Hadrian's Fence?

10/27/2006 8:37:31 AM

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"I'd say that illegal immigrants are still a net gain to our economy even factoring that some of them don't pay the correct amount of taxes and use our social and medical services illegally. That's a really hard number to pin down, and it really can't be done with any reasonable degree of accuracy. Call it a hunch."

You're automatically an idiot then. That's what treedipshitsta is gonna say. Clearly, only he can have opinions, everyone else has to prove them.

10/27/2006 8:39:02 AM

how come the same people that want Americans to pay more and more tax dollars every year aren't concerned with the amount of tax money that this country could be receiving from these immigrants


12-20 million illegal immigrants (govt est) could provide a significant chunk of change to the tax base

I don't care how many come into the country, just be legal, and pay your taxes like everyone else has to

10/27/2006 8:40:34 AM

The fence is a joke. It's an election year bandaid to distract the voters from the fact that they haven't had the balls to do anything else in 6 years ...

10/27/2006 8:41:46 AM

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"how come the same people that want Americans to pay more and more tax dollars every year aren't concerned with the amount of tax money that this country could be receiving from these immigrants"

Who are those people? Better question - why are you erroneously labeling people again?

And as far as "being concerned about more tax money", I think the economic benefits we get from them FAR FAR FAR outweighs the tax money we aren't getting.

10/27/2006 8:45:02 AM

I didn't label you


calm down



ANGER CONTROL

btw, the standard pay illegal immigrants were making down east priming tobacco this summer was $140 per day

I know, I tried to hire some for a thinning operation my company was doing in Lenoir county and was bluntly told that I'd have to beat that to find a mexican anywhere for 100 miles



[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 8:47 AM. Reason : .]

10/27/2006 8:45:36 AM

Look, the calm down comments and anger control statements are worthless.

Who are the people in this thread that you are claiming are for high taxes? Please don't make non sequitor comments. You want to tell me I am the one starting problems, when you (and your cronies) have no problem making ambiguous, inflammatory statements. You were getting pissed at me saying I was scolding you for your opinions. This isn't the case of an opinion when you have characterized people incorrectly for the basis of making some comment or posing a question.

And then you people get upset when I tell you that you don't belong here.

10/27/2006 8:56:57 AM

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"Look, the calm down comments and anger control statements are worthless."

Yeah, they seem to make you angrier.

10/27/2006 9:08:31 AM

My heart rate problem doesn't get much out of the 50s the whole day. You guys are pretty dumb to literally take double spaced caps typing as angry. It's mostly boredom and for fun when I do that.

10/27/2006 9:12:50 AM

it always is...


anyways, back on point

I wasn't saying it was YOU, there are people, usually from the left... you know, the ones that think americans should be paying more and more in taxes every year, that feel the border should be open to allow ILLEGAL immigrants to come over here work, send their kids to school, use our medical facilities, enjoy our roads, our way of life, without having the share the burden that the rest of us has bear.

I just can't see how my opinion on this is such a bad thing

10/27/2006 9:21:15 AM

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"how come the same people that want Americans to pay more and moreless and less tax dollars every year aren't concerned with the amount of tax money that this country could be receiving from these immigrants"

Fixed it for ya

10/27/2006 9:24:01 AM

I wasn't talking about you, I've assumed from your posts that you're a libertarian, maybe a left leaning libertarian, but a libertarian nonetheless

10/27/2006 9:25:22 AM

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"that feel the border should be open to allow ILLEGAL immigrants to come over here work"

If the border was truly open such that it allowed people to come over here to work then they wouldn't be illegal when they came over would they?

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 9:37 AM. Reason : : to convey jovial remark.]

10/27/2006 9:26:21 AM

everyone knows that they're not supposed to cross it illegally, but they do


it's a joke to them how easy it can be to get across in places

they showed some on tv the other night coming across on an elephant with a mariachi band

and the guards did nothing to stop them

it should be cut off completely to illegals, then deal with the problem already here and install a worker program





[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 9:49 AM. Reason : ..]

