http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/article2175028.ece

Quote :

"Israelis prepare public for conflict with 'genocidal' Iranian regime By Anne Penketh in Herzliya, Israel Published: 22 January 2007 Senior Israeli politicians and analysts appear to be preparing the public for military conflict with Iran as the Iranian President again refused to bow to international demands to curb its nuclear ambitions, and Tehran announced fresh military manoeuvres."

And the Western Jewish-controlled "mainstream" media is doing it's part to prepare us for the conflict as well with the now almost non-stop propaganda about how Iran is a "threat." "Iran's trying to get WMDs. Their leader is the next Hitler. We must attack to protect Israel!"


http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3355234,00.html

Quote :

"Ex-US official: Bush would approve Iran attack Richard Perle says, ‘If strike on Iran required US participation for success, president would agree' Yaakov Lappin Published: 01.21.07, 23:53 If all options were exhausted in the attempt to stop the Iranian nuclear project, and US military involvement was needed for a successful strike on Tehran, US President George Bush would give the green light for the operation, former director of the US Defense Policy Board Advisory Committee, Richard Perle, told the Herzliya Conference on Sunday evening."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=119931

Quote :

"Ex-PM Netanyahu Calls on World to Stop Iran Jan 21, '07 by Hillel Fendel Speaking Sunday at the prestigious Herzliya Conference, Netanyahu said, "I want to call upon the world, which did not stop the Holocaust, to try and stop the one that Iran is planning: Stop investments in Iran - in order to stop a genocide."

OH NO! ANOTHER HOAXACAUST!!

Quote :

"Stop Iran from what? Building nuclear bombs? Nobody has found any proof they are making weapons. The IAEA inspectors which are welcome in Iran (but not Israel) confirm that Iran is building a power station. Underneath Iran's power reactor is ... dirt. Underneath Israel's reactor is ... a weapons laboratory. Netanyahu ought to lay off the "Holocaust" link for two reasons. First, it's already been proven that Ahmadinajad did not actually say what Israel's supporters are claiming he said. Second, WE ARE ALL SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THE %$#@% HOLOCAUST ALREADY! Please stop living in the past. We have crimes against humanity taking place TODAY that we should be dealing with ... like the one in Palestine. Israel seems hell bent on starting yet another war for American kids to die in, and sadly, Congress seems eager to help them do it."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/


WE MUST ATTACK IRAN NOW! THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS AND THE MEDIA INTIONIONALLY MISQUOTED AHMADINEJAD TO MAKE US BELIEVE HE WANTS TO DESTROY ISRAEL. IT'S ANOTHER HOAXACAUST. THIS IS SERIOUS FOLKS.


[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 12:43 PM. Reason : ``]

1/22/2007 12:25:01 PM

Why would an inspiring 33rd degree mason like myself give 2 shits what a punk like yourself thinks? You don't run shit, and nobody will ever believe you because our tactics are just better than yours...the truth doesnt matter...what matters is we have the public believing us, and thinking you are just some loonies...well fuck off, I'll see you in hell!

1/22/2007 12:47:40 PM

Quote :

"Why would an inspiring 33rd degree mason like myself..."

So do you really aspire to be a 33rd degree mason?

1/22/2007 1:03:10 PM

well i've been stuck at 32 so of course!

1/22/2007 1:04:05 PM

Zionist media must be fabricating this story

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/01/22/iran.president.ap/index.html?eref=rss_world

1/22/2007 1:05:02 PM

Countries all over the world test missiles all the time...including the United States, Russia, Israel, and many other nations. The U.S. probably tests missiles dozens (or hundreds) of times a year.

So why should we make a big deal of Iran testing missiles? Because the Jewish establishment wants us to attack Iran, of course.

1/22/2007 1:14:38 PM

yeah Russia is still such a superpower, they test missiles all the time...hey did you see that new Star Wars movie? I think its called Return of the Jedi...its brand new

1/22/2007 1:16:27 PM

While I usually find salisburyboy's theories a bit off kilter, I wouldn't put this one out of the realm of possibility. It would be in Israel's best interest to have the US confront the Iranian threat since we are already in theater and have much more powerful resources at hand. It's always better to let someone fight your wars for you... from an economic, political and human cost estimate .

