000 GBP, which is $1.5 million+

One of only 12 in Britain.

I wonder if there is a breakdown on the internet of where all the Veyrons are (by country).







[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 6:49 AM. Reason : ]

3/8/2007 6:32:03 AM

Top Gear used one a couple episodes ago for a top-speed run

250mph+

3/8/2007 7:20:19 PM

hey, you gotta put down $400,000 as downpayment for them to start making one for you... so how come no one has thought of getting together a bunch of people, say 10 to 20, and ordering this car. even if i get to drive it for 1/20th time, i would still pitch in!

if 20 people pitch in, it would cost everybody just $70,000. if 30 people pitch in, it comes down to $47,000. and if 30 people pitch in, you get it for one day each month... i would say that's pretty good. for a car that only 300 people ever will get to drive, if any ordinary joe like one of use can get to drive it for 47k 12 times a year every year, there is no price for that!

what do y'all think? who is in?

some cool pics:






more: http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/country/ecf/newsID/2070309.001/bgtti/bugatti-veyron-on-course

3/9/2007 7:32:04 PM

what happened to that high-end cadillac that was supposed to come out of the Sixteen prototype right about next year or two?

3/9/2007 8:57:39 PM

You can easily double your money in 4-5 years. And during that time, you could rent it out. So, you get more than 100% back in 4-5 years.

3/10/2007 12:55:17 AM

^ what would be the fucking point of buying it if you can't drive it

^^ here is the latest on the sixteen (won't happen):

http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-caddy-serious-about-cts-coupe-wagon-sixteen-wont-happen.html

but this also:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/gm-could-use-zeta-platform-for-large-cadillac.html

3/10/2007 4:06:09 PM

Quote :

"Top Gear used one a couple episodes ago for a top-speed run 250mph+"

OMG, YOU ALL HAVE TO SEE THIS... YOU WON'T BELIEVE IT... SIMPLY AMAZING, AND OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!!

http://www.vxronline.co.uk/messageboard/viewtopic.php?t=4618





Those guys must have been paid a shit load of money for doing that!


[Edited on April 20, 2007 at 7:35 PM. Reason : you will never see anything like that anywhere else ever again... SO CLICK.]


DAMN

are those REFLECTION SHOTS at the end FOR REAL???




[Edited on April 20, 2007 at 7:47 PM. Reason : FILE ---> SAVE AS]

4/20/2007 7:24:36 PM

i forget where i saw a piece on that guy who does the "carwash" but it was something insane for his ultimate carwash/wax. i want to say $2k-$3k? the royale wax he uses was some crazy price too.

4/20/2007 10:56:45 PM

Veyron and F40 video

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/04/25/video-bugatti-veyron-and-ferrari-f40/

4/29/2007 9:32:17 PM

The most complete acceleration stats for the Veyron (compiled from different tests; quickest from each test):

0-60: 2.46 sec
0-100: 5.5 sec
0-125: 7.3 sec
0-150: 9.8 sec
0-188: 16.7 sec
0-200: 18.3 sec
0-250: 42.3 sec


And a couple of new for me pics here: http://www.leftlanenews.com/bugatti-veyron.html

6/26/2007 3:58:35 PM

what kinda faggot would start a stupid fuckin thread like this?

7/5/2007 8:39:31 PM

Sheikh Mohammad Bin Rashid Al Maktoum from the Emirates just bought the first Veyron, his license plate is also the most expensive one to have in the UAE. Its just '1'

9/17/2007 5:53:33 PM

FINALLY, FINALLY, FINALLY, i'm so sick of this Veyron talk. bye bye Veyron!



twin turbo V-8 SSC Ultimate Aero boasts an 387.2 cu.in. engine, rated at 1180 bhp @ 6950 rpm and 961 lb./ft. torque @ 6150 rpm. It also features 0-60 mph time of just 2.78 seconds

Quote :

"The car is the current record holder of the orld's fastest production car at 255.83 mph set on September 13, 2007 in West Richland, WA."

A twin-turbo V8 makes the quad-turbocharged W16 Veyron a fat pig. In your face OEP. I'm so sick of everyone moaning over the Veyron. The Ultimate Aero is sex on wheels.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SSC_Aero
http://www.shelbysupercars.com/

[Edited on September 17, 2007 at 6:15 PM. Reason : ]

9/17/2007 6:10:38 PM

and i'm sure its just as tame/easy to drive too

the veyron isn't a street legal race car.

9/17/2007 6:21:51 PM

but...what happened to all the class and style of the Veyron???

9/17/2007 6:35:30 PM

it appears to have been traded for a camera pod and a gtechpro thingy or is that a suction cup gps system ?

9/17/2007 6:38:36 PM

is that a corvettes steering wheel with red duct tape hiding the logo or something?

