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"Carson Palmer is clearly the 2nd best QB in the league, but look at the catches Chris Henry and Housh made for him last week. You can be the best QB in the world, but if guys cant make plays around you then it will only get you so far."

are you saying you think vick is the best qb in the league?


oh and:

Quote :

"Algae"

9/27/2006 10:28:35 AM

i think he's conceding that to Peyton

although I would say Tom Brady is the 2nd best QB in the league...you know with his 3 superbowl rings and all

9/27/2006 10:30:04 AM

ok just making sure

i'd say peyton and carson are the top two as well.

9/27/2006 10:31:51 AM

Hasselbeck is not too shabby either

or McNabb

9/27/2006 10:33:31 AM

yeah i mean this has been discussed ad nauseum, there are plenty of qb's in the league that are better than vick, even some backups. (his own, for one)

9/27/2006 10:36:51 AM

Vick should switch positions and stop riding the fence which makes him less effective at both running and passing! If he is so damn good at running, he should be a running back and stop trying to pretend he is awesome throwing the ball, b/c it's obvious he is nothing special!

9/27/2006 10:47:51 AM

ITS OBVIOUS

9/27/2006 10:49:42 AM

vick == stewart


just with the falcons anything better than mediocrity is ok, with the steelers it will get you hated on hardcore...

9/27/2006 10:51:21 AM

^/message_topic.aspx?topic=427189&page=2

[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 11:00 AM. Reason : ]

9/27/2006 11:00:00 AM

Quote :

"you guys honestly know nothing about the NFL. Do you think each QB plays 16 good games a season? He wasn't good last night but he definitely wasn't the reason they lost."

so wait, now he's not a golden god? how many good games should a golden god have per season?

You're right about a starting QB not needing to have 16 good games a season. I work near Charlotte, and everybody wants to rag on Delhomme all the time, for every loss. I try to tell them that the panthers don't need Jake to WIN 16 games a season, like a college QB. They just need him to not lose 8-12 games a season, maybe really step up and win 2-4...

9/27/2006 11:31:42 AM

if Vick is a "Golden God", there are probably 15 "Platinum Gods" in the league that I would take ahead of him if I were a manager and had my choice of any NFL QB for my team.... assuming of course I actually wanted to win a championship instead of suck one players balls

9/27/2006 11:34:58 AM

- Peyton Manning
- Tom Brady
- Carson Palmer
- Donovan McNabb
- Matt Hasselbeck

maybe if we're lucky we can get rally to admit Vick is not a top 5 quarterback

I'm sure he would laugh at people like McNair or Trent Green (without a concussion) even though they are clearly better passers

9/27/2006 11:50:01 AM

^hell, so far this year Rex fucking Grossman makes Vick look like shit.

9/27/2006 6:05:57 PM

^
Not so fast my friend. Rex played the packers and detroit. The teams who are probably top worst in pass coverage.

9/27/2006 6:12:15 PM

^doesn't really matter, considering Vick can't hit open WRs...they might as well be covered anyway.

9/27/2006 6:15:59 PM

^

You could just as easily have typed "youre right, im wrong" because thats essentially what you said anyways.

9/27/2006 6:25:06 PM

McNabb > all

9/27/2006 6:27:36 PM

^^you could have just as easily typed, "I love dicks", because we all know that's true. Fuck off.

oh, and just so no one forgets:

Rex Grossman>Mike Vick

[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 6:45 PM. Reason : ,]

9/27/2006 6:44:21 PM

Im sure nobody will forget your false statement kid. Ill help spread the word.

9/27/2006 6:51:54 PM

^what he said.

9/28/2006 1:05:42 PM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                 Season One
PASSING:
Att 	Comp 	Pct 	Yards 	YPA 	Lg 	TD 	Int 	Tkld 	20+ 	40+ 	Rate
387	214	55.3	2412	6.23	58	15	13	33/201	27	3	73.1

RUSHING:
Att 	Yards 	Avg 	Lg 	TD 	20+ 	FD
102	597	5.9	32	6	5	41

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                 Season Two
PASSING:
Att 	Comp 	Pct 	Yards 	YPA 	Lg 	TD 	Int 	Tkld 	20+ 	40+ 	Rate
442	266	60.2	3109	7.03	90	14	11	29/175	44	6	81.7

RUSHING:
Att 	Yards 	Avg 	Lg 	TD 	20+ 	FD
96	537	5.6	48	5	5	33


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                 Season Three
PASSING:
Att 	Comp 	Pct 	Yards 	YPA 	Lg 	TD 	Int 	Tkld 	20+ 	40+ 	Rate
421	231	54.9	2936	6.97	74	16	8	33/206	44	8	81.6

RUSHING:
Att 	Yards 	Avg 	Lg 	TD 	20+ 	FD
113	777	6.9	46	8	10	44

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                 Season Four
PASSING:
Att 	Comp 	Pct 	Yards 	YPA 	Lg 	TD 	Int 	Tkld 	20+ 	40+ 	Rate
440	236	53.6	3020	6.86	69	21	17	20/152	40	10	75.2

RUSHING:
Att 	Yards 	Avg 	Lg 	TD 	20+ 	FD
88	476	5.4	74	11	3	43

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

9/28/2006 2:22:27 PM

haha I know whose stats those are

9/28/2006 8:00:39 PM

Which are pointless, because nobody has said Vick is a good passer.

