Probably a cig was dropped that caused the fire and those two guys, once the blood test come in, will probably be determined to be drunk at the time. Alot harder to get out when you are drunk.

isnt that the way it usually goes?

[Edited on October 8, 2005 at 10:27 PM. Reason : w]

10/8/2005 10:26:22 PM

there was a football game the night before, so yea theyd pry been drinking... but this was at 6/630am, the vast majority of the booze shoulda been outta their systems

[Edited on October 8, 2005 at 11:42 PM. Reason : also its a lot harder to get out when you cant breathe]

10/8/2005 11:39:23 PM

fuck that they didn't have a chance either way.... all I can say is that they were good kids and the fuckers that joked around about this........ i dont even know

10/9/2005 12:51:37 AM

eh.

[Edited on October 9, 2005 at 12:52 AM. Reason : s]

10/9/2005 12:51:59 AM

10/9/2005 5:43:26 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/2813462p-9259359c.html

Quote :

"Victims known as smart, dedicated Family, friends mourn students By SUE STOCK, Staff Writer As Saturday dawned, the fire that killed two N.C. State University students had been extinguished, but the smell of smoke lingered on the air. For friends and family of Mark Brandon Davis and Dylan Cody Pilkington, reality had just started to sink in. "It just kills me to know that he couldn't get out, because he was so big and unstoppable," said Davis' former girlfriend Vicki Herbert, 21. Davis and Pilkington were members of the Sigma Alpha Mu fraternity. The were killed early Friday when a fire tore through the Raleigh duplex where they and six other fraternity members lived. A third student was injured jumping from a second-floor window. Davis, 22, would have graduated in December with a degree in materials science and engineering. His 6-foot frame and wide build earned the High Point native the nickname "Moose." Friends and co-workers described him as energetic, smart and sincere. "He was, in my mind, one of the best mechanically sound undergraduates in our lab," said Christopher Oldham, a doctoral student who worked with Davis. "He was just so good with his hands and thinking through how things worked." Davis was naturally curious, said Dick Guarnieri, research professor in Davis' lab. "When a job was done, rather than just wait to be told to do something," he said, "he would always push and take on something that was beyond his capability so that he could learn." Davis planned to apply to graduate school, said professor Jerry Cuomo, who both advised Davis academically and employed him in his lab for two years. "He wanted to learn more science," Cuomo said. "If you watch, you can see students grow from the seed to a bud and then to a flower, and he was in the flowering stage right now." Cuomo recalled the day this past summer when Davis told him he planned to apply to graduate school. "One day, he came into my office, and he said, 'You finally convinced me.' I asked him where he wanted to go, and he said, 'Here. I want you to be my mentor.' " Pilkington, 19, was a junior volunteer firefighter and a Boy Scout. He grew up in Grifton and was a sophomore mechanical engineering major at N.C. State. "Cody was a very intelligent guy," said the Rev. David Cox, pastor at Pilkington's church, First Christian Church of Grifton. "But he was also a fun guy. He wasn't the kind that has difficulty blending with groups and all." Before heading to college, he attended Ayden-Grifton High School in Grifton and later the N.C. School of Science and Math in Durham. His volunteer spirit and work ethic should become his legacy, said Cox, who baptized Pilkington and his brother when they were infants. "He wasn't perfect, but few of us are," Cox said. "If other students can learn about him, emulate his life, maybe that's the good of this bad situation." "

10/9/2005 2:36:54 PM

I knew Cody. We were hallmates back at NCSSM. Buddies and whatnot.

It's a little early to be going to friends' funerals.

10/10/2005 2:04:17 AM

I was in the basement on the side that the fire broke out on, all I can say is this has truly been the worst ordeal any of us have ever faced, it's not easy to say goodbye to two of your best friends. Regardless, please do your best to keep all of us in your prayers...

10/10/2005 2:58:35 AM

does anybody know when and where the services are gonna be?

10/10/2005 8:17:57 AM

2:00pm this afternoon.

