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10/24/2006 7:27:15 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if the people giving this guy money so he can put commercials on the air are all Democrats.

10/25/2006 7:59:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHEDNTJCVM4
crybaby Miller

10/27/2006 1:15:39 AM

This clown was on Brad and Britt yesterday morning. I pity anyone that seriously considers voting for this guy. I wanted to call in and ask if he was going to personally go and help build the 700 mile fence to fuel his xenophobia. He repeated the same rehersed garbage over and over without actually answering a question. He totally appeals to the lowest common deonominator so of couse Randy loves him.

10/27/2006 7:49:50 AM

All he talks about is homosexuals and Mexicans. I don't understand how someone so unbecoming of a politician manages to run that high profile of a campaign. Anybody who questions whether the republicans will have a poor showing this year needs to ask themselves why the Republicans couldn't come up with better.

He has no chance of winning over any moderates. He has no chance at the business republicans. He has no chance at the log cabin Republicans. Most of the people who support his ignorant positions would never vote for someone black. He raised ~85% of his money out of state. That should speak volumes about his support in the district he's running in (which he doesn't live in and he's previously ran for other districts).

10/27/2006 11:59:59 AM

The thing about the Helms comparison, I don't think Helms sounded nearly as ignorant or xenophobic when you take into account the way things were when he said them. Also, Helms occassionally listened to reason, like when Bono convinced him that it was both good policy and righteous for the gov't to help fight HIV/AIDS.

10/27/2006 12:10:20 PM

http://www.wxii12.com/politics/10033912/detail.html#

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"Both candidates were asked what Congress needs to do to protect American jobs such as those lost in the textiles and furniture industries. Miller said education, including his support of community colleges, is key to providing jobs. Robinson countered by saying the problem is illegal immigration."

Does this guy have any other lines? I seriously wonder where he gets his information from in this campaign. So much for him supporting personal responsibility.

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 12:47 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2006 12:46:41 PM

Would it be appropriate to interpret Miller's statement as him saying that if you get a better education you won't need a textiles or furniture job?

Plus, you'd think that if they cracked down on illegal immigration and got it 100% under control the cheap labor Mexicans would still be in their country. If they were still in their country the textiles and furniture jobs would have a larger working pool south of the border.

10/27/2006 12:57:56 PM

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" Most of the people who support his ignorant positions would never vote for someone black."

10/27/2006 1:08:00 PM

^^the sort of education we're talking about here is vocational education to equip those who would be in manufacturing for the new jobs taking over our economy, such as the biomedical production field.

[Edited on October 31, 2006 at 12:07 AM. Reason : .]

10/31/2006 12:07:06 AM

This guy came to the pharmacy I work at today. I shook his hand and he gave me a pamphlet. He sat there waiting for someone to talk to him. No one did and I threw the pamphlet away. Fucker is a hoss though. HUGE. I don't like the guy though, but I guess I can still say wassup.

11/1/2006 9:07:39 PM

i will move out of the district if vernon robinson wins
no lie

11/1/2006 9:27:06 PM

well, whereever you go, you'll be in a conservative district. i have confidence in mansell in the district to the east. guess that means you'll be transferring to the People's Republic of Chapel Hill, home of Comrade David Price!

11/1/2006 10:01:03 PM

the 13th is by no means conservative....i mean who the fuck do you think drew the district originally??

11/1/2006 10:12:14 PM

david price...if he is the same person from back in 1999...gave me a nomination to the airforce academy

11/1/2006 10:53:05 PM

^^true enough, Miller got that thing gerry-rigged to his liking. Hopefully Vernon can overcome this (he's sure outfundraised him), but we can see why the odds will be against him. This is why we need people like Brad Miller OUT.

^ha, wouldnt be suprised if he got a secretary to do those and didnt even read them. that man is the epitome of a People's Republic Liberal.

[Edited on November 1, 2006 at 11:30 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2006 11:30:07 PM

I don't even remember who's running against Mansell, but he's my man. Mansell is the usual, "OMG GAYS AND MEXICANS!" Republican, the type that drove me out of the party.

11/1/2006 11:59:39 PM

i'm sorry that you no longer care about family values, enforcing immigration laws, and cutting taxes.

