Salisburyboy, don't let these Zionist sympathizers upset you. We all know that the Holocaust was used as a decisive tool to gain sympathy (as the zionist sympathizers are quite a few here in this thread).

8/1/2006 10:49:29 PM

This is a Video from Congressman Paul Findley talking about How the Jews of Israel control the Congress therefor the American Government through their Lobby "Aipac"

VIDEO
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3252642434022358005&q=israel

Wikipedia link about Aipac: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AIPAC

skip the intro but listent to everything he has to say

Be a Patriot send this Video to as many people as you CAN, because [b] AMERICAS FUTURE IS IN YOUR HAND

8/2/2006 2:16:56 AM

Quote :

"mytwocents: Just curious...but if he's claiming to be addicted to alcohol, then how can he have gone into a tizzy and blamed alcohol? I mean if that were the case, then wouldn't he have been able to control his outburst?"

???

It looks like you're saying that, because he is an alcoholic, he should have been able to control himself when he was drunk.

Is that what you're asking? If so, NO, NO, NO.

8/2/2006 4:58:16 AM

http://www.eonline.com/Features/Specials/Jews/

Quote :

"Do Jews Run Hollywood? You bet they do--and what of it? by Ben Stein A few days after Marlon Brando scandalized the airwaves by referring to the Jews who worked in Hollywood as "kikes," I got a call from an editor at 60 Minutes. The woman wanted to know how I felt about Brando's use of words and his allegation that Hollywood is "run by Jews." [...]"

WTF?! THIS ANTI-SEMITE SAYS THE JEWS RUN HOLLYWOOD!1 OMG, I'M SO MAD! WHAT A RACIST!!1



oh, my bad

8/2/2006 1:02:25 PM

8/2/2006 1:08:15 PM

Hey, that cop that arrested Gibson WAS a j00. Figure that. Coincidence? Or perhaps Gibson wasn't as drunk as we are lead to believe.

Gibson Forgot Rule #1: Public criticism not permitted for some
http://www.officialwire.com/main.php?action=recent&rid=21032

Yeah, suppose Gibson had said, "{White people/Americans/the English} are responsible for all the wars in the world. Are you {American/English}?" The same media outcry? Hardly.

8/2/2006 1:18:09 PM

the higher your body fat, the higher your bac

you retards

8/2/2006 1:21:53 PM

http://www.rense.com/general72/anisem.htm

Quote :

"You Might Be An "Anti-Semite" If... You think that the insistence on the part of Rabbi David Feldman from the group 'Jews Against Anti-Semitism' that Mel Gibson be arrested and tried as a terrorist under the provisions of the Patriot Act for having made the movie 'The Passion of the Christ' would be a violation of his right to free speech"

8/2/2006 1:24:44 PM

Why don't you respond to people instead of quote bombing?

Quote :

"Hey, that cop that arrested Gibson WAS a j00. Figure that. Coincidence? Or perhaps Gibson wasn't as drunk as we are lead to believe."

He was driving 42 mph over the speed limit.
He claimed to own Malibu.
He threatened police.
He attempted to escape.
He called a female officer "sugar tits".

Are you really trying to say that he wasn't that drunk and that this is all part of a jew conspiracy? Get over your Mel Gibson crush already.

Quote :

"Yeah, suppose Gibson had said, "{White people/Americans/the English} are responsible for all the wars in the world. Are you {American/English}?" The same media outcry? Hardly."

What if a black guy had said "Black people are responsible for all the wars in the world. Are you black?" There would have been no outcry. The issue is a celebrity with a straight laced image getting a DUI and going off on a rant about another group of people.

Can I get your take on this? I posted it on the last page but you must have missed it:

Here is Wikipedias definition of a conspiracy theory. Your Zionist NWO plot is in line with ever single point.

1. Initiated on the basis of limited, partial or circumstantial evidence;
Conceived in reaction to media reports and images, as opposed to, for example, thorough knowledge of the relevant forensic evidence.

2. Addresses an event or process that has broad historical or emotional impact;
Seeks to interpret a phenomenon which has near-universal interest and emotional significance, a story that may thus be of some compelling interest to a wide audience.

3. Reduces morally complex social phenomena to simple, immoral actions;
Impersonal, institutional processes, especially errors and oversights, interpreted as malign, consciously intended and designed by immoral individuals.

4. Personifies complex social phenomena as powerful individual conspirators;
Related to (3) but distinct from it, deduces the existence of powerful individual conspirators from the 'impossibility' that a chain of events lacked direction by a person.

5. Allots superhuman talents or resources to conspirators;
May require conspirators to possess unique discipline, unrepentant resolve, advanced or unknown technology, uncommon psychological insight, historical foresight, unlimited resources, etc.

