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10/19/2005 2:35:10 PM

http://www.rainn.org/docs/statistics/2003facts.pdf

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"One in six American women has been the victim of an attempted or completed rape. About 10% of sexual assault victims are men."

10/19/2005 2:42:17 PM

most of those attempted rapes probably were just guesses. if he didnt rape, how can it be said he was going to?

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 2:44 PM. Reason : =]

10/19/2005 2:44:15 PM

i hope that you people find yourself at a party with bubba joe who proceeds to get you so drunk you cant move before sliding his blistered penis into your ass

and then i hope that everyone accuses you of making it up for regretting it

10/19/2005 2:46:31 PM

^add that to the list of reasons why i ♥ jon

10/19/2005 2:48:34 PM

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"i hope that you people find yourself at a party with bubba joe who proceeds to get you so drunk you cant move before sliding his blistered penis into your ass"

I can see no plausable reason why anyone would need to be in this situation in the first place. Dont get drunk, wow what a concept.

10/19/2005 2:56:04 PM

cause if you are anywhere with alcohol and get raped its your fault

your consent is implied until you start screaming no and claw their eyes

10/19/2005 2:57:32 PM

I know this is off topic but how much would a siberian huskey pup cost im just wondering

10/19/2005 2:58:55 PM

mine was 200

10/19/2005 3:01:07 PM

No, the point of this arguement is that she was intoxicated (in the artically) she wasnt mearly "near alcohol" she was crunk drunk. So I say again, why get drunk in the first place?

10/19/2005 3:02:15 PM

because clearly if you are drunk your consent is implied and anything that happens to you is your fault

10/19/2005 3:03:47 PM

thats not the question. read again:

why get drunk in the first place?

10/19/2005 3:05:51 PM

some people drink socially

i dont think theres anything wrong with it

10/19/2005 3:07:16 PM

drinking socially is one thing. getting drunk is another. know your limits. like I said, I see no reason why any person should get drunk.

10/19/2005 3:08:22 PM

youve never been to WWII

10/19/2005 3:09:08 PM

it doesnt matter why she got drunk

10/19/2005 3:09:46 PM

but if someone is still learning their limits
or maybe just messes up and gets drunk
or maybe gets wasted every day

its ok to rape them

got it... thanks for clearing that up for me

10/19/2005 3:10:15 PM

Ok, it seems that, for this case, the first link is that she was drunk. Now, that seems to be the first link in alot of things, not just rapes, but wrecks, shootings, etc....

so I ask again, WHY GET DRUNK? You prove that you do not have high self control or common sense if you do AND put yourself in compromising situations.

if your "learning your limits" do it at home or something, not Joe Blows 100+ person apartment party where you know 2 people.

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"maybe just messes up and gets drunk"

yeah, right. Opps, I slipped and got drunk. Would be like saying "Opps he slipped and his penis went in her"

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"maybe gets wasted every day"

then natural selection will take care of them soon enough, and they wont be able to function as a normal party of society for very long.

I did not say anywhere that it was ok to rape someone btw.

10/19/2005 3:16:22 PM

if you arent implying that being drunk makes it your fault for getting raped then theres no point discussing why would you get drunk

if theres no connection its a completely seperate issue

i applaud your attempt at changing the subject because it just makes you look like an insensitive douche, but if you really want to discuss why people drink make a thread about it

10/19/2005 3:18:54 PM

i hope some big man shoves a broom handle up this guys uppity ass

10/19/2005 3:20:05 PM

well, there really was no subject to the thread really, it just devolved into a pissing contest as to whether she deserved it or not.

and all I gotta say about that is the courts will decide, thats what they are there for.

10/19/2005 3:21:54 PM

no you didnt let the court decide

you pretty much said she deserved it

10/19/2005 3:23:18 PM

show me where I said that.

10/19/2005 3:24:25 PM

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"can see no plausable reason why anyone would need to be in this situation in the first place. Dont get drunk, wow what a concept."

dumb peice of shit

10/19/2005 3:25:26 PM

if that translates to you that "she deserved it" then you need to evaluate your comment for yourself.

my point was dont get drunk. as getting drunk seems to be the catalyst for alot of these things.

10/19/2005 3:26:53 PM

i bet you think women should also just go ahead and cover their whole bodies so they dont have to worry about getting raped

10/19/2005 3:29:15 PM

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"i hope that you people find yourself at a party with bubba joe who proceeds to get you so drunk you cant move before sliding his blistered penis into your ass"

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"I can see no plausable reason why anyone would need to be in this situation in the first place. Dont get drunk, wow what a concept."

yeah, women should never drink because everyone knows that men go into a raping frenzy whenever there are drunken chicks around, a lot like when a shark smells blood in the water.

10/19/2005 3:31:04 PM

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"Stay On-Topic - Try to stick with the topic. If you have something important to say that doesn't relate to the topic, then start a new topic. If you have something useless to say, keep it to yourself. "

10/19/2005 3:31:46 PM

I think people should not get drunk, as it spurs alot of this shit. Is that too hard of a concept for you to understand, or do you just like putting words in my mouth to hear yourself talk, cause you sound like a fucking retard.

