thats now how i interpretted his sentence.

theres plenty of things you cant protect yourself from without force or some type of police force. that doesnt mean that you should need to take it upon yourself to solve said problems. ive been over my opinion on home defense a million times though in the other threads.

9/7/2006 2:32:24 PM

because i knew it would illicit a response


not quite the hook line and sinker i was waiting on


but still, not bad

9/7/2006 2:34:49 PM

Quote :

"i could take any matter into my own hands, but i think vigilante law has its downfalls"

i agree completely...but theres a huge difference in "vigilante law" and "protecting your loved ones if their lives are threatened"

and the statement about guns are made for police officers to kill...simply was an equally retarded argument to "counter" all of Troll####'s "arguments"

9/7/2006 2:35:23 PM

sometimes i cant tell the retarded comments from the real ones

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 2:37 PM. Reason : i need to play more saints row so i can live ur life virtually tree ]

9/7/2006 2:36:23 PM

haha Wolfpack Warriors 4 Life

9/7/2006 2:37:34 PM

Quote :

"criminals that you cant protect your own self from"

only pussies need guns. if you werent a pussy, you could take down the average criminal without lethal force.

Quote :

"except for babies they can die."

if by baby you mean embryo

pick up a dictionary.

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 3:35 PM. Reason : dfgh]

9/7/2006 3:35:02 PM

dp

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 3:38 PM. Reason : dp]

9/7/2006 3:38:17 PM

Quote :

"only pussies need guns. if you werent a pussy, you could take down the average criminal without lethal force. "

So, is it ok for me to have guns because I'm a girl and therefore immune from attacks against my masculinity and generally presumed to not be able to take down an average criminal?

Eh???

9/7/2006 3:42:48 PM

use a taser. youre a girl, so its doubtful you would be able to actually hit a moving traget. and most criminals move.

9/7/2006 3:43:40 PM

Quote :

"youre a girl, so its doubtful you would be able to actually hit a moving traget. and most criminals move."

ROFL

9/7/2006 3:45:38 PM

so josh numbers... would you rely on the police or your sheer masculinity to save you if your life was in danger?

9/7/2006 4:00:45 PM

^Lord knows I won't save him... My two X chromosomes prevent me from accurately and precisely pointing and firing a gun

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 4:07 PM. Reason : words]

9/7/2006 4:05:04 PM

do the police shoot people who steal on sight?

9/7/2006 4:09:23 PM

Quote :

"use a taser."

Tasers are lethal weapons.

9/7/2006 4:09:50 PM

^^not even for stealing...sometimes they shoot people on sight for doing cellphone repairs

http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15088061.htm

9/7/2006 4:10:13 PM

or reaching for their wallet...

9/7/2006 4:13:17 PM

Josh####s you still there?

9/7/2006 4:14:49 PM

Wait wait wait wait wait...

To Joshnumbers:

Quote :

"would you rely on the police or your sheer masculinity to save you if your life was in danger?"

His apparent reply:

Quote :

"do the police shoot people who steal on sight?"

WTF? Stealing shit does not by itself put your life in danger and does not warrant the use of lethal force, nor is it legal in most states to use lethal force to prevent someone from stealing something.

Josh, wtf are you talking about?

9/7/2006 4:24:04 PM

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"A Charlotte-Mecklenburg police officer shot and killed a cell phone tower worker early Thursday morning while the man was making a routine upgrade to the network. Police said Anthony Wayne Furr was carrying a gun at the time and refused to follow the officer's commands to put the gun down."

Yea......this story is really something that a gun nut would want to advertise.

Quote :

"would you rely on the police or your sheer masculinity to save you if your life was in danger"

neither. this is a girl posting. i accidently clicked M when I started the account.


[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 4:37 PM. Reason : dfgh]

9/7/2006 4:36:59 PM

Quote :

"Police said Anthony Wayne Furr was carrying a gun at the time and refused to follow the officer's commands to put the gun down.""

hey what do you know, the only witnesses were the cops...hmmm

course i'm sure this is the first time you've heard about this story...this story which has been all over charlotte radio and tv stations for the last month...but you know plenty about it im sure

9/7/2006 4:39:27 PM

Quote :

"all over charlotte radio and tv stations "

NCSU is located in raleigh

FYI

9/7/2006 4:41:57 PM

Quote :

"http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/15088061.htm"

k

hey look, here's some raleigh shit for you then

http://www.wral.com/news/9795879/detail.html

9/7/2006 4:42:48 PM

If he wasnt some douchebag with a gun, he wouldnt have been shot.