9/17/2007 6:39:19 PM

and a zip tie... don't forget the zip tie

9/17/2007 6:40:49 PM

Quote :

"i'm so sick of this Veyron talk"

Quote :

"In your face OEP"

Dude, you need to take a chill pill

Quote :

"A twin-turbo V8 makes the quad-turbocharged W16 Veyron a fat pig."

See, the Veyron weighs 4,200 lbs., whereas the SSC is 2,750 lbs. The Veyron is not just a dragster. You can drive your kid to school in it, do some gorcery shopping, drive in NYC, etc, and it will behave as manageable as the famed 911 does. IOW, an everyday supercar. Furthermore, the interior looks like the inside of a gorgeous fashionable house, with all the amenities and comfort features you can expect. As for the SSC, I am sure it behaves like the Diablo/Countach. IOW, not an everyday supercar.

And even though the Veyron weighs 50% more and has 15% less power than the SSC, somehow it still manages to beat it to 60 mph:

Quote :

"It also features 0-60 mph time of just 2.78 seconds"

The Veyron has been clocked at 2.46 seconds. And the SSC beat the Veyron's top speed by <3 mph, even with much less weight and more power.

The Veyron is an engineering marvel, whereas I surmise the SSC is not, being just a very powerful car designed to go very fast.

Quote :

"The Ultimate Aero is sex on wheels."

To each his own, but I would be willing to wager that the Veyron would win any "sex on wheels" contest. It looks like a handcrafted jewel, inside and out. The SSC, not a jewel, but a brutish mean looking monster (FTR, I like brutish looking cars, but they are *not* sexy by any stretch).

9/17/2007 6:47:04 PM

AWD FTW!

9/17/2007 7:34:11 PM

Really good article on the Veyron:

(I don't care about all the spiel about why sales are slow... I am talking about all the superlatives used to describe how it feels to be inside one when accelerating hard from rest; relevant excerpt below.)

http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/11/20/america/acabug.php

Sales are crawling at Bugatti for the world's fastest car

Quote :

"Depending on your prior exposure to big-horsepower cars, the initial second of acceleration might not seem out of the ordinary - even with all-wheel-drive, a car has only so much traction off the line, and a Porsche 911 Turbo can spin all four tires out of the gate, too. But quickly, almost too quickly for the brain to process, the Veyron speeds straight out of your frame of reference. Once the Veyron is hooked up and putting its 1,001 horsepower to the ground, there's no comparison that will help you understand it, unless you're a fighter pilot or a circus clown with extensive cannon experience. When you floor the throttle of the Veyron on the highway, the sensation is as if every other driver slammed on the brakes. Except they didn't. They are still cruising at highway speed, but you are blurring the space between the guardrails like an antiproton in a particle collider. In most cars, you expect a reduction in acceleration as you move up through the gears - longer gear ratios and aerodynamic drag eventually trump horsepower. But the Veyron is different. First gear is quick and violent. Second gear takes slightly longer but seems equally violent. By third gear, you're worried about your driver's license and your life, and the thrust shows no sign of relenting. Mission control, something is wrong. The booster rockets don't seem to be dropping off. So you hit the brakes and discover that they're excellent, but they are of the realm of mortal cars, unlike the motor. Thanks to active aerodynamics and the wonders of downforce, at higher speeds the Veyron's stopping and cornering power begin to approach the standard set by its go-power. But by higher speeds, I definitely mean faster than I cared to drive in suburban Connecticut. For example, if you hit the brakes and look in the rearview mirror to see the spoiler extended high and angled down in air-brake mode, you had better hope there are no police officers nearby, because that trick does not come out of the bag unless you are going at least 130 miles, or 210 kilometers, an hour - just over half of top speed."

Also interesting:

Quote :

""Ferrari would never build a car like this," he said. "They simply don't need to. They could give a car 700 horsepower and sell out a production run of 400. So why bother going to all the trouble to make it 1,000 horsepower? "Nobody else will ever make a car like this again. This will be the high point for cars powered by an internal combustion engine.""

11/26/2007 4:29:51 PM

^doubt it

11/26/2007 6:19:24 PM

http://www.autogespot.com/eng/index.php?id=66

Update: Bugatti Veyron Targa!

Quote :

"We are 100% sure that there will be a Spider/Targa. Bugatti has ordered 400 engines and it would be a waste of money to keep them in stock covered with dust. So this is a way to make some extra money instead of flushing it down the drain. More than 400 km/h with a convertible... who would ever thought that! According to our source that is not going to happen. The topspeed of this tarmac-eating monster will be limited at just 340 km/h. Not enough?.. Well when you've reached this speed you will definately have to visit a barber... There is only one minor problem. You can't take the Targa-panel with you when you want to drive open. The first open version of the Veyron has left the factory for testing. If you want to test this car, you have to own a normal Veyron. So it is quite expensive to drive this car. Next year the Veyron Spider/Targa will be on the public roads. If you want to have one, you are just too late. All the open Veyrons are sold already."

12/4/2007 5:58:28 PM

Wow, a Ferrari-red Bugatti!!!