Do you think the "rape" would have happened if alcohol was not involved, given the other evidence (college kids, prolly a party, etc...)? yes or no?

10/19/2005 3:33:01 PM

can you just admit you are a worhtless peice of shit and stop trying to use your errant logic

10/19/2005 3:36:38 PM

i agree. if you dont wanna get raped, dont get drunk.

10/19/2005 3:38:40 PM

i dont think that guy on page 2 is him...hes not 19 and not from clinton

its this guy http://ncst.facebook.com/profile.php?id=11816163

10/19/2005 3:40:09 PM

exactly. getting drunk catalyzes alot of this shit. thats my point.

but mister big head jon thinks that means I think girls deserve to get raped? at least my logic makes sense dude.

10/19/2005 3:40:18 PM

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"poor guy. guess he wasnt hot as fuck"

heh

I didn't read all of the thread but why can't he try and charge her with sexual assault (since a male can't be raped in NC) ? If I was in his situation and innocent, I would do it.

10/19/2005 3:44:39 PM

^^your first post blamed the girl for putting herself in that situation, so yes, you said she deserved it

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 3:45 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2005 3:45:19 PM

I think he can do that if he is found guilty? but wouldnt make much sense if hes innocent, but says he was sexually assaulted. I would think it would be counter intuitive to his case.

10/19/2005 3:46:24 PM

jesus fucking christ people. my first post was on the first fucking page for one. for another I was responding to this comment:

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" "i hope that you people find yourself at a party with bubba joe who proceeds to get you so drunk you cant move before sliding his blistered penis into your ass" "

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"I can see no plausable reason why anyone would need to be in this situation in the first place. Dont get drunk, wow what a concept."

If you read what I typed it says "in this situation" which is in response to the first quote, which HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FUCKING RAPE IN THE TITLE OF THE THREAD.

so again, please, tell me how the fuck I say "she deserves it".

10/19/2005 3:52:29 PM

a better title for this thread would have been "Rampant Speculation"

that said, it's the same thing that always happens in threads like this, so i should have expected it.

10/19/2005 3:53:49 PM

Some one post of pic of this guy...the link isnt working for me

10/19/2005 3:56:22 PM

omg its Zepher. where have u been? I forget what class we sat next to together and did crosswords all semester, some SOC class or something.

10/19/2005 3:58:18 PM

Ha, I have been around...working and being in the real world now

10/19/2005 4:00:44 PM

Someone post the picture of this kid

10/19/2005 4:01:59 PM

I hear ya. Im playing the "Im looking for a job" card for while.

and im out. got shit to do but not really.

10/19/2005 4:02:34 PM

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"Do you think the other thousand people on this site want to read some personal shit between you and your buddy? - NO. Use mail instead. "

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 4:04 PM. Reason : a]

10/19/2005 4:03:49 PM

Those Crazy Redheads

10/19/2005 4:05:09 PM

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"§ 14-27.3. Second-degree rape. (a) A person is guilty of rape in the second degree if the person engages in vaginal intercourse with another person: (1) By force and against the will of the other person; or (2) Who is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless, and the person performing the act knows or should reasonably know the other person is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless."

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"§ 14-27.5. Second-degree sexual offense. (a) A person is guilty of a sexual offense in the second degree if the person engages in a sexual act with another person: (1) By force and against the will of the other person; or (2) Who is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless, and the person performing the act knows or should reasonably know that the other person is mentally disabled, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless."

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"its a classic case of the state "overcharging" a crime so that they can get a plea bargain. he's gonna go to court and the DA is going to be "nice" and "offer" him a "deal" where they can drop one of the charges if he pleads guilty to the other. total bullshit."

she probably gave him a blowjob beforehand, and they are charging him with the Second-degree sexual offense for that.

10/19/2005 4:06:16 PM

Well, maybe guys will learn not to have sex with drunk/buzzed/tanked/lit girls at parties. Seriously. Think about some consequences before you loose blood flow to your head.



And you assholes who are flaming this girl for going to the police... Why on earth does the alleged rapist get the "innocent until proven guilty" card. She doesn't get the same respect?

10/19/2005 4:18:54 PM

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"Why on earth does the alleged rapist get the "innocent until proven guilty" card."

The US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

10/19/2005 4:20:49 PM

he should counter sue for defamation of character

10/19/2005 4:24:59 PM

^^i think what lil pig is saying is that people are saying that this guy is innocent until proven guilty but the same people that are saying that are saying she is guilty of falsely accusing him/regretting afterward/etc.

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"you guys are a bunch of jerks. innocent until proven guilty doesnt mean blame the woman. this is probably one of the main reasons women dont come forward when something like this happens. you should be fucking ashamed. "

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 4:29 PM. Reason : er]

10/19/2005 4:29:41 PM