1. the right has no lies.

9/14/2006 4:40:09 PM

did i say that? i want to know specifically what you people are referring to.

9/14/2006 4:43:15 PM

me listing lies in the right will be just as pointless as you naming off the lies in the left. You will just say im an idiot liberal.

9/14/2006 4:46:10 PM

Dentaldamn

9/14/2006 4:48:26 PM

there is no difference between right or left, democrat or republican, they are just two sides of the same coin, illusions that you have a choice, that you have a vote, but in the end babylon sits back and has a laugh at everyone

9/14/2006 8:42:26 PM

salisburyboy

is that you?

9/14/2006 8:50:59 PM

Despite possible setbacks in the coming election, I think it's clear that the writing is on the wall for the left. What selling points do they have this election season? Most of their platforms that at first appeal to the common citizen come with large tax costs, and eventually the taxpayer will see that this is true. Why will people vote for them? well, the left has successfully demonized bush and made it seem that we are weak in the face of setbacks that no politician could control (iraq insurgents, katrina, ect), but yet the left constantly pins on bush. now, in two years, when the people begin to see that this ideology is BANKRUPT, morally, ideologically, fiscally. voters will be driven back to conservatism, and hopefully this time we can invite another Reagan Revolution. What are the planks of the liberal platform that cant easily be pinned on bush.

environment: more restrictions on industry through measures such as the kyoto protocol which will deter efficiency and crash the very jobs liberals claim to want to "protect".
jobs: see "environment". also, liberals wish to simply give tax money for job growth (Winston Salem Dell plant). this tactic too ends in disaster, as pulling money from taxpayers is not the way to grow an economy, giving tax money back to spend is!
defense: the UN? leaving iraq now before the job is done? fewer "alarms"? no tough interrogation of imprisoned terror suspects? going by the geneva convention with terrorists? this should be obvious.
social security: more tax dollars for an obviously failing program.
healthcare: socialized medicine takes away ones fiscal freedom in choosing how they will be cared for. socialized programs are of low quality with no competition. this is a prescription for death.
welfare: more tax dollars for those who will not work. why do i need to explain this?

liberalism is a disillusion and a disease. it is almost bankrupt, and i welcome its demise.

10/15/2006 4:16:26 PM

10/15/2006 4:19:13 PM

i dont know what youre getting at, but your attemps to paint us as radicals are failing. liberalism is bankrupt.


[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 4:24 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 4:21:52 PM

i think you're catching that catchphrase about 12 years late.

(and i'm pretty sure they're referring to Ghost

[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 4:25 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 4:24:57 PM

You're right

Michael Savage definitely represents the American mainstream

10/15/2006 4:25:54 PM

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"there is no difference between right or left, democrat or republican, they are just two sides of the same coin, illusions that you have a choice, that you have a vote, but in the end babylon sits back and has a laugh at everyone"

10/15/2006 4:26:27 PM

care to actually refute this, or are you just going to be a smart ass?

10/15/2006 4:27:12 PM

those limits on emissions of cars worldwide really are hurting their job markets. lemme tell ya.

and banning DDT. I WANT MY DDT MONEY. THINK OF THE DDT FACTORIES.

and i want my CFC's back.

[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 4:29 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 4:28:17 PM

^maybe you should look at europe's gdp compared to ours

10/15/2006 4:30:41 PM

HOW DARE THE GOVERNMENT KEEP 8 YEAR OLDS FROM BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR THEIR FAMILIES!

YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW DEMOCRATS HATE THE POOR AND HATE FAMILIES!

10/15/2006 4:30:42 PM

yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent. what will take care of harmful chemicals? THE MARKET, not the government.

^noone proposes that, you fool. how about more taxes to help pay for that kid's quality schooling instead of sending him to the cesspools that are our public schools?

[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 4:32 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 4:32:00 PM

^^^maybe you should look at europe's quality of life compared to ours. or maybe infant mortality. or health care.

because the market banned CFC's and DDT. i forgot.


[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 4:32 PM. Reason : ^^^]

10/15/2006 4:32:01 PM

^WOULD PEOPLE BUY SOMETHING IF IT WOULD KILL THEM? i think not!

and the quality of living in europe, when you look at all factors, is in fact much worse. high unemployment, strict labor laws, union control of industries killing competition, socialized medicine in the larger countries leading to more deaths, mass deaths in every heat wave.

10/15/2006 4:34:34 PM

10/15/2006 4:34:40 PM

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"what will take care of harmful chemicals? THE MARKET, not the government. "

This is absolutely not true. If it had not been for EPA and FDA regulations there would still be uncontrolled discharage of hazardous materials into the environment simply for the reason that it is much cheaper. That is the market.

Would people buy something if it killed them? Hi, I'm a cigarette. Hi, I'm crack. Hi, I'm heroein.

10/15/2006 4:38:54 PM

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

ahahahah

So with this post, I now realize that you're definitely a troll.

Anyone not able to see the irony in that post is not intelligent enought to turn on a PC.

Therefore, gg dude. You had me going.

[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 4:39 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 4:39:14 PM

maybe i dont have the economic knowhow of some posters on here, but i do understand what they say, and i know that what they say works from experience, from history. you liberals are constantly owned on these issues on here, and you continue to argue your liberal philosophy no differently in the fact of truth. sit and listen to lonesnark and others. you liberals get owned by his conservative economic truths daily and you never learn. i and others point out your hypocricy and ideological bankruptcy, and you still dont change. you'll never learn, and thats sad.

^you challenge: using examples, prove how strict regulations will improve our way of life here in the US. if you can do this, ill respect you and your ideology, but until then, its just bankrupt.