10/27/2006 9:30:44 AM

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"You're automatically an idiot then. That's what treedipshitsta is gonna say"

another intelligent post by State409c

10/27/2006 9:47:51 AM

I'd say it was. Why are you and your ass pirate friend trrrrrrikk the only ones that make those type of comments? I think it's pretty clear who is more intelligent among the three of us.

10/27/2006 9:50:16 AM

clearly the poster calling people ass pirates is the most intelligent

10/27/2006 9:54:00 AM

I say make english the official language and begin assimilation programs.

But thats just me.

10/27/2006 9:55:04 AM

clearly!!!

You're a clown dude. Get over it. Despite your best intentions, your utter lack of communicating correctly what you are thinking just submarines any possible chance you had at seeming intelligent.

I'll ask again. Are you trolling (and I'll admit, doing quite a good job at it) or are you just dumb?

10/27/2006 9:59:37 AM

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"they showed some on tv the other night coming across on an elephant with a mariachi band"

I'm pretty sure it was Republican congressional representative.

Even though I don't care about illegal immigration, that was a really good way to get his/her point across.

10/27/2006 10:20:48 AM

well, the congressman was there filming it and yelling at the border guards to do their job

that was a few weeks ago, I was drunk in a hotel down east

but I haven't heard anything about it since

or was he on the elephant?

10/27/2006 10:22:58 AM

I don't know, I just heard it mentioned on the radio.

10/27/2006 10:43:54 AM

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"Are you trolling (and I'll admit, doing quite a good job at it) or are you just dumb?"

....i mean...

10/27/2006 10:47:09 AM

pad

10/27/2006 10:57:44 AM

is that anything different?

10/27/2006 11:02:24 AM

It added about as much value is your comment right before mine. In fact, it actually added more, because at least it wasn't ambiguous, unlike your comment.

10/27/2006 11:10:23 AM

sure thing

10/27/2006 11:16:36 AM

Feel free to actually add something to the thread at your earliest convenience.

10/27/2006 11:26:08 AM

same to you homie

10/27/2006 11:36:26 AM

both of you are retarded

10/27/2006 11:37:53 AM

You just joined the party good sir.

10/27/2006 11:40:13 AM

Seriously, you both stop responding to threads without adding anything except a personal insult or a "witty jab"

I can't believe I'm going to have to tell you "if you can't say anything nice (constructive) don't say anything at all"

10/27/2006 11:40:22 AM

I hate that the threads turn to crap. I really do. But my hope here is that at some point, duke wakes the fuck up and kicks these assholes out.

Sure, I could be the bigger man and not respond to them, but that doesn't stop them from shitting up the threads and they will, every single time. I said it in the other thread, as soon as I point out a flaw in logic, or point out they don't know what they are talking about, the flaming begins. Nearly every day, I give them a new slate. I start out by responding cordially, but its usually that guy that starts in with the attacks, and basically echoing everything I ever talk shit to them about, which is in and of itself lame (and reeks of trolling).

I haven't once seen twista admit that he got something wrong, or his understanding of something was wrong.


I don't know anyone else here that likes them?

10/27/2006 11:55:06 AM

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"Sure, I could be the bigger man and not respond to them"

you havent once shown you're capable of that

10/27/2006 11:56:44 AM

Sure I did. I think I went a full day not responding to you.

You remember having to ask that bullshit "prove the admin is more interested in language manip than governing" four times because I just wasn't responding to you?

Why are you such a troll? You really are moronic man. I'm just the only one bored and asshole enough to tell you about it.

10/27/2006 11:59:18 AM

Why are YOU such a troll?