1/22/2007 1:28:34 PM

Jewish Zionists don't control the media?

Check out this admission...

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3281253,00.html

Quote :

"Study: Economic concerns to trigger anti-Semitism in US, Germany Ynetnews 07.25.06 [...] Dr. Herndon emphasized the need to be proactive. “Media exists to manage feelings. Our results strongly suggest that Jewish and Israeli organizations, in particular, are in the process of rapidly losing control of their PR initiatives. Opinion leaders in both the US and Europe must not stand-by passively as these trends develop.”"

What could be causing the Zionists to lose control of their media and public relations initiatives?

Hmmmm....The internet and acess to non-Jewish-controlled "mainstream" media?

1/22/2007 1:31:22 PM

nobody gives a fuck about your off the wall bullshit

theres a lot more entertaining bullshit on the internet

1/22/2007 1:32:35 PM

If you "don't care" treetwista, then stop posting in this thread.

Thanks.

1/22/2007 1:33:20 PM

Quote :

"Media exists to manage feelings. Our results strongly suggest that Jewish and Israeli organizations, in particular, are in the process of rapidly losing control of their PR initiatives."

Public relations initiatives are not analogous to media.

Your post does nothing but prove your lack of reading comprehension skills.

Keep swinging, little buddy.

1/22/2007 1:40:04 PM

keep trolling joshua

1/22/2007 1:43:35 PM

Keep smearing anyone who points out your blatant errors.

Seriously, your hypocrisy is one of the funniest things about your posts.

[Edited on January 22, 2007 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

1/22/2007 1:46:36 PM

If you wish to discuss this issue substantively, Mr. Joshua, why don't you please tell us how the Zionists and Israel are not the primary groups pushing for war with Iran? Because all the evidence shows this, and if it's not the case, please enlighten us as to the truth.

1/22/2007 1:49:56 PM

your batshit websites are the only ones pushing for this war

1/22/2007 2:29:26 PM

If you really want a serious discussion, salisburyboy, why don't you please stop slandering and then immediately changing the subject whenever someone points out an obvious flaw in your logic.

Now please explain how the existance of PR initiatives indicates a control of the media.

Or you could look at page 2 of this thread and explain the jews control the media despite the fact that no news networks are owned by jews.

Of course, you won't explain either. You'll just slander me for questioning you and then resume pasting articles the you found hotlinked from rense.com.

1/22/2007 3:29:36 PM

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007030580,00.html

Quote :

"Israel is ready to blitz Iran From TREVOR KAVANAGH in Israel JANUARY 23, 2007 ISRAEL is ready to blitz Iran within months unless the mullahs ditch their nukes programme, it emerged last night. The tiny Jewish state will go it alone if necessary to stop fanatics in Tehran getting the technology to build a bomb — now likely within a year. It has enough warplanes and precision missiles to wipe out Iran’s key labs and factories — even those in bomb-proof concrete deep underground. And its intelligence has pinpointed key locations, despite Iranian attempts to hide them. A defence expert in Israel said last night: “If they put them under a mountain, we will know which mountain.” The strike threat, which emerged in private briefings at a high-powered conference on Middle East security near Tel Aviv, will horrify world leaders still arguing over Iraq. But senior unnamed sources made it clear that only a climb-down by Iran can now avert war. The question last night was whether an attack would get the all-clear from US President George Bush — or if America will strike first. [...]"

1/23/2007 8:02:37 AM

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-iraniraq23jan23,0,4316481.story?coll=la-home-headlines