9/28/2006 8:05:57 PM

Which makes him less than stellar as a QB.


If my job as a cashier is to smile and be friendly, but to also be pinpoint accurate with cash, and all I can do is smile and be friendly (ie, my till always counts out $15 or more short) then I'm not a very good cashier, am I?

9/28/2006 8:17:36 PM

I'm sure you think you're super clever in coming up with it, but that's a ridiculously dumb analogy.

9/28/2006 9:06:08 PM

I'm just trying to make an analogy that might sink in for the Chili's manager.

As for Rally, well... all I can tell him is that there are sports news outlets out there not named ESPN.

9/28/2006 9:19:02 PM

hell even ESPN admits they're wrong after it gets proven countless times

9/28/2006 11:02:36 PM

^^ ftw

aha

9/28/2006 11:11:25 PM

^^^haha, you act like you are trolling me. I like working in a restaurant and I chose that job. I graduated last summer and I have a degree, but I don't really need a job that pays really well, and I enjoy what I do, so I really don't care if you knock it. If I did, I would have never told you what I do. My mom pays for all my shit, and I mainly just work there to have something to do and have some extra cash.

9/28/2006 11:19:24 PM

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"My mom pays for all my shit"

What a minute, this ain't about football.

Nevermind.

9/28/2006 11:29:53 PM

Quote :

"My mom pays for all my shit"

9/28/2006 11:35:44 PM

Quote :

"and I chose that job"

...over applebee's

9/28/2006 11:37:18 PM

Summary

Chili's > Applebees

Vick > Grossman


Moderator , please close the thread.

9/28/2006 11:47:01 PM

Wow, great comeback.

9/28/2006 11:47:06 PM

so far this year:

grossman > vick

and it has the potential to stay that way

9/29/2006 12:10:30 AM

^ you people are so fucking retarded its hard to tell when youre trolling and not.

9/29/2006 12:16:38 AM

dang.... if "my mom pays for all my shit" i dont think i would feel i had earned the right to have much of any opinion of much of anything...

9/29/2006 12:21:06 AM

lol

i'd take vick over grossman right now, but grossman really has looked better than vick so far this year

i'll wait til he plays some real defenses though

[Edited on September 29, 2006 at 12:47 AM. Reason : ]

9/29/2006 12:47:14 AM

^^Great, I really don't care.

9/29/2006 12:57:46 AM

Vick choked on applesauce monday night

9/29/2006 2:44:29 AM

100 yards rushing. Blowout victory.



*crickets*

10/1/2006 8:21:40 PM

Yeah he really did dominate. Some of his stats don't show it, but if you happened to watch the game, he set up a lot of scores by the plays he made.

Oh, and once again the Falcons D was just fucking SICK.

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:23 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2006 8:23:01 PM

hahahahahahaha





they played the Cardinals

10/1/2006 8:31:11 PM

ahahahahahahahaha


Remember when they fucking straight up OWNED the Panthers in the first game?



hahahahahahahahaha

10/1/2006 8:32:24 PM

you were probably too busy out spending your mommies money to realize the panthers were playing w/out their best player and pretty much only source of offense.... plus, in that game Vick was 10/22 for 140 yards passing, and only 48 yards rushing.... since this thread is about Vick being a god I think it's important to point out those arent "God like" numbers



one last point, Vick's QB rating is 23rd in the leaque as of last week(72.5), and going 13/22 for 153 yards and 1 interception isn't gonna raise it very much!

10/1/2006 8:42:46 PM

^so what? his team won in a blowout and he rushed 100+ yards. It may be hard to wrap your pea brain around it, but it's ok for a QB to win with his legs.

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:46 PM. Reason : sdf]

10/1/2006 8:46:05 PM

Quote :

"you were probably too busy out spending your mommies money to realize the panthers were playing w/out their best player and pretty much only source of offense"

So how does that explain Vick dominating their D?

And once again, nobody on here is bragging about his passing you idiot.

10/1/2006 8:46:11 PM

The quarterback's primary function is to pass the football successfully.

10/1/2006 8:50:27 PM

No, the QBs primary function is to lead his team you fuck.

Quote :

"The quarterback is a position in the offensive backfield of American and Canadian football, directly behind players of the "line". He is generally the leader on the field, responsible for initiating play by receiving the snap of the ball from the center. For that purpose he lines up behind the center. The quarterback is considered to be the most important position in football. "

[Edited on October 1, 2006 at 8:51 PM. Reason : .]

10/1/2006 8:50:52 PM

Vick sure looked like a leader against the Saints.

10/1/2006 8:51:40 PM