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salisburyboy
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"You are a disappointment to the human race.

Kill yourself immediately, if not sooner"


No...I'm something more like your worst enemy

which is why you want me dead

3/8/2007 9:03:22 AM

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You aren't even a blip on my radar. You don't exist as far as I'm concerned.

3/8/2007 9:05:39 AM

salisburyboy
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"You aren't even a blip on my radar. You don't exist as far as I'm concerned."


uh huh

that's why you take all this time out of your life to troll my threads, harass me, and tell me you wish I was dead

3/8/2007 9:54:09 AM

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Don't be mistaken. Using you as a tool for my work day entertainment doesn't mean you exist. It just means you haven't defended a point you have made yet, and probably never will.

3/8/2007 9:59:08 AM

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"It just means you haven't defended a point you have made yet, and probably never will.
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Riiiiiight. And I've never even provided evidence to support ANY of my arguments. NEVER. Ever.

You do realize that you and the other trolls--with your completely ludicrous and hysterical statements/accusations/etc--are actually doing much to support my position(s)?

3/8/2007 11:23:56 AM

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"Riiiiiight. And I've never even provided evidence to support ANY of my arguments. NEVER. Ever. "


Actually, no you haven't.

#1 - You don't make arguments. You copy shit from some other site into here.

#2 - When questioned, you copy other shit from those sites here.

You haven't had any original thoughts yourself. Period.

3/8/2007 11:29:02 AM

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"You haven't had any original thoughts yourself. Period."


NONE. ZERO. Absolutey no thoughts of my own




keep trolling

3/8/2007 12:13:38 PM

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You keep posting worthless shit, and I'll keep trolling.

3/8/2007 2:02:11 PM

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If what I'm posting is really "shit", why are you blatantly trolling the thread, harassing me, spamming it with your garbage, and telling me you wish I was dead? If it was such nonsense, then the thread would just die and no one would post in it.

Then why are you and the other trolls doing this? Is it that you are trying to distract me and distract from the substance of what I'm posting? Of course. That's the tactic you and the rest of the troll brigade has been employing in my threads for over a year now.

Certain people don't want me posting here. Why? Because they want to silence my viewpoint, clearly.




[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 3:43 PM. Reason : 4]

3/8/2007 3:39:47 PM

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"How about you find an impartial modern history that explains how the jews wrecked medieval economies instead of scrambling back to the medieval anti-semitic rant that inspired you to create this thread?"

3/8/2007 3:47:24 PM

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"If what I'm posting is really "shit", why are you blatantly trolling the thread,"


Is this...like...a question that answers itself?

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"If it was such nonsense, then the thread would just die and no one would post in it.
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Much like all your other assertions, this isn't true. The thread is indeed still nonsense. I just choose to use it to entertain myself with.

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"Is it that you are trying to distract me and distract from the substance of what I'm posting?"

There is no substance. We can cruise over to prisonplanet to get our fill if we want to. You don't add anything unique.

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"Certain people don't want me posting here. Why? Because they want to silence my viewpoint, clearly."

No you stupid moronic fucking imbecile. We are still waiting, years later, for you to defend any point prisonplanet makes (because like I just mentioned, that is all you are doing here is copying and pasting) with your own ideas and insights.

Stop being a dumbass conspiracy theorist. No one wants you silenced about anything you fuck up. You aren't that important, and you never will be.

3/8/2007 3:54:26 PM

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"Mr. Joshua wrote:

"You're reaching extremely far there. You cited a period anti-semitic rant from a religious person..

How about you find an impartial modern history..."


Martin Luther is as a respectable a historian as there is for that era (if not among the most respectable...especially in the view of modern-day Protestants).

Now if people like you Mr. Joshua want to dismiss Luther's testimony and historical accounts as effectively "meaningless" all because he's religious (as was ~99% of the population back then) and "biased" (look noodle head...EVERYONE has biases)....and hysterically smear his writings as "anti-semitic rants from a religious person", then so be it. Good luck with having anyone buy that bullshit.

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"There is no substance. We can cruise over to prisonplanet to get our fill if we want to. You don't add anything unique....all you are doing here is copying and pasting)"


That's bullshit. A lot of the things I post on, including the subject of this thread, are not even remotely covered by Prisonplanet (eg, religious threads, threads on Zionism/Judaism, etc).

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"Stop being a dumbass conspiracy theorist. No one wants you silenced about anything you fuck up. You aren't that important, and you never will be"


Yes, people DO want me silenced. It is blatantly obvious. And some of them have admitted it.



[Edited on March 8, 2007 at 4:08 PM. Reason : 4]

3/8/2007 3:58:35 PM

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"Now if people like you Mr. Joshua want to dismiss Luther's testimony and historical accounts as effectively "meaningless" all because he's religious (as was ~99% of the population back then) and "biased" (look noodle head...EVERYONE has biases)....and hysterically smear his writings as "anti-semitic rants from a religious person", then so be it. Good luck with having anyone buy that bullshit."


I buy it. Everyone else bought it except you.

Just how delusional are you?