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"Scant evidence found of Iran-Iraq arms link U.S. warnings of advanced weaponry crossing the border are overstated, critics say By Alexandra Zavis and Greg Miller, Times Staff Writers January 23, 2007 BAQUBAH, IRAQ — If there is anywhere Iran could easily stir up trouble in Iraq, it would be in Diyala, a rugged province along the border between the two nations. The combination of Sunni Arab militants believed to be affiliated with Al Qaeda and Shiite Muslim militiamen with ties to Iran has fueled waves of sectarian and political violence here. The province is bisected by long-traveled routes leading from Iran to Baghdad and Shiite holy cities farther south in Iraq. But even here, evidence of Iranian involvement in Iraq's troubles is limited. U.S. troops have found mortars and antitank mines with Iranian markings dated 2006, said U.S. Army Col. David W. Sutherland, who oversees the province. But there has been little sign of more advanced weaponry crossing the border, and no Iranian agents have been found. In his speech this month outlining the new U.S. strategy in Iraq, President Bush promised to "seek out and destroy" Iranian networks that he said were providing "advanced weaponry and training to our enemies." He is expected to strike a similar note in tonight's State of the Union speech. For all the aggressive rhetoric, however, the Bush administration has provided scant evidence to support these claims. Nor have reporters traveling with U.S. troops seen extensive signs of Iranian involvement. During a recent sweep through a stronghold of Sunni insurgents here, a single Iranian machine gun turned up among dozens of arms caches U.S. troops uncovered. British officials have similarly accused Iran of meddling in Iraqi affairs, but say they have not found Iranian-made weapons in areas they patrol. The lack of publicly disclosed evidence has led to questions about whether the administration is overstating its case. Some suggest Bush and his aides are pointing to Iran to deflect blame for U.S. setbacks in Iraq. Others suggest they are laying the foundation for a military strike against Iran. Before invading Iraq, the administration warned repeatedly that Saddam Hussein was developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. Those statements proved wrong. The administration's charges about Iran sound uncomfortably familiar to some. "To be quite honest, I'm a little concerned that it's Iraq again," Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV, head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, said last week, referring to the administration's comments on Iran. "

1/23/2007 12:47:24 PM

Not that it really refutes or supports your point (whatever that is), but I thought this part at the end of the article was interesting...

Quote :

"... Opinion in Israel is divided, with leaders including Deputy PM Shimon Peres, calling for restraint. But any move to stop Iran getting the bomb would be welcomed by neighbouring Arab states, mostly rival Sunnis. Egypt and Jordan have already signalled they would not allow Iran to be the only nuclear power in the region."

So a) at least not everyone in Israel is gung-ho about wiping Iran off the map, and b) interesting that Israel might have some support from nations in the region. Course, whether that translates to military support should a conflict really happen, I dunno. But still, interesting.

1/23/2007 12:53:15 PM

Quote :

"If you really want a serious discussion, salisburyboy, why don't you please stop slandering and then immediately changing the subject whenever someone points out an obvious flaw in your logic. Now please explain how the existance of PR initiatives indicates a control of the media. Or you could look at page 2 of this thread and explain the jews control the media despite the fact that no news networks are owned by jews."

Heaven forbid there ever be serious discussion in a salisburyboy thread.

1/23/2007 2:44:12 PM

I heard that the illumanati are present day descendents of Atlantis. There is an interesting connection/theory linking the two.

[Edited on January 31, 2007 at 11:42 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2007 11:41:07 PM

all this proxy fighting in iraq and rising tensions are going to lead to a war. gg new york money people

2/1/2007 3:27:31 PM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=YXKIEPPGSTE2FQFIQMGCFFOAVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/02/11/wiran511.xml

Quote :

"Pentagon blames Iran for 170 US deaths By David Blair, Diplomatic Correspondent February 12, 2007 America today blamed Iran for the deaths of 170 US troops inside Iraq, accusing Teheran of supplying insurgents with increasingly sophisticated bombs."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

Quote :

" HOW LUCKY FOR THE US MEDIA THAT THIS BOMB SUPPOSEDLY MADE IN IRAN BEARS ENGLISH MARKINGS Also, Iran gets its weapons, including mortars, from Russia. Russian mortars do NOT use 81MM rounds! They use 82mm. AND, Modern Iran uses a solar Hijri calendar that is 621 years less than the Western solar calendar, so if this munition were really made in Iran. the date should read 1385, rather than 2006! The Bovine Excrement meter just exploded."

haha


http://news.independent.co.uk/world/politics/article2261526.ece

Quote :