745 Davenport Farm Rd, Winterville, NC.

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=from%3A+raleigh,+nc+to%3A+745+NC-1128,+Winterville,+NC&f=d&hl=en)

[Edited on October 10, 2005 at 9:46 AM. Reason : Funky markup]

10/10/2005 9:45:50 AM

ive been looking in the http://www.newsobserver.com and http://www.news-record.com obituaries for brandons and theres only a one liner in the N&O today about him, and the funeral home listed doesnt have him in their obituaries records yet. (http://www.brownwynne.com/tributes.php)

Quote :

"MARK B. DAVIS, 22, 128 Groveland Avenue, Raleigh, Oct. 7. Arrangements by Brown-Wynne Funeral Home, St. Mary's Street. "

http://www.kinston.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=31106&Section=Obituaries

Quote :

"Dylan C. Pilkington October 09,2005 BY Staff Reports GRIFTON - Dylan Cody Pilkington, 19, joined his Nana and Pa Johnson on Oct. 7, 2005 as a result of a house fire in Raleigh, N.C. Cody was a sophomore at N.C. State University majoring in Mechanical Engineering. He was a member of Sigma Alpha Mu fraternity while at NCSU. Cody was a high school student at Ayden-Grifton High School and graduated from the N.C. School of Science and Math in Durham, N.C. He was a former Boy Scout of Troop 24 of Grifton and a former junior volunteer firefighter on the Grifton Volunteer Fire Department. He was a member of First Christian Church of Grifton. Cody was an exceptional young man who was enjoying life and his girlfriend Connie Griffin of Erwin, N.C. He will be missed by everyone who knew him. Services will be held at Christ Church, Davenport Farm Road, Winterville, N.C. on Monday, Oct. 10 at 2 p.m. Services will be conducted by the Rev. David Cox and the Rev. Tim Turner. Interment will follow at Evergreen Memorial Estates in Grifton, N.C. The family will receive friends Sunday, Oct. 9, from 5 to 8 p.m. at Farmer Funeral Home, Ayden, N.C. and other times at their home. He is survived by his parents, Pam and Ivey Pilkington of Grifton; his brother, Kinsey Tate Pilkington of the home; his half-brother, Christopher Jacob Pilkington of Cochran, Ga.; grandparents, Bobbi and Danny Brown of Grifton; Jack and Helen Pilkington of Grifton, and a wonderful large family of aunts, uncles, cousins and very special friends. For those who do not wish to send flowers, please send contributions to the Cody Blue Pilkington Scholarship Fund, c/o First Christian Church, 103 W. Queen St., Grifton, N.C. 28530. You may email your condolences to Farmercondolence@aol.com. (Paid obituary) "

[Edited on October 10, 2005 at 11:29 AM. Reason : Cody's]

[Edited on October 10, 2005 at 11:30 AM. Reason : .]

10/10/2005 11:23:22 AM

wow! that facebook post on Cody's wall from his girlfriend is pretty touching

10/10/2005 12:41:53 PM

hmmm, i lived with brandon for a year and had him for a chem partner

oh well, sux

10/10/2005 1:03:08 PM

next it'll be bombs

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=70306

10/10/2005 1:09:42 PM

^^^i think that post you're thinking of is from his mom posting under his gf's name, but yeah i was crying like a baby after reading that.

10/10/2005 4:41:39 PM

can someone copy and paste these posts here...i don't have facebook and can't sign up for it either.

10/10/2005 5:07:24 PM

Schlegel like fire

[Edited on October 10, 2005 at 5:16 PM. Reason : f]

10/10/2005 5:13:17 PM

I knew Jason Pfister. He was a freshman in the same high school when I was a senior.

He broke his pelvis in the fall. Guess he wont be playin soccer anytime soon.

10/10/2005 6:03:28 PM

http://brownwynne.mem.com/display/biography.asp?ID=1027575

Quote :