[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 4:42 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 4:41:30 PM

Randy's word of the day:
bankrupt:
use it when you really want to get across just how wrong someone else is.
For example:
"The idea that the EPA should help protect the environment is bankrupt."
"Labor unions are bankrupt and have done nothing to help the American worker."

10/15/2006 4:45:55 PM

"I wanted to a tasty dipping sauce for my chicken tenders, but discovered my refrigerator was honey mustard bankrupt."

10/15/2006 4:48:14 PM

hahaha

10/15/2006 4:49:26 PM

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""The idea that the EPA should help protect the environment is bankrupt." "Labor unions are bankrupt and have done nothing to help the American worker." "

looks like you're starting to get the idea. the strengthening of the EPA only leads to greater industrial regulations and unions cause more harm than help. they are, as you said, "bankrupt". youre learning, how nice!

10/15/2006 4:52:44 PM

My photo montage, because arguing against trolls is fun, too



"I'm a child worker from back before we had strict regulations on worker age. I'm probably just about to get my leg caught in this here machine"




"We're dead 14-18 year-old young women who jumped to our deaths rather than burn alive alive in our top-story textile mill in NYC. 140 others died, too! You see, our bosses locked the exits to make sure were weren't taking any breaks. Too bad there weren't any strict regulations on working conditions and fire exits!




"RAAAAR! I'm the octopus cartoonists of my day used to represent Standard Oil. Because of the lack strict government trust regulations men like Rockefeller, J.P. Morgan, Vanderbult, and Carnegie were able to establish near monopolies and rob the America blind! RAAAAR!"




"I'm a typical family car circa 1970. VROOOOM! I feature an unsafe design, terrible gas-milage, and awful emissions (including lead). Good thing the market changed everything without any strict regulations! It truly warmed my heart to see the people demanding that they pay extra for catalytic converters. Oh wait, it was the government that mandated safety regulations, CAFE standards, emission standards, and unleaded gasoline. My bust."

I could go on, but this is getting boring.



[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 5:10 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 5:04:24 PM

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"Carnegie"

i like andrew carnegie gospel of wealth FTW

10/15/2006 5:09:18 PM

They all turned into angels once they were done with their businesses.

10/15/2006 5:10:02 PM

i think im biased since i saw the boom/bust of the steel industry myself through a friend here at school. i'm an environmentalist, but i still have a soft spot for the steel industry, if only b/c one of my good friend's father still cant find a job since the closing of his mill. then again, he's been an alcoholic since that day.

10/15/2006 5:13:41 PM

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10/15/2006 5:24:41 PM

HES GOT A LIFE, K?

10/15/2006 5:25:25 PM

Randy, I'm willing to bet you've never converted anyone into being a conservative

You'll probably claim you haven't, but I'll know it for a patent lie when I hear it

You have, however, caused one Republican to jump ship. Congratulations.

10/15/2006 7:08:52 PM

i've decided i'm a bull mooser. seriously.

the biggest truth i've discovered in politics: most people are too stupid to know what's best for themselves.

[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 7:30 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 7:21:14 PM

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"the strengthening of the EPA only leads to greater industrial regulations and unions cause more harm than help."

In my opinion the "greater industrial regulations" are worth the price of a healthy environment. Thankfully, people who share your view are in the great, great minority on both sides of government.

Now as for the union comment... are you referring ONLY to the unions of today? Because the unions of last century (early) definetly caused more help than harm... or do you disagree?

10/15/2006 8:08:53 PM

THE GUBMINT AIN'T GOT NO BUSINESS TELLIN' ME HOW MANY FIVE YEAR OLD WAGE SLAVES I CAN HAVE!

10/15/2006 8:11:46 PM

FDR WAS A CRIMINAL

10/15/2006 8:16:55 PM

I'M IN THE MAINSTREAM

10/15/2006 8:23:59 PM

GOLD STANDARD

ABOLISH THE FEDERAL RESERVE

KICK FRANCE OUT OF THE UN

wait, thats not right...

ABOLISH THE UN

[Edited on October 15, 2006 at 8:41 PM. Reason : .]

10/15/2006 8:36:45 PM

We should have historical debates.

Add a little spice to the SB

10/15/2006 8:54:36 PM

i tried that before and got flamed up the wazoo for claiming that the eastern front battle between austria-hungary and russia of wwI was harder than the western front battle of the us and germany of wwII. of course, i was a n00b then and used a bad wording...but hey.

10/15/2006 11:58:53 PM

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

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"Randy: yet another example of liberal futility, grab the extreme side of an argument (one that wasnt even presented) and attempt to use it to straw-man their opponent."

10/16/2006 3:14:43 AM

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"LoneSnark: Fascism exposes government control of the economy, Communism exposes government ownership of the economy."

WHOA, WHOA, WHOA. I've taken a break on the spelling thing because it got old. You're on point most of the time, but then BAM out of the blue, you come out with something crazy. EXPOSES?

I can see "Fascism exposes the economy to government control..." and "Fascism espouses government control of the economy..." but as you put it, no....

It's like you're some kinda genius or something who isn't used to having to express himself to other people.

10/16/2006 4:25:47 AM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/03/01/AR2006030102193.html

10/16/2006 11:33:40 AM

good thing that article was written 7 1/2 months ago.

10/16/2006 11:37:00 AM

Why you want to make us watch those po' boys get pwnt? ...

10/16/2006 1:36:05 PM

the true face of the left is a little old black lady

10/16/2006 4:57:48 PM

Boonedocks, your regulation post rocked.

10/16/2006 8:15:36 PM

i agree, with the only exception being that Carnegie didn't really rob America blind, as he was a big time philanthropist and did alot of for alot of people.

but overall, a kickass post.

10/16/2006 8:19:17 PM