6. Key steps in argument rely on inductive, not deductive reasoning;
Inductive steps are mistaken to bear as much confidence as deductive ones.

7. Appeals to 'common sense';
Common sense steps substitute for the more robust, academically respectable methodologies available for investigating sociological and scientific phenomena.

8. Exhibits well-established logical and methodological fallacies;
Formal and informal logical fallacies are readily identifiable among the key steps of the argument.

9. Is produced and circulated by 'outsiders', often anonymous, and generally lacking peer review;
Story originates with a person who lacks any insider contact or knowledge, and enjoys popularity among persons who lack critical (especially technical) knowledge.

10. Is upheld by persons with demonstrably false conceptions of relevant science;
At least some of the story's believers believe it on the basis of a mistaken grasp of elementary scientific facts.

11. Enjoys zero credibility in expert communities;
Academics and professionals tend to ignore the story, treating it as too frivolous to invest their time and risk their personal authority in disproving.

12. Rebuttals provided by experts are ignored or accommodated through elaborate new twists in the narrative;
When experts do respond to the story with critical new evidence, the conspiracy is elaborated (sometimes to a spectacular degree) to discount the new evidence, often incorporating the rebuttal as a part of the conspiracy.

13. The conspiracy is claimed to involve just about anybody;
Conspiracy tales grow in the telling, and can swell to world-spanning proportions. As the adherents struggle to explain counter-arguments, the conspiracy grows even more (see preceding item). Conspiracy theories that have been around for a few decades typically encompass the whole world and huge portions of history.

14. The conspiracy centers on the "usual suspects";
Classical conspiracy theories feature people, groups or organizations that are discriminated against in the culture where the story is told. Jews and foreigners are a common target. Likewise, organizations with a bad or colorful reputation feature prominently, such as the Templars, the Nazis and just about any secret service.

8/2/2006 2:08:58 PM

http://www.rense.com/general72/wecc.htm

Quote :

"By Edgar J. Steele 8-4-6 Is it over? Is it really over? Do the Jews now run everything and everybody? Oh, Mel...how could you? Please say it isn't true. Tell us that abject and disgusting statement issued yesterday over your name wasn't really yours. Tell us that your publicist wrote it behind your back, that you have fired him and that you now want to set the record straight. Tell us that you didn't really grovel before the ADL's execrable Abe Foxman. Please. Did you really say, "There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who thinks or expresses any kind of anti-Semitic remark?" If so, then please explain to us that, at the time, despicable torture fanatic Alan Dershowitz was shoving bamboo splinters under your fingernails. Tell us how that proven Holocaust liar and huckster Elie Weisel held a gun to your head and made you say, "I am asking the Jewish community, whom I have personally offended, to help me on my journey through recovery." Truth is No Defense When It Comes to Jews All this because you blurted out, while somewhat inebriated, "F*****g Jews... The Jews are responsible for all the wars," to a Jewish cop who was arresting you? As you and I both well know, what you said was true! Jews are responsible for all the wars, it seems. Certainly, the ones that really count in terms of dead and wounded: World Wars I and II. In case you haven't noticed, that little dustup in the Middle East fast is turning into World War III - and guess who started it? It sure wasn't some little Arab kid throwing rocks! It's those "F*****g Jews," of course. You know - the ones who are responsible for all the wars. All across America, a huge number of us were electrified and silently cheered when we heard about what you said to that cop, particularly in view of the atrocities being committed by all those Israeli Jews against innocent Palestinian and Lebanese women and children, now symbolized by the 43 little children massacred in Qana the other night as they lay sleeping. In that moment, once again, we saw you speaking for us, we heard the spirit of the larger-than-life heroes you have portrayed. Far from being reprehensible, what you said gave us hope that, somehow, we can reject the Globalists and the agenda that has hijacked our nation; that, somehow, we can force an end to the insane Middle Eastern killing being done by them in our name, using our money. Show us where your family is being held hostage, Mel. We will come to Southern California from all over America. Then, just as you showed us how in The Patriot, we will get them back for you, using muskets and tomahawks, if necessary. [...] Real Men Never Apologize to Tyrants Do you really think that groveling before the Jews will gain you even an inch with them? Ask David Irving how far years of sidestepping and carefully-worded statements got him. You'll find him sitting in that Austrian jail cell, of course, charged with Hate Speech by Jews for having told the truth in his capacity as one of the foremost historians of our time. The truth. Just like you told the other night. Mad Max wouldn't have apologized. Neither would Martin Riggs, of Lethal Weapon fame. Benjamin Martin, The Patriot, still would be unbent and unbowed. And William Wallace would have died first. When I think about what the man who birthed The Passion of the Christ must be like, somehow I don't see him fidgeting, hat in hand, waiting to curtsey before Jabba the Jew. Instead, I picture the sort of man willing to upturn Jabba's money changing table in the temple in support of his beliefs. "

Haha. Nice article.