11/2/2006 12:01:09 AM

So is the reason you are humping Vernon Robinson's leg so much is because you hate Mexicans more, homosexuals more, or both about the same? That's all Robinson talks about...

Hypothetical Interviewer: "So, Mr. Robinson, how do you think the Panthers played the other day?"
Robinson: "Well, they would have done better if they would have had the support from true American fans but instead 25% of the seats were filled with Illegals who were there with their homosexual lovers."

11/2/2006 12:04:53 AM

until you actually become knowledgeable of his actual platform, i suggest you keep your mouth shut with your insults.

11/2/2006 12:07:37 AM

Or maybe I listened to his platform for two fucking hours last week and that was ALL he talked about along with smearing Miller. He has nothing postive to contribute. So which is it that gets your goat, homophobia or xenophobia? The good thing is that it seems like the majority of North Carolinians in the 13th district are still smart enough to not be duped by this clown into succombing to his fearmongering.

11/2/2006 12:15:20 AM

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"^^true enough, Miller got that thing gerry-rigged to his liking. Hopefully Vernon can overcome this (he's sure outfundraised him), but we can see why the odds will be against him. This is why we need people like Brad Miller OUT. "

so you agree you're just talking out of your ass. good.

11/2/2006 7:46:45 AM

^^I'm sorry that you see enforcing the border as "xenophobic" and such. we want immigrants here...LEGAL immigrants. why should they be allowed to break the law and benefit off of YOUR tax dollars?

the homosexual thing? that was just a dig at Miller and his values, not a large tenant of his platform. you are a fool if you think he cares that much about homosexuality. the only time he's said anything about this was when he was going against that importation act. why should they get special priviledges to bring in certain immigrants over others? they would be using marriage visas to bring in people not recognized as even being able to be wedded to them.

how about these MAJOR tenants of his campaign? what about them do you hate?:

-tax reduction
-school choice
-rights of the unborn
-elimination of racial quotas
-fighting Brad Miller's patented GAS TAX
-Miller's misappropriation of MASSIVE amounts of funds to strange sex studies
-Miller's horrible record on defense, not suprising seeing as he has ZERO military experience compared to Vernon's many years of service.

In times like these, we need strong leadership with convictions, not bet-wetting socialists who want to give terrorists rights like Brad Miller.

I encourage you to learn more about Brad Miller as well. I'm sure you can find plenty on his leftist views on the Daily Koz, the far-leftist, socialist-haven blog he posts on. NC will hopefully take out Gas Tax Brad next week.



[Edited on November 2, 2006 at 8:13 AM. Reason : .]

11/2/2006 8:04:21 AM

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"Miller got that thing gerry-rigged to his liking."

Oh and Republicans would never Gerry-mander anything?

11/2/2006 8:26:17 AM

well it is the case that two of the most egregious districts in the state are geared toward a minority population, nc-12 and nc-13

nc-12 is awful looking though

11/2/2006 8:28:27 AM

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"Hopefully Vernon can overcome this (he's sure outfundraised him)"

He out-fundraised him out of state, not in the district.

Vernon Robinson, Richard Vinroot, and Erskine Bowles should start a club for perpetual losers.

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"until you actually become knowledgeable of his actual platform, i suggest you keep your mouth shut with your insults."

I saw him in 3 debates (WRAL, WUNC, and some Winston-Salem station). All he chose to talk about were homosexuals and Mexicans. He even attacked David Crabtree (the moderator) for being a deacon in a church that accepts gays. If that doesn't speak volumes about his judgment (or lack of), I fair you well.

I've got Vernon Robinson figured out. He's a homophobic homosexual, like Mr. Garrison on South Park.

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"People's Republic Liberal"

wtf kind of sense does that make? Republicans are politically bankrupt. You can't campaign on the issues so you just try to smear everybody.

[Edited on November 2, 2006 at 8:39 AM. Reason : ?]

11/2/2006 8:31:27 AM

^^i hate to say this because the whole gerrymandering thing really annoys me but ya gotta realize though that the people who live in those districts have a lot more in common with each other than their closer neighbors in other districts

11/2/2006 8:45:43 AM

im sorry, do you even understand how congressional districts are created? what are you doing in this thread?