You think you're so intelligent and you think everybody else is such an idiot, but you fail to realize that you are guilty of all the same shit you criticize people for

you just dont get it

10/27/2006 12:04:05 PM

i'm thinking that i support this fence as long as they do it right and make it effective

as for building 700 miles along a 2000 mile border, i think this allows them to take a good number of agents who were patrolling that 700 miles and redistribute them along the rest of the 1300 miles so maybe it'll actually help out

however, i do support letting the ones who are already here, who have a job and are paying taxes, to stay and earn citizenship

10/27/2006 12:06:34 PM

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"You think you're so intelligent and you think everybody else is such an idiot"

Just from recent memory, those that are not idiots

McDanger
bgmims
LoneSnark
Kris
synapse
cyrion
1337 b4ka
dentaldam
Gamecat
Erios
Sand Santa
nastoute


just to name a few.

10/27/2006 1:24:34 PM

McDanger is an idiot

i have no idea why you would list him first on the non-idiots list

10/27/2006 1:27:13 PM

Yea, it's obvious you're a troll when you make comments like that, or you are just dumb. I'll ask again, which is it, because it's definitely one of the two?

McD is working on a masters in something engineering related. You're a pothead who is on the intarweb all day.

He has a strong mastery of epistemology (not an easy subject). You knowledge of it will begin when you head over to google.

10/27/2006 1:29:48 PM

you must have some man crush on McDanger

either that or you're him

because plenty of people you consider idiots already have masters degrees

I'm going more along the lines that if you search the last year or so in Feedback Forum, there are about a half dozen threads that request him to be suspended for trolling

but again, all you do is come in here and belittle me

blah blah blah blah you are like a broken record

10/27/2006 1:32:49 PM

haha..true...i have two masters.....MAC and MBA....im clearly a massive idiot

10/27/2006 1:33:48 PM

and i didnt argue with anyone else on that list

just McDanger

so are you him or are you two gay lovers?

10/27/2006 1:34:44 PM

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"haha..true...i have two masters.....MAC and MBA....im clearly a massive idiot"

From Strayer?

For someone that hasn't ever added any insightful commentary about economic issues on this site, I'm gonna go ahead and call a massive BS on that one big guy. You aren't fooling anyone. Stop trolling. Get the fuck out, etc.

10/27/2006 1:40:38 PM

get this shit out of soap box. talk in PM's if you're going to do this stupid shit. all of you.

10/27/2006 1:40:49 PM

^^

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"Stop trolling. Get the fuck out, etc."

10/27/2006 1:45:49 PM

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"I'm going more along the lines that if you search the last year or so in Feedback Forum, there are about a half dozen threads that request him to be suspended for trolling"

So is he a troll or an idiot? Do you understand logic?

10/27/2006 1:48:50 PM

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"From Strayer?"

from State....

10/27/2006 1:49:56 PM

This will be a waste. Immediately after completion, the thing will be covered in grafitti and most of the barbed wire will be stolen.

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .]

10/27/2006 1:51:26 PM

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"I'm going more along the lines that if you search the last year or so in Feedback Forum, there are about a half dozen threads that request him to be suspended for trolling"

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"156 Feedback Forum Suspend McDanger (Page 2) TreeTwista10 6/23/2006 12:38:38 PM 156 Feedback Forum Make Soapbox worthwhile again: mcdanger for mod Fermat 5/24/2006 10:34:22 PM 156 Feedback Forum Free McDanger UJustWait84 3/21/2006 12:28:58 AM 156 Feedback Forum Warn McDanger TypeA 8/11/2005 12:47:02 PM 156 Feedback Forum UNSUSPEND MCDANGER ktmargs 4/18/2005 12:56:53 AM 156 Feedback Forum Suspend McDanger! spookyjon 2/10/2005 2:10:45 AM 156 Feedback Forum Suspend McDanger Nuoq 2/10/2005 2:09:33 AM 156 Feedback Forum suspend McDanger breakthrough 10/23/2004 1:15:54 PM"

4 threads in 2 years?!

Riiiiiiggghtttt

10/27/2006 1:52:06 PM