I don't believe those apology statements read in the media are really Gibson's words for a minute. Most likely they were written by Gibson's publicist or agent, probably off of an ADL script.

Anyways, we're on Mel's side. The j00z can whine on tv and in the papers all they want. It's backfiring.


[Edited on August 5, 2006 at 1:12 PM. Reason : `]

8/5/2006 1:11:08 PM

In your flurry of finding articles to post in lieu of responding to questions, you apparently missed this article in the mainstream media:

Quote :

"Hollywood friends defend Mel Gibson LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Several of Mel Gibson's friends say he's a "different person" when he's drinking, but they do not believe he's anti-Semitic. Movie producer Dean Devlin said he and his wife are Jewish, and he considers Gibson -- who unleashed an anti-Jewish tirade when arrested for drunken driving July 28 -- one of his best friends in Hollywood. "If Mel is an anti-Semite, then he spends a lot of time with us, which makes no sense," Devlin told the Los Angeles Times. He met Gibson while co-producing "The Patriot," in which Gibson starred. "But he is an alcoholic, and while that makes no excuse for what he said, because there is no excuse, I believe it was the disease speaking, not the man.""

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/08/04/mel.gibson.ap/index.html

OMG! A jew defending Mel Gibson's remarks? How do you explain this one little buddy?

Quote :

"I don't believe those apology statements read in the media are really Gibson's words for a minute. Most likely they were written by Gibson's publicist or agent, probably off of an ADL script."

Why? Why on earth do you believe that? Is this belief just a manifestation of your hatred of jews and your love of Mel Gibson coming together?

Quote :

"Anyways, we're on Mel's side. The j00z can whine on tv and in the papers all they want. It's backfiring."

You are just all about some Mel Gibson, aren't you? This couldn't have anything to do with his movie Conspiracy Theory, could it?

Can I get your take on this? I posted it on the last page but you must have missed it:

Here is Wikipedias definition of a conspiracy theory. Your Zionist NWO plot is in line with ever single point.

1. Initiated on the basis of limited, partial or circumstantial evidence;
Conceived in reaction to media reports and images, as opposed to, for example, thorough knowledge of the relevant forensic evidence.

2. Addresses an event or process that has broad historical or emotional impact;
Seeks to interpret a phenomenon which has near-universal interest and emotional significance, a story that may thus be of some compelling interest to a wide audience.

3. Reduces morally complex social phenomena to simple, immoral actions;
Impersonal, institutional processes, especially errors and oversights, interpreted as malign, consciously intended and designed by immoral individuals.

4. Personifies complex social phenomena as powerful individual conspirators;
Related to (3) but distinct from it, deduces the existence of powerful individual conspirators from the 'impossibility' that a chain of events lacked direction by a person.

5. Allots superhuman talents or resources to conspirators;
May require conspirators to possess unique discipline, unrepentant resolve, advanced or unknown technology, uncommon psychological insight, historical foresight, unlimited resources, etc.

6. Key steps in argument rely on inductive, not deductive reasoning;
Inductive steps are mistaken to bear as much confidence as deductive ones.

7. Appeals to 'common sense';
Common sense steps substitute for the more robust, academically respectable methodologies available for investigating sociological and scientific phenomena.

8. Exhibits well-established logical and methodological fallacies;
Formal and informal logical fallacies are readily identifiable among the key steps of the argument.

9. Is produced and circulated by 'outsiders', often anonymous, and generally lacking peer review;
Story originates with a person who lacks any insider contact or knowledge, and enjoys popularity among persons who lack critical (especially technical) knowledge.

10. Is upheld by persons with demonstrably false conceptions of relevant science;
At least some of the story's believers believe it on the basis of a mistaken grasp of elementary scientific facts.

11. Enjoys zero credibility in expert communities;
Academics and professionals tend to ignore the story, treating it as too frivolous to invest their time and risk their personal authority in disproving.

12. Rebuttals provided by experts are ignored or accommodated through elaborate new twists in the narrative;
When experts do respond to the story with critical new evidence, the conspiracy is elaborated (sometimes to a spectacular degree) to discount the new evidence, often incorporating the rebuttal as a part of the conspiracy.

13. The conspiracy is claimed to involve just about anybody;
Conspiracy tales grow in the telling, and can swell to world-spanning proportions. As the adherents struggle to explain counter-arguments, the conspiracy grows even more (see preceding item). Conspiracy theories that have been around for a few decades typically encompass the whole world and huge portions of history.

14. The conspiracy centers on the "usual suspects";
Classical conspiracy theories feature people, groups or organizations that are discriminated against in the culture where the story is told. Jews and foreigners are a common target. Likewise, organizations with a bad or colorful reputation feature prominently, such as the Templars, the Nazis and just about any secret service.