9/7/2006 4:45:02 PM

cops are so perfect, they go to a cell tower, see a van parked outside with the company name of a cellphone repair company, see somebody inside (in a bad neighborhood mind you) in a cellphone repair uniform, and shoot him

and somehow the only account of the incident is from the cops...cause you know, the other witness was dead since the cops shot and killed him...cant really get more than one side of the story here can we

9/7/2006 4:46:30 PM

So you dont want the police to have guns, just the citizens and criminals, because police kill people all day long and lie about it?

9/7/2006 4:48:36 PM

yeah i want the criminals to have guns...i explicitly said that

9/7/2006 4:52:09 PM

funny how in england, there is barely any gun violence. becuase.....MAYBE....there arent many guns in the entire country becuase they are illegal. the criminals dont have them, and the police dont need them.

9/7/2006 4:57:45 PM

Quote :

"funny how in england, there is barely any gun violence"

9/7/2006 5:05:15 PM

you are making things up

9/7/2006 5:06:17 PM

what am i making up?

now you on the other hand are making things up, for example

Quote :

"neither. this is a girl posting. i accidently clicked M when I started the account"

9/7/2006 5:07:46 PM

Everything I posted is true.

9/7/2006 5:09:11 PM

Quote :

"Josh8315: Everything I posted is true."

Quote :

"Josh8315: I am a homosexual."

9/7/2006 5:10:43 PM

Out of responses to my arguments. I win.

9/7/2006 5:11:25 PM

you might've won, but at least I'm not a homosexual like you admitted you were

9/7/2006 5:12:37 PM

I did win.

9/7/2006 5:15:01 PM

when you typed that were your wrists limp with clay aiken blaring out of your stereo

9/7/2006 5:19:21 PM

hes on your president's cabinet

9/7/2006 5:20:40 PM

you're in his closet

9/7/2006 5:21:29 PM

there is nothing immoral about being a lesbian.

9/7/2006 5:24:15 PM

most lesbians own and shoot guns

9/7/2006 5:25:12 PM

ive never met one that owned a gun.

9/7/2006 5:26:32 PM

Quote :

"do the police shoot people who steal on sight?"

nope... but in Texas an individual can use deadly force to protect personal property

which honestly, I have no problem with


and yes josh numbers... you're a male, or you were at some point in your life

so are you going to beat up someone endangering your life, or call the police and tell him, or her, to wait?

9/7/2006 6:04:39 PM

Quote :

"tell him, or her, to wait?"

People cant hear when they are unconscious.

9/7/2006 6:06:22 PM

why would they be unconscious?

9/7/2006 6:07:45 PM

blow to the head.

9/7/2006 6:09:48 PM

so you believe in using lethal force to subdue someone when your life is in danger?

9/7/2006 6:11:52 PM

not always.

[Edited on September 7, 2006 at 6:12 PM. Reason : 24]

9/7/2006 6:12:28 PM

I <3 escalation of force laws

9/7/2006 6:20:10 PM

Quote :

"funny how in england, there is barely any gun violence. becuase.....MAYBE....there arent many guns in the entire country becuase they are illegal. the criminals dont have them, and the police dont need them."

You must be joking. After England's sweeping gun bans, violent crime (including that committed with firearms) rose dramatically. There still isn't much in the country because, uh huh, there wasnt much before either. Or at least not comapred to here. The guns are not the problem.

While you are at it trying to dig up statistics to prove me wrong (you aernt going to find any), go ahead and research what happened in Australia after they confiscated over half the legally owned guns in the country. Hint: the crime rate did NOT improve.

9/7/2006 6:30:53 PM

What are the long run statistics in both cases? Specifically, did the increases in gun-related crime last? Or was it a temporary thing both law enforcement systems ultimately adjusted to?

9/7/2006 7:03:51 PM