" Mark Brandon Davis Born: November 8, 1982 Died: October 7, 2005 Memorialized by: Brown-Wynne Funeral Home, Raleigh, NC Mark Brandon Davis Mark Brandon Davis, 22, who was born November 8, 1982, was tragically taken from us on October 7, 2005 as a result of a house fire in Raleigh. Brandon was a senior at NCSU majoring in material engineering and was planning to attend graduate school at NCSU. He was a member of Sigma Alpha Mu Fraternity while at NCSU. To those of his “NCSU Family” who had the priviledge to share in his everyday love of life, he was known as “Moose”. He was a graduate of Grimsley High School in Greensboro, where he excelled in Academics and sports. He was a pole vaulter and enjoyed playing golf and racketball. He was a member of Oakview United Methodist Church in High Point, NC. A memorial service will be be held 1 pm Wedneday at Brown-Wynne Funeral Home, Saint Mary’s Street. A gathering, planned by the Greek Council, will follow the memorial service. The location of the gathering will be announced at the service. He is survived by his parents, Joni and Bob McMillan of New Bern, NC; grandparents, Ruth and Joe Misenheimer of High Point, NC; aunt and uncle Terri and Grant Blizzard and cousins, Lindsey and Dalton Blizzard all of Beulaville, NC. He will also be missed by his dachshunds, Houston, Elvis and Lilli. In lieu of flowers, contributions may be made to the NC State Engineering Foundation, Box 7901, NCSU, Raleigh, NC 27695-7901."

[Edited on October 10, 2005 at 7:51 PM. Reason : .]

10/10/2005 7:50:36 PM

i saw the chancellor speak today

he had a moment of silence for them

10/10/2005 8:02:26 PM

Actually, its the rent for frat court that forced them off. Two other chapters have had to go off campus because they could not afford it. You need to have every room at capacity and you will still pay more per person than a dorm or apartment. Good luck getting your entire chapter to live in house

[Edited on October 10, 2005 at 9:16 PM. Reason : j]

10/10/2005 9:12:00 PM

ok, from what i remember of this 3 years ago : it was issues with greek life, rent, and they wanted to be off court

10/10/2005 9:13:26 PM

Its just so horrible that this happened.

10/10/2005 9:21:37 PM

wasn't there any window? i would have jumped off from the second floor.

10/10/2005 11:34:21 PM

one of the guys did

10/11/2005 8:27:13 AM

you cant just jump out a window if you are asleep and you wake up suffocating...

the people speculating about "wonder if they were drunk" are being completely ridiculous.

ive gone to bed after drinking about a thousand times, and not once did i wake up dying of asphyxiation. Im willing to bet you havent either.

10/11/2005 3:20:39 PM

as for the windows, after seeing them today, a lot of the windows didnt even look big enough for a guy brandons size to get out of easily

10/12/2005 8:04:36 PM

i know the name Mark Brandon Davis from somewhere, but i can't figure out where.

10/12/2005 8:08:27 PM

Quote :

"Burning Cigarette Cause Of Fatal N.C. State House Fire, Officials Say POSTED: 8:56 am EDT October 25, 2005 UPDATED: 11:09 pm EDT October 25, 2005 RALEIGH, N.C. -- Raleigh fire investigators said Tuesday that a smoldering cigarette was to blame for a fatal house fire that killed two fraternity members at North Carolina State University earlier this month. Mark Brandon Davis of Raleigh, a senior majoring in materials science engineering, and Dylan Pilkington of Grifton, a sophomore majoring in mechanical engineering, died Oct. 7 at a duplex on Groveland Avenue, which is just off Oberlin Road. Both were members of the Sigma Alpha Mu fraternity. The night before the fire, investigators said there had been a small gathering in the lower floor of the house, a game room, where eight fraternity members had been watching an N.C. State football game. Authorities believe that someone had left the cigarette burning. Investigators said the victims likely died from smoke inhalation while trying to escape the duplex. A third fraternity brother, Jason Pfister, of Greensboro, was able to jump from a second-floor window. He suffered broken bones."

Hopefuly someting good will come out of this and make people think about fire safety. If your alarm chips put a new battery in it don't disconect it. Carefuly put out cigs esp when throwing them into yards. A fire started on brent rd several years ago b/c a cig was thown into pine straw. be safe.....

10/25/2005 11:50:32 PM

god dammit, i could have fucking told them thats what caused it - cause thats what ive figured it was since i heard

[Edited on October 26, 2005 at 12:08 AM. Reason : fuck, guys, fuck fuck fuck]

10/26/2005 12:06:00 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/2824364p-9273619c.html

Quote :