3/8/2007 4:56:07 PM

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"Martin Luther is as a respectable a historian as there is for that era (if not among the most respectable...especially in the view of modern-day Protestants)."


1)

Defending your opinion with just one source is not a very effective method. As you yourself say, everyone has bias, so finding supporting evidence from multiple sources would really help to defend your stance. So if you could find another historian or economist, preferably a modern one, that agrees with your claim of Jews wrecking the economies, then you might have something.

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"Now if people like you Mr. Joshua want to dismiss Luther's testimony and historical accounts as effectively "meaningless" all because he's religious (as was ~99% of the population back then) and "biased" (look noodle head...EVERYONE has biases).... and hysterically smear his writings as "anti-semitic rants from a religious person", then so be it. Good luck with having anyone buy that bullshit."


So, was Dr Halsall smearing Luther's comments when he makes the following statement in the top part of the pages you've been linking in this thread?

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"Second, although Luther's comments seem to be proto-Nazi, they are better seen as part of tradition of Medieval Christian anti-semitism"


Taking that into account, when I consider that Luther's comments appear to be part of a larger and common "Christian anti-semitism" and also possibly stemming from the fact that he could not get the Jews to convert to Christianity, it makes his bias a little more difficult to ignore.

Which basically brings me back to my first point and mine and Mr. Joshua's original request, that you support your claim with another, preferably modern, historian or economist.

3/8/2007 5:18:07 PM

Mr. Joshua
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"Martin Luther is as a respectable a historian as there is for that era"


Unless I missed some of his historical writings, you're confusing history with theology.

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"Now if people like you Mr. Joshua want to dismiss Luther's testimony and historical accounts as effectively "meaningless" all because he's religious (as was ~99% of the population back then) and "biased" (look noodle head...EVERYONE has biases)....and hysterically smear his writings as "anti-semitic rants from a religious person""


I didn't smear anyone. I put his views in a historical context. You're simply trying to misrepresent my input because it hurts your case.

So you admit that he is biased. Find a modern history that explains jews wrecking the economies of medieval Europe in a context other than in an anti-semitic diatribe.

You could also try to find a modern and unbiased source that shows that his views on jews hold more water than his views on the solar system.

3/8/2007 6:55:19 PM

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I can't think of another society other than Christians that hates the Jews. How do you explain that the majority of the world has no ill will towards the Jews?

3/8/2007 9:27:42 PM

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"they are better seen as part of tradition of Medieval Christian anti-semitism"


Again, so-called "anti-semitism" is not evil or wrong. It's only "evil and wrong" by today's PC standards espoused by the Jewish-controlled media and establishment.

The people back in the middle ages...and all they way up until now have had good reason to oppose Jews living in their countries [eg, usury banking, effectively enslaving non-Jews (monetarily), wrecking economies, degrading morals of society, etc].

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"I can't think of another society other than Christians that hates the Jews."


Huh?? What about muslims and Arabs? Most muslims are well known to be strongly opposed to Jews, Zionism, and the state of Israel.

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"How do you explain that the majority of the world has no ill will towards the Jews?"


Did you know that Israel, according to recent polls, is the most "hated" and negatively viewed country in the entire world?

Israel tops poll of countries seen as having "mainly negative influence in the world"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6421597.stm

3/9/2007 7:34:39 AM

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How in the hell do you extract "hated" and negatively viewed out of "negative influence"?

That's why people don't take you seriously you cowardly liar.

3/9/2007 8:02:44 AM

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"How in the hell do you extract "hated" and negatively viewed out of "negative influence"?"


The better qeustion is how do you NOT? I know you're in total denial mode, but this is taking it to even another level. Are you now denying the true meaning of words?

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"That's why people don't take you seriously you cowardly liar."


keep on trollin'

3/9/2007 9:41:52 AM

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Speaking of denial

Post a picture of yourself.

It's pretty hard to take an anonymous kook seriously.

[Edited on March 9, 2007 at 9:56 AM. Reason : a]

3/9/2007 9:56:37 AM

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"Which basically brings me back to my first point and mine and Mr. Joshua's original request, that you support your claim with another, preferably modern, historian or economist."

3/9/2007 10:32:28 AM

federal
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Big brothers have a negative influence on you, but that doesn't mean you hate them.

Besides, you're pretty adamant about how the Israelites today are not the real Jews, so your point is invalid. And you're supporting your claims with, what you claim to be, "flawed" sources.

To think that an entire race is inherently flawed is the most asanine thing you can do, PC or not.

3/9/2007 12:10:24 PM

Mr. Joshua
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"The people back in the middle ages...and all they way up until now have had good reason to oppose Jews living in their countries [eg, usury banking, effectively enslaving non-Jews (monetarily), wrecking economies, degrading morals of society, etc]."


You have yet to show that usury banking wrecked the economies of medieval Europe, everyone here considers you a liar because of that. If you want to attempt to salvage whatever credibility that you have you should probably work on an explanation.

How have jews degraded the moral of society?

3/9/2007 3:14:50 PM

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