8/5/2006 6:39:13 PM

American public still likes Mel Gibson despite the relentless attacks from the JewMedia...

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,208025,00.html

Quote :

"FOX Poll: Gibson Still OK for Many Americans Friday, August 11, 2006 Even after significant media coverage of Mel Gibson’s anti-Semitic rant while being arrested for drunk driving, nearly half of Americans have a favorable opinion of the Hollywood star, and most say the incident will not make a difference when they’re deciding whether to go see his movies. The latest FOX News poll finds that 6 percent of Americans say they "definitely" will not go to see Gibson’s movies in the future and another 10 percent say they "probably" won’t go, while eight out of 10 people say his arrest and negative comments about Jewish people will not make a difference to them. Men (83 percent) are slightly more likely than women (77 percent), and Republicans (83 percent) are a bit more likely than Democrats (75 percent) to say the incident will not make a difference in their decision to see Gibson’s movies."

http://www.ziopedia.org/content/view/1220/1/

Quote :

"Guess What Foxman? Americans Don't Give a Damn! by Curt Maynard Wednesday, 16 August 2006 I for one am not at all surprised to read that eighty-percent of Americans still hold Mel Gibson in high regard, and that a mere six percent say they’ll never see a Gibson film again, I’ve been saying it all along, the vast majority of Americans don’t give a damn that Gibson made some anti-Semitic remarks, they don’t care about Jews anymore than anyone else. You wouldn’t know it though, not if one were to rely on the coverage of the mainstream kosher media, you know the very media that claims to represent the American people, they’ve had nothing but condemnation for Mel from the very beginning."

8/16/2006 3:01:14 PM

the great thing is that when this douche posts now, all i see is a blank space

it's wonderful

oh i'm betting that whatever he just said was batshit crazy

8/16/2006 3:03:44 PM

How do you explain Hollywood jew Dean Devlin defending Mel Gibson?

Why can't you answer a single one of my questions about the zionist plot against Mel Gibson?

8/16/2006 3:06:51 PM

Famous and prominent people have said anti-Islamic, anti-Black, anti-African, anti-White, etc comments in the past few years, and no one has suggested that they lose their career for it, but horrors, an actor says something anti-Jewish, and now he has to serve penance and be cleansed of his "disease"

The worst suggestion below is the first bolded one. So for one comment, which he has apologized for profusely, he should start all over again?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14189654/

Quote :

"Hey, Mel, how about a public circumcision? Serious, humorous suggestions pour in for how Gibson should apologize NEW YORK - A Yom Kippur appearance at a synagogue. A trip to Washington’s Holocaust museum. A circumcision? Ever since Mel Gibson said he wanted the Jewish community to help him make amends for his anti-Semitic comments, suggestions have been pouring in, some in jest and some quite serious. “I don’t think he should be totally drummed out of the business,” said radio host and comedian Al Franken. “I think he should just have to start all over again.” Writing on the Huffington Post blog, he proposed putting Gibson in a movie as an “under-five,” an actor who has fewer than five lines. “Watching the dailies, a producer might say, ’Hey, that busboy who said, ’You dropped your napkin, sir’ — he’s pretty good.’ Then the director will say, ’Of course, he’s good. That’s Mel Gibson.”’ Another talk show host, Joy Behar on ABC’s “The View,” had a more extreme proposal for the actor, whose anti-Jewish tirade during a drunk driving arrest has been a source of incessant talk for a week. “He needs to be welcomed into the Jewish community,” Behar said to whoops of audience laughter, “by a public circumcision.” Taking a more serious approach, New York’s Museum of Jewish Heritage wrote the actor to propose a visit. “His apology attracted my attention,” museum director David Marwell said in a phone interview. “I thought, if this guy’s serious, then we’d be a pretty good first stop.” The museum has often worked with juvenile bias crime offenders, teaching them how “words have an impact,” Marwell said. Many of its guides are Holocaust survivors. Susan Estrich, a Fox News commentator and law professor, suggested Gibson visit the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington. “From where I sit, it doesn’t matter that he was drunk, but there’s no choice but to work with the apology and make the best lemonade you can with it,” Estrich wrote on FoxNews.com. And a Beverly Hills rabbi invited Gibson to speak on Yom Kippur, the most solemn day of the Jewish calendar, according to TMZ, the celebrity Web site that broke the initial news of Gibson’s arrest and outburst. “It is one thing to issue a statement but coming directly into the presence of a community is more effective,” read a letter from Rabbi David Baron of the Temple of the Arts that was posted on the site. “I feel that Yom Kippur, Day of Atonement, would be an appropriate time.” The temple did not immediately return a call for comment. Tour guide at Auschwitz A more general offer came from the Anti-Defamation League, which had sharply rejected Gibson’s first apology but accepted his second, which specifically acknowledged anti-Semitic remarks. “Once he completes his rehabilitation for alcohol abuse,” the group said, it was ready to “help him with his second rehabilitation to combat this disease of prejudice.” Bloggers had their own ideas. Adam Hanft, also writing on the Huffington blog, had a list of suggestions for how Gibson could perform community service if necessary, including “three months acting as a tour guide — along with his father — at Auschwitz, where they will take visitors through the concentration camp, paying special attention to the spa; fitness and aromatherapy center; and breakfast buffet areas.” Gibson’s father, Hutton Gibson, has been quoted as saying the Holocaust was mostly “fiction.” Amid all the talk, some were also focusing on those who weren’t talking. Former TV producer Merv Adelson took out an ad in Wednesday’s Los Angeles Times criticizing studio heads for not publicly condemning Gibson. And a columnist at the paper, Patrick Goldstein, leveled the same charge in a column entitled, “The Shame is That So Few Say ’Shame,”’ singling out Jewish figures such as Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg of DreamWorks and Barry Meyer of Warner Bros. Yet there was debate over whether such figures should be expected to speak publicly. “Why do we expect them to speak out — because they are Jews?” asked ADL’s national director, Abraham H. Foxman, in an interview. “That in itself is stereotypic. These people are in Hollywood because they are writers, producers and actors, not because they are Jews.” Behar, who jokingly suggested the circumcision, said in a phone interview later that it’s not just Jews who should be expected to speak. “Any bigoted remarks should be addressed by right-thinking people of all kinds,” she said. One former talent agent saw it all as too public an excoriation of one individual. “I have difficulty with this public burying of a person,” said Alan Kannof, a former chief operating officer at the William Morris Agency. “It’s kind of like a mob reaction, a public stoning.” “I myself wouldn’t see his movies and I wouldn’t hire him,” said Kannof, now an independent manager and producer. “But he’s an individual, and what he says and does kind of speaks for itself.”"

