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"I don't put animals on the same plane as humans but I recognize and respect that they are living beings. I eat meat but I guess I'll compromise and not get the 'meat lovers' pizzas"

many great cultures throughout history have respected animals more than us and still had no problem eating meat
they would take time to thank the animal for giving its life to feed them

11/10/2005 10:31:29 AM

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"PETA Protesters Defend Mass Animal Euthanasia CNS News 11/10/05 Nathan Burchfiel An animal rights activist on Wednesday defended PETA's involvement in the killing of an estimated 12,000 animals that had been taken in as strays. But the issue deflected attention away from a PETA demonstration in front of the U.S. Department of Agriculture meant to protest the sale of chicken products. Partially clad PETA demonstrators laid in coffins for one hour while other protesters, some in chicken and turkey costumes, held signs reading, "Bird Flu Kills: Go Vegetarian." The three women in the coffins were dressed in underwear and covered themselves with flowers to avoid being arrested for indecent exposure. "We want people to know that a vegetarian diet is the safest diet in light of bird flu being transmitted through eating chicken, turkey and eggs," said PETA Campaign Coordinator Chris Link. He said the people in the coffins demonstrated "the importance of taking these actions against bird flu." But when demonstrators from the conservative Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) showed up minutes into the protest, Link and other PETA protesters had to respond to the claims that the animal rights group "kills animals." The counter-protesters held signs reading "PETA Kills Animals" and set up their own coffin with one protestor dressed as a dog and another pretending to inject it with a giant ooze-filled syringe. The conservatives handed out brochures that outlined the June arrest of two PETA employees for placing the carcasses of 31 animals into a dumpster. The two employees face felony animal cruelty charges in North Carolina in November. "PETA's out here claiming falsely that you can get bird flu from eating chicken even though scientists tell us that's not the case," said CCF Director of Research David Martosko. "They're just trying to scare people." Martosko said his group copied PETA's tactic of using coffins "to tell the public that PETA ought to use those coffins to give a proper burial to the thousands of animals they've actually killed." According to the CCF's fliers, PETA "killed over 80 percent of the flesh-and-blood animals it took in" in 2004 and has euthanized more than 12,400 animals since 1998. Link did not dispute the charges, but defended his group's actions. "[A]t this point because of the overpopulation, because enough people aren't spaying and neutering animals and they're over-breeding ... at this point it is in their best interest to be euthanized," Link said. "If they would have died at that shelter they would have been inhumanely gassed with CO2," Link said. "So the way that we did it was humane. We mainly euthanized them." Link added that PETA does not "support dumping animals the way that they were disposed of, but they were killed in a humane way." He also questioned the CCF's legitimacy, calling the group "a mouthpiece for the restaurant and big businesses that exploit animals." Martosko shot back, accusing PETA of trying to stifle his free speech rights. "They want to monopolize things and tell everybody else's free speech that it's not as important as theirs. And in fact they've tried to sic the police on us to tell us we don't have the right to speak here on a street corner." Martosko's group originally lined up in the middle of the PETA demonstration in an attempt to get its "PETA Kills Animals" sign visible in photographs and video being taken of the PETA coffins. Police later separated the two groups at PETA's request, moving the CCF display a few yards away. Police maintained that distance between members of the rival organizations who tried to hand out documents to passersby during the hour-long protest. There were no cases of violence and no arrests were made."

11/10/2005 10:50:30 AM

"do NOT fuck with a vegan...because those fuckers are HUNGRYYYYYYYY!!!"

11/10/2005 10:56:54 AM

wait wait wait

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""PETA's out here claiming falsely that you can get bird flu from eating chicken even though scientists tell us that's not the case," said CCF Director of Research David Martosko. "They're just trying to scare people.""

not to ignore the rest of your article, earthdogg, but you CAN get bird flu from eating chicken. The chicken has to be infected, but I don't get why they thought that wasn't how you get the flu

11/10/2005 10:58:02 AM

no, you cant get bird flu from eating chicken

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 11:25 AM. Reason : assuming you, like everyone else, cooks your meat]

11/10/2005 11:24:13 AM

it amazes me that people give a shit about the quality of life of a chicken.

11/10/2005 11:33:13 AM

Thanks BluBalls... it was Norman Borlaug.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug

One of the most incredible men to have ever lived.

11/10/2005 11:48:42 AM

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""To produce a pound of protein, it takes 1065 gallons of water for soybeans, 1490 gallons for corn and a whopping 3,000 to 5,000 gallons for meat. Not so amazingly, more than half of the water consumed in the U.S. each year is used up in factory animal farming! If you are concerned about world hunger, consider these comparisons--twenty vegetarians can be fed on the land needed to feed one person consuming a meat-based diet. If Americans reduce their meat intake by only 10%, 60 million people (the number of people who will starve to death this year) could be adequately fed by the grain saved, because for the feed cost of an 8 oz. steak, 45 to 50 people could each have a full cup of cooked cereal grains." from here:http://people.qualcomm.com/sriharid/info/vegetarianism/veg.html"

To briefly touch on that subject again...we already have enough fucking people on this planet, we don't need anymore.

Oh yeah and last night I had a delicious Kobe Steak, and tonight I'm having Weinerschnitzel. I could never give up my meat.

I you meat!

11/10/2005 12:46:52 PM

I can't wait till I can get my Colorado hunting license, because


and


are really tasty.

11/10/2005 2:52:48 PM

I don't even know what the fuck that last one is, but I bet its delicious!

11/10/2005 3:47:44 PM

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"boy, I sure am glad that I'm not a meat-hating fascist"

Chosing not to eat make doesn't make us fascists. When you see the heathy section on a menu do you thank the lord you aren't a fat-hating fascist? No, that's moronic.

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"Well here's something that not many vegetarians know (or care to acknowledge): every year millions of animals are killed by wheat and soy bean combines during harvesting season (source)."

Uh, all sorts of other processes involved in modern daily life kill millions of animals too. Driving, for example. Any veggie who doesn't realize that animals still die because of the the things they do obviously hasn't thought much on the subject.

Also obviously, far fewer animals are killed in harvesting wheat and soy than are killed for meat. Killing less still seems better than killing more.

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"Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak"

I have never heard any veggie tell people they were going to hell for eating meat. Ever.

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"good point, except for the fact that not every plot of land is equally fertile; you think farmers always have a choice on what they do with their land?"

Yeah, yeah. Meat still uses more resources.

In sum, that article is bullshit.

[Edited on November 10, 2005 at 4:05 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/10/2005 4:05:23 PM

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11/10/2005 4:24:46 PM

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"Thanks BluBalls... it was Norman Borlaug."

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"One of the most incredible men to have ever lived."

You got that right, its amazing what hes done and theres still people
bitching because "they" dont think its right

11/10/2005 4:38:55 PM

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"Yeah, yeah. Meat still uses more resources. In sum, that article is bullshit."

not always

11/10/2005 5:03:44 PM

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"not always"

They eat grain, don't they? Unless they produce as much food as they take in they're less efficient.

11/10/2005 8:25:31 PM