"Fire caused by lit cigarette By MATTHEW EISLEY, Staff Writer A lit cigarette left on a cloth sofa apparently started a fraternity apartment fire that killed two N.C. State University students and injured a third earlier this month, Raleigh fire officials say. The fire smoldered for a couple of hours, producing dark, lethal smoke before erupting in the game room of an off-campus duplex off Oberlin Road near NCSU’s Bell Tower, Raleigh Fire Marshal Larry Stanford said Tuesday afternoon. “You wonder why,” Stanford said. “Why, why, why. This could have been avoided. But it’s hard to eliminate the human element.” The early-morning fire Oct. 7 killed Cody Pilkington, 19, of Grifton, and Brandon “Moose” Davis, 22, of High Point. The third student, Jason Pfister of Greensboro, is recovering from an injury he sustained when he jumped from a second-story window. Investigators couldn't determine who left the cigarette behind, Stanford said. There will be no criminal charges, he said."

of course they dont know who left it behind, hell it was just as likely it was brandons (i dunno if corey smoked, since i didnt know him) fucking cigarette that wasnt all the way out

god fucking dammit

10/26/2005 12:11:17 AM

10/26/2005 12:13:19 AM

shit's scary

10/26/2005 12:15:22 AM

my great enlightening revelation in the last 5 min: it does no fucking good to be mad at someone whos not here anymore for something that cant be changed - which just makes me madder because he isnt here anymore and that didnt have to be the case

10/26/2005 12:22:04 AM

durrrrrrr.

10/26/2005 12:25:17 AM

thanks, that was helpful

10/26/2005 12:26:37 AM

son of a bitch, didn't know what started the fire till just now

cody didn't smoke or drink as far as i know... great guy, he'll be missed

10/26/2005 12:52:28 AM

In case anyone is curious, there is going to be a memorial for Cody at S&M
Email from Alumni Listserv

Quote :

" As many of you have heard, Cody Pilkington ’04 died in a fire this month. We are planning a memorial service for him here at NCSSM, planting a tree that can be seen from his senior dorm room and sharing our memories of his exuberant personality with his family and friends. Since he was away from his family for two years while at NCSSM, his family indicated that they would appreciate seeing photos and stories of Cody’s life at NCSSM. If you have photos of Cody or stories about Cody, would you send them to me? I will compile them in an appropriate format and give them to his family at the service. Thank you, Jon Davis ('88) Jon Davis Biology Instructor The North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics P.O. Box 2418, Durham, NC 27715 (919) 416-2642 | davisjp_at_ncssm.edu "

I'd suggest contacting Jon Davis about the date and time.

10/26/2005 9:26:56 AM

^^^seriously where the fuck do you come up w/ your shit, corey? There was no corey there...christ I'm so sick of people talking about shit they don't know.

[Edited on October 27, 2005 at 3:43 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on October 27, 2005 at 3:43 AM. Reason : .]

10/27/2005 3:42:57 AM

sorry, i knew brandon, not cody
it was late and i was upset, sue me

10/27/2005 8:16:41 AM

http://www.wral.com/news/5552459/detail.html

Alcohol Linked In Fatal Raleigh Frat Fire

12/18/2005 11:31:03 PM

you absolutely have to be kidding me

shame on you, you fucking niggers (wral, that is)

[Edited on December 18, 2005 at 11:33 PM. Reason : d]

12/18/2005 11:32:43 PM

its not like they're reporting lies

12/18/2005 11:36:32 PM

Quote :

"Autopsy reports show Davis died from smoke inhalation, but he also had a blood alcohol content of 0.11. Fire investigators say that may have slowed his reaction time and made it harder for him to get out of the house."

if he was a 4 year old girl, then maybe

12/18/2005 11:37:27 PM

fuck the fire department for saying that, maybe. but wral is reporting facts.

also, passed out at 0.11 is probably a much bigger factor than being awake at 0.11

12/18/2005 11:38:33 PM

WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????


ALCOHOL? NEVER! THESE KIDS WERE ANGELS

12/18/2005 11:41:11 PM

Quote :

"Pilkington had no alcohol in his system."

12/18/2005 11:42:44 PM

there was a FOOTBALL GAME on that night, of COURSE there was booze in his system, jesus

and brandon was a big guy and could handle his booze, so .11 isnt shit

12/19/2005 1:19:40 AM

it doesnt matter how big he is
it just means he drank more to get there

12/19/2005 1:21:39 AM

^^aahaha thats why i think rjrgrl is one of the funniest poster on this website

and she doesnt mean to be

12/19/2005 1:28:43 AM