8/16/2006 3:16:33 PM

Quote :

"“I don’t think he should be totally drummed out of the business,” said radio host and comedian Al Franken. “I think he should just have to start all over again.” "

Who gives a damn what Al Franken says? Somebody tell that fugly Jew hack to just shut up.

The bottom line is that the j00z control Hollywood and the MSM. They control whether Mel Gibson ever works in the biz again. That's why Gibson has to "apologize"...even when 80%+ of the public could care less about his comments.

8/16/2006 3:21:27 PM

Quote :

"The bottom line is that the j00z control Hollywood and the MSM."

Please prove this. No, don't paste another pointless list of jews in Hollywood.

Quote :

"They control whether Mel Gibson ever works in the biz again."

Feel free to also prove this.

Quote :

"That's why Gibson has to "apologize"...even when 80%+ of the public could care less about his comments."

Actually, its pretty common for someone to apologize after making a complete ass of themself. Apologizing is also part of the process when you seek help with a drinking problem.

[Edited on August 16, 2006 at 3:28 PM. Reason : .]

8/16/2006 3:27:17 PM

The j00z don't control Hollywood?

http://www.eonline.com/Features/Specials/Jews/

Quote :

"Do Jews Run Hollywood? You bet they do--and what of it? by Ben Stein A few days after Marlon Brando scandalized the airwaves by referring to the Jews who worked in Hollywood as "kikes," I got a call from an editor at 60 Minutes. The woman wanted to know how I felt about Brando's use of words and his allegation that Hollywood is "run by Jews." [...]"

8/16/2006 3:31:49 PM

Man oh man did you miss the point of that article.

Quote :

"Thus, the fact of Hollywood's being very largely Jewish is not exactly news. The news is that Hollywood is rapidly becoming ethnically far more diverse than it was only a couple of decades ago, when I first arrived here. You can take it from the studio level, where probably the most powerful man in town is of the Australian faith--one Rupert Murdoch by name. Murdoch, no one's idea of a Jew, controls a major studio, a major broadcast network and the largest aggregation of TV stations in America. The head of programming at ABC is a full-on gentile, Ted Harbert. The owner and head of production of what has become the Tiffany studio, MGM, are Kirk Kerkorian and Frank Mancuso, also not members of Temple Israel. And on and on. It is certainly true that there have always been goyim in Hollywood. But there are more gentiles in the Industry now, and there has formed a whole new route to Hollywood."

An editorial by Ben Stein on the role of jews in Hollywood isn't proof by any means. Keep swingin, little buddy.

Is that how it works now? If you don't have an article to post in response to a specific question you just ignore it? Are you afraid of discussing something on your own without the crutch of articles to paste?