11/2/2006 8:47:04 AM

^^^I'd have to see proof that he actually "attacked" a moderator. Can you give me any proof?

11/2/2006 8:53:30 AM

having dealt with him in previous races at different levels, it's entirely within his character

11/2/2006 9:46:55 AM

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"i hate to say this because the whole gerrymandering thing really annoys me but ya gotta realize though that the people who live in those districts have a lot more in common with each other than their closer neighbors in other districts"

LOL

gerrymandering is ok if it serves my own goals!!!!!!1

11/2/2006 9:49:15 AM

as long as it maintains the control of congressional seats by comrades miller, price, watt, etc., then it serves the best interest of the people!

i like how all these accusations about vernon being a xenophobic, homophobic man who attacks moderators and makes unwarrented attacks on his opponents (who are, of course, innocent) are not backed up by any facts, but instead by the opinions of a handful of socialists.

[Edited on November 2, 2006 at 10:58 AM. Reason : ,]

11/2/2006 10:57:36 AM

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"Robinson trades barbs with WRAL anchor Rob Christensen, Staff Writer Republican Vernon Robinson didn't just go after his Democratic opponent, U.S. Rep. Brad Miller, during a debate on Friday. Robinson also got in a spirited argument with the moderator, WRAL anchorman David Crabtree. The dispute started off-camera during a commercial break when Crabtree held up a copy of a bill regarding the ability of gay people to help their partners get a visa to immigrate to the United States. Crabtree told Robinson he could not find language in the bill that said what Robinson said the bill did. "I understand that your church supports the ordination of homosexual clergy and you are deacon, and that is why you are taking the ridiculous position," Robinson said. Crabtree responded: "I will not allow you to prostitute the airwaves. But I will say to you, my choice of worship is up to me. I will leave it at that." Crabtree is an ordained deacon at The Church of the Good Shepherd, an Episcopal church in Raleigh. "

http://www.newsobserver.com/639/story/501090.html

11/2/2006 12:08:26 PM

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"i like how all these accusations about vernon being a xenophobic, homophobic man who attacks moderators and makes unwarrented attacks on his opponents (who are, of course, innocent) are not backed up by any facts, but instead by the opinions of a handful of socialists."

So let me get this straight, if you don't support Vernon Robinson you are a socialist? Tell me, what exactly is conservative about being against immigration and homosexuality? A conservative position would be that immigration is free trade and the governement has no role in sexuality and religious issues. Robinson is the socialist wanting to control everybody.

Here's my conservative agenda:

1.) I don't support gay marriage, nor do I support any government involvement in any marriage. Marriage is the realm of the church. If the government wants to recognize civil unions for practicality, it should be blind to sexuality.

2.) Immigration is good. Most of the problems are a result of poor policy that forces immigrants to be outsiders. We need to put all immigrants on a path to citizenship and indoctrinate them into American culture. We need to end our Cold War era immigration policies and return to policies more in the spirit of our forefathers. We need to document all immigrants and only refuse them for practical reasons such as disease and bad intentions.

[Edited on November 2, 2006 at 12:19 PM. Reason : ?]

11/2/2006 12:13:45 PM

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"im sorry, do you even understand how congressional districts are created? what are you doing in this thread?"

um, yes. do you?

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"gerrymandering is ok if it serves my own goals!!!!!!1"

not at all what i said

[Edited on November 2, 2006 at 1:18 PM. Reason : ]

11/2/2006 1:17:07 PM

all you've managed to do in this thread is define what we were already talking about. not exactly value added.

11/2/2006 1:54:05 PM

muslims support miller!

11/3/2006 12:22:25 PM

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"If there were an Oscar for political slime, it would go to "Twilight Zone," a spot run by Vernon Robinson, a congressional challenger in North Carolina. In 60 seconds, the ad manages to tie Democrat Brad Miller to Osama, gay marriage, "lesbians and feminists," activist judges, infanticide, flag-burning, racial quotas, space aliens, illegal immigrants, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton. In another ad, Robinson stamps "XXX" across Miller's face, claiming that his opponent refused to support body armor for troops in Iraq but that he "pays for sex" and that he "spent your tax dollars to pay teenage girls to watch pornographic movies with probes connected to their genitalia." It's all mendacious nonsense, but Paul Nelson, a Republican running for Congress in Wisconsin, liked the ad so much he ran it virtually unchanged against his own opponent."