"Target Tehran: Washington sets stage for a new confrontation By Patrick Cockburn Published: 12 February 2007 The United States is moving closer to war with Iran by accusing the "highest levels" of the Iranian government of supplying sophisticated roadside bombs that have killed 170 US troops and wounded 620. The allegations against Iran are similar in tone and credibility to those made four years ago by the US government about Iraq possessing weapons of mass destruction in order to justify the invasion of 2003. Senior US defence officials in Baghdad, speaking on condition of anonymity, said they believed the bombs were manufactured in Iran and smuggled across the border to Shia militants in Iraq. [...] The evidence against Iran is even more insubstantial than the faked or mistaken evidence for Iraqi WMDs disseminated by the US and Britain in 2002 and 2003. The allegations appear to be full of exaggerations."

[Edited on February 12, 2007 at 12:10 PM. Reason : ``]

2/12/2007 12:08:44 PM

OH MY GOD IT'S HAPPENING

IT'S ALL COMING TRUE


YOU WERE RIGHT


YOU WERE RIIIIIIIGHT

2/12/2007 12:20:57 PM

THIS IS SERIOUS FOLKS! IRAN IS A THREAT!1 THEY'RE TRYING TO GET N00KULAR WEAPONS!! THAT'S W-M-D'S PEOPLE. I HEAR THEY ALREADY HAVE ALUMINUM TUBES!! THEY MAY BE TRYING TO GET NIGER YELLOWCAKE JUST LIKE IRAQ DID!!

AND THEIR PRESIDENT IS THE NEXT HITLER!! HE SAID HE WANTS TO PERPETRATE ANOTHER HOLOCAUST ON THE JEWS!!

WE MUST ATTACK IRAN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

2/12/2007 12:31:41 PM

You and the goddamned Zionism again! Aren't there any other conspiracies worthy of your scrutiny? Ever heard of Area 51?

2/12/2007 12:49:09 PM

this is real folks

2/12/2007 12:51:59 PM

I haven't read any of this thread, but I have to say, the language and media hype that has started surrounding the posturing for war against Iran sounds eerily similar to the days leading up to the Iraqi war.

2/12/2007 12:53:45 PM

salisburyboy,
i hope you let this thread be an example to you of how you have killed your credibility

2/12/2007 12:54:55 PM

Who can't see throught this bullshit? First they were claiming that Iran was "trying to get nukes." Then they turned to demonizing Ahmadinejad, including misrepresenting statements he made regarding Israel to make him seem like the "next Hitler." Now, it's "oh Iran is arming the insurgents." They are grasping at straws to find a pretext to go to war with Iran. They've made up their mind to go to war...and all the claims about the "threats" are lies. It was the same bullshit with Iraq...."WMDs"..."violating UN resolutions"..."bringing freedom to Iraq"...etc.

Look. The elite Jewish/Zionist interests that control the U.S. government (and media) want war. They are working to destroy and bankrupt America, while working towards global government and consolidating power and control in their hands. War is very profitable for the elite banks, arms manufacturers, etc. War and chaos is used to weaken and bankrupt the U.S.....and subdue nations like Iraq and Iran that will not willingly submit to the agenda of these elite Zionist interests...ie, the "new world order."

2/12/2007 1:01:29 PM

Your first paragraph makes sense. Your second one doesn't.

2/12/2007 1:09:14 PM

Your first paragraph makes sense. Your second one doesn't.

2/12/2007 1:28:41 PM

Quote :

"Your first paragraph makes sense. Your second one doesn't."

So what are you disputing? That elite Jewish Zionist interests control the U.S. government? That whoever controls the U.S. government (whatever elite/special interest that might be) is actively working to destory America (eg, open borders, North American Union plans, bankrupting the nation with war, etc)? That the elite interests controlling the U.S. government are pushign a globalist agenda which they refer to as the "new world order"? Or all of the above?

2/12/2007 1:43:33 PM

All of the above. You have the result correct, but not the cause. You're giving these interest way too much credit. They aren't that smart.

[Edited on February 12, 2007 at 1:46 PM. Reason : a]

2/12/2007 1:46:25 PM

So the American people actually control their own government? They're the ones who want open borders and want to continue the Iraq war?

It couldn't be the powers-that-be behind the scenes with all the money and power who are truly being represented by the politicians?