8/16/2006 3:41:40 PM

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=690808&contrassID=2

Quote :

"So what if the Jews run Hollywood? By Bradley Burston [...] So what? In fact, so what if Jews rule Hollywood? So what if they always have? Leave aside, for the moment, the historical context, the fact that immigrant Eastern European Jews, rejected and dismissed not only by the White Anglo Saxon Protestants that actually ran and still run things, but also by the German Jewish aristocracy of New York, sought - and built - a promised land in a direction opposite to this one. They went to the very edge of the world, a semi-arid basin of orange trees and chicken ranches and, yes, anti-Semites. They remade the world from scratch. The invention of movies was the algebra of the 20th century. Were they mercenary and money-grubbing, uncouth and ruthless, sappy and shallow and sentimental and insensitive? Were they ever. And why not? They were, after all, in a headlong hurry to become, for lack of a better term, Americans."

8/16/2006 3:44:30 PM

Again, you completely missed the point of the editorial that you point to as proof.

Quote :

"The Academy ruled last week on a petition by a group of Israelis who had lost children to Palestinian suicide bombings. The group asked that Paradise Now be disqualified. The Academy accepted a petition with more than 32,000 signatures, but denied the request. Yossi Zur, whose teenage son Asaf was killed in a bus bombing, said "What they call 'Paradise Now' we call 'hell now', each and every day." "It is a mission of the free world not to give such movies a prize." Certainly, Zur's feelings are more than understandable. However, if Hollywood has really taught us anything, it is this: The mission of the free world is to make money. It has also taught us something else. Hollywood Jews are no good at making films about Jews. It took a Nebraska-born Anglo-Saxon Protestant, Darrell Zanuck, to finally tackle anti-Semitism in a film, the 1947 Gentleman's Agreement, which he made over the vocal objections of Hollywood's corps of Jewish studio moguls. Another of the controversies that studded the run-up to the Oscars was a debate over the exact country which Paradise Now was representing. Abu-Assad maintained throughout that, just as it had been in the Golden Globes, the film should be designated as an entry from Palestine. Indeed, The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences initially referred to the film on its Web site as a submission from Palestine. But lobbying, negotiations, calls fpressures and endless conferences yielded the decision that the film would represent the Palestinian Authority. That decision infuriated Abu-Assad, who called it a slap at the Palestinian people and their national identity. "It's not like suddenly if you change your name, you didn't exist before," he said Tuesday. "If it's (Palestine) under occupation, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist." In the end, the film was listed as representing the Palestinian Territories. It might be noted, that in many cases the example of Gentlemen's Agreement has worked to the advantage of the Muslim and Arab world for years, as Jewish executives, editors, producers, reporters and others in the news media bent over backwards to serve up the Palestinian and Arab cause in as flattering a David versus Goliath pose as possible. The fact is, that it took brutal, self-defeating, inhuman terrorism on a global level to level the playing field, so that Jews, even the settler villains of foreign news set pieces, could be portrayed as human beings."

Quote :

"Is that how it works now? If you don't have an article to post in response to a specific question you just ignore it? Are you afraid of discussing something on your own without the crutch of articles to paste?"

8/16/2006 3:51:59 PM

Hey, salisburyboy, consider the following: If the Jews in fact control the media as you claim, don't they also control a lot of high-tech equipment? Isn't it possible that they--the Jews--are beaming scrambling signals into your brain at this very moment? Just to be on the safe side, you'd better wear the tin foil swirly cap.

8/16/2006 4:37:18 PM

The JewMedia just can't let it go. They're back to attacking Mel Gibson again on tv, as I'm sure you've noticed. For example, Geraldo Rivera (part Jewish) attacked Gibson on the O'Reilly Factor, indicating that he couldn't forgive Gibson.

Here's a taste of that hatred for critics of the precious j00z....

http://www.celebrityweek.com/news/show_news.asp?id=1474

Quote :

"Joan Rivers: “Mel Gibson Should F—king Die!” Mel Gibson probably shouldn’t expect a Hanukkah card this year from red carpet diva Joan Rivers. “He is an anti-Semitic son of a bitch,” she tells Celebrity Week. “He should f--king die.” Rivers, 73, was promoting her upcoming Bravo comedy special Joan Rivers: Before Melissa Pulls The Plug (premieres October 24), when the conversation turned to the disgraced actor’s recent arrest. [...]"

Who is it that really hates who again?

10/17/2006 12:53:09 PM

OMG A MEMBER OF THE MEDIA SPOKE NEGATIVELY ABOUT A CELEBRITY

HEY I HEARD THAT RYAN SEACREST FUCKER SAY THAT BRANGELINA'S BABY WAS "CUTE"

WHY NOT ADORABLE? WHO HATES WHO HERE??