He forgot outsourcing.

11/3/2006 12:53:02 PM

OH MY LORD

VERNON ROBINSON CALLS ME 2 TIMES A DAY EVERY DAY

KNOCK IT OFF YOU WINGNUT

11/3/2006 1:09:45 PM

I hope he goes down in flames. Never has there been so many reasons to really hate a politician.

I especially like the time he put his own personal 1-ton 10 Commandments monument in from of City Hall in W-S...and when he lost re-election, had to have it removed with CITY FUNDS. What a fucking prick.

11/3/2006 2:32:47 PM

^^^that quote is incredibly misleading. way to make it look like vernon accused him of "paying for sex", avoiding the issue: that miller approved outrageous sex studies, paid for with YOUR tax dollars.

I also fail to see how not believing that homosexuals should be clergy members, leaders of the church and ordainers of marriage, a "hatred of homosexuals".

11/3/2006 3:07:43 PM

A vote for Robinson is a vote against Miller. He votes further left on economic issues than 92 percent of Congress, and he didn't even have the balls to vote yes or no on Iraq, instead voting present. He isn't sent to just be there, he's there to make a stand, right or wrong.

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"In the past two years, his only other break with the party on a key vote has been on a GOP-backed resolution supporting the war in Iraq, according to a Washington Post analysis. In that case, he voted "present" rather than against the measure."

http://www.newsobserver.com/114/story/505819.html

Sorry if the above has been posted already, I don't really care.

11/3/2006 3:24:16 PM

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"I also fail to see how not believing that homosexuals should be clergy members, leaders of the church and ordainers of marriage, a "hatred of homosexuals"."

I fail to see what any of that has to do with being a Congressman.

11/3/2006 4:14:40 PM

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"A vote for Robinson is a vote against Miller."

How far would you go with that? Have you watched any of the debates? Brad Miller is clearly the better of the two candidates. I don't care how "liberal" you might have heard Brad Miller is, Robinson is a racist, homophobic disgrace. He's unbecoming of a US Congressman and a disgrace to North Carolina. He's even attracted international attention, making North Carolinians look like complete morons in the eyes of the country and the world. He doesn't even have much support amongst other Republicans. When Bush visited the district he's running for, Robinson wasn't invited.

[Edited on November 3, 2006 at 4:21 PM. Reason : ?]

11/3/2006 4:17:19 PM

To somebody whose economic and social values align with Mr. Miller's, I'm sure he'd be a fine candidate. But for those who are in the 92 percent of those to the right of Mr. Miller, he is not.

11/3/2006 4:20:11 PM

So we all know Robinsons wacko agenda. What is Brad Miller's wacko liberal agenda?

11/3/2006 4:23:48 PM

if Fred Phelps promised to lower taxes and shut off the borders, I'd vote for him! Brad Miller, what with his OUTRAGEOUS SEX STUDIES and INABILITY TO SUPPORT OR CONDEMN THE IRAQ WAR shows me that he is not a real MAN and should be thrown out of congress! /randy & wolfpack4life

You know what, fuck this, you morons can have Robinson make you all look like fools for all I care. I live in Bob Ethridge's district, and Bob is the man, and he's gonna win again this year over that fool that cheated on his taxes for 5 years. Bob's a democrat who wants to lower the gas tax, he's great?

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"To somebody whose economic and social values align with Mr. Miller's, I'm sure he'd be a fine candidate."

you mean...the majority in his district that will re-elect him this year more than likely?

[Edited on November 3, 2006 at 5:54 PM. Reason : .]

11/3/2006 5:48:48 PM

You piece of shit, how dare you tell me how I should vote in my district. Stick to your own fucking district.

11/3/2006 5:55:48 PM

if your values align with those of Robinson, specifically his attitudes on immigration, then I feel that you need all the help you can get.

11/3/2006 6:01:02 PM

Says the guy who wants to give a hummer to Representative Foghorn Leghorn.

11/3/2006 6:02:53 PM