Seeing Red: all-crimson Bugati Veyron up for sale

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/27/seeing-red-all-crimson-bugati-veyron-up-for-sale/

Quote :

"The exquisite two-tone paint schemes are just one of the many factors that make the Bugatti Veyron stand out, so how do you make yours stand out from the rest of them? Why, opt for a monochrome tint, of course. It seems so natural – cliché to some – to order a hyper-exotic supercar in bright red, yet this is the first Veyron we've seen decked out in this typically Ferrari color scheme: all red with a black leather interior. And it's for sale. Contact your financial advisors. "

If red x's: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/all-red-bugatti-veyron/608853/ (MUST SEE)

1/29/2008 5:40:13 AM

i like how the center knob says "DREAMS"

thanks for reminding me

1/29/2008 8:43:30 PM

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080202.001/bugatti-to-build-a-more-exclusive-car

Quote :

"Bugatti media communications manager Julius Kruta told Emirates Business that Veyron is not the end of the story, even though it so nearly became the end of VW itself. “Even though it is not economically viable for us, we will do it again,” said Kruta, “we have bigger plans for the future and the next one from our stables will be even more expensive than the Veyron.”"

DAMN!

And some speculation:

Large sedan
Small supercar
Small sedan

Quote :

"At this point there is no word to confirm the new super saloon will be called Lydia or Royale, after the classic 1927 example. What we do know is that Lydia/ Royale will be in addition to a smaller version of the Veyron, to be made to compete in the Ferrari F430/ Lamborghini Gallardo space. Then appears a smaller version of Royale itself, created to attack the Audi RS 6/ BMW M5/ Mercedes-Benz E AMG/ Cadillac CTS-V/ Jaguar XF-R/ Porsche Panamera Turbo crowd. "

2/5/2008 6:50:17 PM

supersport van?

2/5/2008 7:08:24 PM

Well maybe [they should], considering that the only type of passenger vehicle not yet available in a 'super-' version is the family van. Super-sedans, super-coupes, super-hatches, super-SUVs, super-trucks, and super-wagons all exist.

2/5/2008 7:30:48 PM

hah, that would be hilarious. It would be quite out of the box and a unique vehicle for sure. It better be able to traverse 200ft jumps for the moms to get their kids to soccer practice on time... How bout a transformer vehicle? It's a 4 bedroom house one min a car the next? or...

2/5/2008 8:17:55 PM

i would rather have a solid colored car instead of the stripe. i've always thought they looked out of place.

2/5/2008 9:44:47 PM

Over 1/5th of Bugatti Veyrons are in Dubai

Quote :

"You'd think that owning a car as expensive and exclusive as the Bugatti Veyron would ensure that seeing another one in your neighborhood would be an unlikely event. And it probably is for most of the 125 customers who've taken delivery of the hyper-exotic to date around the world. Except if you live in Dubai, where Bugatti has already sold no less than 15 of its million-dollar supercars, or 18.75% of Veyrons produced to date. With a population of about one and a half million in the oil-rich emirate – roughly the size of Phoenix, the fifth-largest city in the US – that means there's one Veyron for every 100,000 people. (By contrast, there are 27 Veyrons in the entire UK, population: 60 million). For those fifteen multi-millionaires, however, the flashy wheels might be the edge they need when you consider that there are a very un-Beach Boys-like three boys for every girl in Dubai."

[Edited on February 9, 2008 at 7:28 PM. Reason : ]

2/9/2008 7:16:57 PM

"Project Lydia"

(named after Ettore Bugatti's wife)

Supposedly the next model (a newer car has been officially confirmed, and also that it will be even more expensive) will be a bare-bones sports car, like the McLaren F1 or the Enzo.

Rumours:

1175 hp from Veyron engine
Target Nurburgring time of 6' 40''
Only 70 to be built
Cost anywhere from $2m to $3m

Here are some illustrations:







If red x's:

http://images.auto-motor-und-sport.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsams/2008/01/0sbyI7br_PeLhQ_450x300.jpg
http://images.auto-motor-und-sport.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsams/2008/01/2feprjHAOD3J1U_450x300.jpg
http://images.auto-motor-und-sport.de/hps/img/hxmedia/mpsams/2008/01/3feprjHAOD3J1U_450x300.jpg

Or

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/erlkoenige/hxcms_article_509453_14055.hbs

2/10/2008 1:48:16 AM

^ Project Lydia has been cancelled and Bugatti is working on a sedan.

**********************

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080221.010/jet-black-bugatti-veyron-for-sale-on-ebay

THE DEVIL'S OWN CAR



Jet Black Bugatti Veyron for Sale on eBay for $1,850,000!

2/21/2008 6:49:27 PM

I don't know much about cars. Someone please explain how a <$100,000 Ultima GTR beats a Veyron in pretty much all categories? Is it the lack of luxury and weight?

3/17/2008 7:40:10 PM