10/17/2006 1:07:20 PM

Pathetic analogy/comparison. You are in serious denial if you're saying the media isn't attacking Mel Gibson.

10/17/2006 1:14:01 PM

and rightly so.

he's a bigot and misogynist

he called a cop "sugar tits"

this guy doesn't deserve to be coddled.

10/17/2006 1:21:02 PM

Quote :

"he's a bigot"

oh noes....not the "b" word!!

smear, smear, smear

Can you give us a real reason (ie, excluding blanket name-calling) why Gibson's beliefs are in any way reprehensible or wrong? Please explain.

10/17/2006 1:24:57 PM

well, for one thing: he apologized for what he had said. so obviously thought it was wrong. but i guess maybe the jews got to him.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 1:31 PM. Reason : .]

he also said the jews have caused all wars. which is retarded. so are the jews in sudan right now stirring things up?

and the jews started the iraq war?

it's all absurd.

[Edited on October 17, 2006 at 1:36 PM. Reason : .]

10/17/2006 1:30:49 PM

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"well, for one thing: he apologized for what he had said. so obviously thought it was wrong. but i guess maybe the jews got to him"

There's a difference between truly apologizing for something because you were wrong....and "apologizing" for something due to outside pressure, such as fear of losing your job/livelihood, trying to save face in the middle of a widespread media attack on your character and reputation, etc.

10/17/2006 1:42:22 PM

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"Can you give us a real reason (ie, excluding blanket name-calling) why Gibson's beliefs are in any way reprehensible or wrong? Please explain."

Can you give us a real reason why the media is in the wrong for criticizing Gibson? You sure throw around your fair share of criticism

10/17/2006 4:20:03 PM

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"he also said the jews have caused all wars. which is retarded. so are the jews in sudan right now stirring things up?"

Gibson was drunk. But beer is a truth serum. So, his drunken comments show that he does believe Jews are behind many wars. I doubt he really believes they are behind every single war. Saying "all" in a circumstance such as that can also be intended as a figure of speech.

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"and the jews started the iraq war?"

There is strong evidence that they did, in fact, orchestrate it. Powerful jewish interests connected to the Project for a New American Century (PNAC) talked about their intention of going to war in the middle east as early as 2001. And everyone knows it has been the state of "Israel" and the Israeli/Jewish Lobby primarily pushing for the U.S. to go to war against Iran. It was the same story with the push for the war against Iraq.

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"Can you give us a real reason why the media is in the wrong for criticizing Gibson? You sure throw around your fair share of criticism"

Criticizing him for driving drunk is justified, but their completely overboard attacks on him for his allegedly "anti-Semitic" comments are not. Basically, Gibson was saying powerful Jewish interests are behind recent wars....which is a FACT. The Jewish-controlled MSM is going ape on Gibson because the incident presented a good opportunity for them to demonize/smear those who hold such a belief (since Gibson was drunk). Their overall goal is to marginalize those speaking the truth about them and who oppose them. Using their media to destroy the reputation of a man like Gibson is a warning to other prominent people to remain quiet...or else they will have their own reputation attacked.

10/17/2006 5:11:10 PM

how are they wrong? dont they have freedom of press/speech? gibson should get a free pass because he's worth more money than you and i will ever be? plus you mention he was drunk implying that his comments were out of character...most things drunk people say are the truth, though they might not say it when they're sober

10/17/2006 5:15:35 PM

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"The Jewish-controlled MSM is going ape on Gibson because the incident presented a good opportunity for them to demonize/smear those who hold such a belief (since Gibson was drunk)."

So you are stating that the opinions of D list celebrities like Joan Rivers and Geraldo are representative of major movements within the mainstream media.

You know whats funny about that? I didn't hear about either of them criticizing him until you posted about it. If the MSM is behind such comments, why didn't they receive more press?

10/17/2006 8:05:34 PM

Where's the massive outrcy in the MSM over Joan Rivers saying Mel Gibson "should f--king die"??

And she wasn't drunk. I guess saying you wish someone was dead while completely sober is nothing compared to the "unforgiveable sin" of merely expressing your belief that powerful Jews are responsible for many of the wars going on.

Oh, right. Joan Rivers is a j00. She gets a pass to make all kinds of hateful comments, including wishing death on people. She and other Jews are allowed to express their hatred for non-Jews. Meanwhile...if non-Jews so much as mention the powerful Jewish influence over our government or mainstream media, they're attacked and branded as "hateful bigotted racist anti-Semites (blah blah blah)" by the Jewish-controlled media.



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10/18/2006 3:10:41 PM

why hasnt the Jewish controlled media attacked you and your character salisburyboy?

10/18/2006 3:15:54 PM

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"why hasnt the Jewish controlled media attacked you and your character salisburyboy?"