2/12/2007 1:51:47 PM

Quote :

"It couldn't be the powers-that-be behind the scenes with all the money and power who are truly being represented by the politicians?"

These are people too!

2/12/2007 1:57:00 PM

Quote :

"That elite Jewish Zionist interests control the U.S. government?"

State409c, you are smart enough. You can dispute the rest, but what I quoted above is a known fact.

Feith, Wolfowitz, Pearle, Pipes, etc., all hard-core Zionists with at best, equal, and at worst, stronger allegiance to Israel.

These names ring a bell? These are the people who produced "intelligence" that Bush bought because he is a dummy, and it led to war.

These people were working with Benjamin Netanyahu of all people back in 1999 trying to figure out how to push war with Iraq.

Look it up.

2/12/2007 2:52:47 PM

im not going to disagree that there are a lot of "zionists" with unprecedented control in the government but the idea that they are actively trying to destroy this country through some organized plan of action is just bonkers

truly batshit crazy

2/12/2007 4:15:06 PM

Just to clarify - the zionists want to destroy america and make it part of the new world order because they are still pissed about esau selling his birthright for some beans and the only remedy for the problem is for them to take over the world?

2/12/2007 4:34:48 PM

This Jewish Zionist cabal is working to destroy America & the West and take over the world because they are Satanists. Research the Talmud and the Babylonian occult roots of the religion of "Judaism." Now, most Jewish people do not know the true nature of the religion of Judaism, but the elite Jewish establishment surely does. These people are literal soldiers of Satan....working to conquer the world for Satan, and bring in one-world religion and world government.

"I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan" --Revelation 2:9

2/13/2007 7:56:56 AM

oh jesus christ

the next time you make a thread about something real, just look back at this thread to understand why everyone is trolling you

2/13/2007 7:59:17 AM

I'm mildly confused how

on the one hand, they are the invisible hand that is driving all the decisions

and

on the other hand, they are trying to destroy the US and the west


DOES NOT COMPUTE

2/13/2007 8:30:28 AM

I realize it's "kooky" by today's politically correct standards to talk about the reality of God and Satan, the reality of the spiritual world, and good and evil in that context. But so be it. I'm not afraid to discuss those realities. And I'm not afraid to be labelled a "kook" by ignoramuses like you for it.

2/13/2007 8:32:10 AM

I'm not sure who you were replying to.

2/13/2007 9:27:57 AM

Quote :

"I'm not sure who you were replying to"

not you, but guth

2/13/2007 9:44:55 AM

In all seriousness we do control a large amount of the wealth in the world. Way off of balance than any other 'ethnic' group. We are only 11 million strong yet manage to hold the top positions in banking, business, entertainment, and government all across the globe. Does this mean we run the world? of course not. Does this mean that we're tools of satan, no. Zionism is a large part of our lives, much in tune with the native americans and how they feel. our cause is to increase the stability of our homeland, and that is all.

2/13/2007 2:36:32 PM

FUCK YOU AND YOUR MOM

2/14/2007 2:02:50 AM

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=JPKY4R41A1KIBQFIQMGCFF4AVCBQUIV0?xml=/news/2007/02/13/wiran13.xml

Quote :

"Iraqi insurgents using Austrian rifles from Iran By Thomas Harding, Defence Correspondent February 13, 2007 Austrian sniper rifles that were exported to Iran have been discovered in the hands of Iraqi terrorists, The Daily Telegraph has learned. More than 100 of the.50 calibre weapons, capable of penetrating body armour, have been discovered by American troops during raids. The guns were part of a shipment of 800 rifles that the Austrian company, Steyr-Mannlicher, exported legally to Iran last year."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/

Quote :

"These rifles, apparently a copy of the Barrett, are sold by Austria all over the world. The rifles the US is claiming are from Iran could have originated anywhere. For all we know, these rifles have been captured from coalition forces right there in Iraq. We were lied into Iraq. There is zero reason not to assume we are being lied to yet again."

[Edited on February 14, 2007 at 7:46 AM. Reason : ```]

2/14/2007 7:44:58 AM

2/14/2007 7:49:15 AM