Come on dude. Is this what you're trying to pass off as a serious rebuttal to my argument?

Of course they haven't attacked me directly or by name. But they attack me indirectly by constantly attacking those who share my beliefs (eg, opposition to the Jewish-controlled MSM and the powerful Jewish influence over our government, opposition to massive non-white immigration, proponents of white nationalism, etc.)....smearing them as "racists, bigots, anti-Semites", etc via the propaganda on television, coming out of Hollywood, etc.

Now, if a prominent person were to come out and make statements (for instance) in opposition to the Jewish control of the media or in opposition to the powerful Jewish influence over our government, the media would clearly launch a smear campaign and attack upon their character and reputation.



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10/18/2006 3:29:55 PM

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"Of course they haven't attacked me directly or by name."

why not??

10/18/2006 3:45:36 PM

^^arent' you an anti-Semite?

i mean wouldn't that be the most accurate description of you?

10/18/2006 3:50:39 PM

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"arent' you an anti-Semite? i mean wouldn't that be the most accurate description of you?"

I'm an "anti-Semite" in the sense that I oppose Talmudic Judaism and the agenda of the powerful Jewish interests controlling our media and government. But that doesn't mean I'm a Nazi, that I want to make lamp shades out of Jews or put them in gas chambers, or belong to the KKK (as the media has conditioned the term "anti-Semite" to bring to your mind).

You can call me that if you wish. That smear term is losing it's sting. Being called an "anti-Semite" simply means that the Jews hate you and want to intimidate you into silence for opposing them or exposing the truth about them.

As for Jews, they are rabidly opposed to Christianity, and organized Jewry is mounting an all-out attack on Western/Christian/white society. So, let's be fair and call the Jews "anti-Christian", "anti-Christs", "anti-white", etc.


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10/18/2006 4:05:04 PM

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"Come on dude. Is this what you're trying to pass off as a serious rebuttal to my argument?"

ask a dumb question, get a dumb answer

10/18/2006 4:28:27 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Movies/11/20/richards.epithets.ap/index.html

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" 'Kramer' apologizes for racist tirade LOS ANGELES, California (AP) -- Michael Richards said Monday he spewed racial epithets during a stand-up comedy routine because he lost his cool while being heckled and not because he's a bigot. "For me to be at a comedy club and flip out and say this crap, I'm deeply, deeply sorry," the former "Seinfeld" co-star said during a satellite appearance for David Letterman's "Late Show." "I'm not a racist. That's what's so insane about this," Richards said, his tone becoming angry and frustrated as he defended himself in a clip from the show played on CBS before "Late Show" aired Monday night."

Wow...and Richards was tight with a lot of powerful Jews - according to many sources (including his publicist) he's even a practicing jew.

People can ruin their careers with any kind of stupid comment, not just drunken ramblings about jews.

Can we get a comment on this?

11/27/2006 9:01:46 PM

Yes, my comment is:

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"Plz 2 not bump the salspiracy threads"

11/27/2006 9:22:02 PM

Actually I am opposed to the term anti-semite for a few reasons.

1. arabs are semites b/c they are decendents of abraham, and thus to say anti-semite would also mean to be anti-arab, but for some reason the jews always get claim to the word.

2. A lot of today's current jews, ashkenazi to be specific aren't really semites as they are from the european khazar line that converted its entire kingdom to judiasm.

that being said, i notice SB that you get many of your quotes from http://www.rense.com, which is a site i've visited since high school. Even in hs I knew to take its information lightly, as it is clearly biased.

11/28/2006 9:20:57 AM

^ I wouldn't say that jews get claim to the word.

The term "anti-semite" was actually coined by a German anti-semite in the late nineteenth century because "anti-semite" sounds like it actually has some scientific basis as opposed to "jew-hater".

11/28/2006 12:59:23 PM

When I said get claim, I was refering to the fact that when people use or think anti-semite, they typically only bring jews to mind, while that is not an accurate statement.

11/28/2006 2:15:17 PM

word

11/28/2006 2:16:58 PM

God bless Mel Gibson AMEN!

11/28/2006 2:49:19 PM

Most people think anti-semite refers to jew-hating, thus when people who hates jews use the term, it would be rightful to jews to get upset about it. Even if it technically means other groups of people as well.

11/28/2006 2:53:48 PM

People who hate jews rarely use that term. That term is usually used by people who are refering to those who hate jews. Those who hate jews typically refer to themselves as anti-zionist or things of that nature. So by your statement jews should get mad at that term. However, neither should be true because the term anti-semite isn't referencing the jews, just those who hate them. Jews should be bothered by those who are called an anti-semite, or are anti-zionist, but not at the term itself.

but in all honesty, i'm bored and just being picky

11/28/2006 3:02:24 PM