Fuck!

[Edited on March 27, 2007 at 11:26 PM. Reason : for page three]

3/27/2007 11:25:48 PM

it's sidney lowe's kid...not sidney lowe, not a player, not an ncsu student.

this will have zero effect on recruiting.

this will have zero effect on sidney's coaching job.

this will have zero effect on nc state.

this will have a large effect on sidney lowe II for his decisions.

anyone who tells you differently is wrong.

3/27/2007 11:25:50 PM

^ the nail has been hit on the head, gg.

3/27/2007 11:26:21 PM

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"i think it would hurt a bit more if his son still lived at home and sidney would have him home most of the time, but this happened outside of sidneys watch"

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"i think it would hurt a bit more if his son still lived at home and sidney would have him home most of the time, but this happened outside of sidneys watch"

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"i think it would hurt a bit more if his son still lived at home and sidney would have him home most of the time, but this happened outside of sidneys watch"

Hence, this should not matter to parents sending their kid to nc state. Plus, we have more people on staff than Sidney to watch out for the players.

3/27/2007 11:28:00 PM

i played aau ball with his son and this doesn't surprise me

3/27/2007 11:28:22 PM

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"There are many very good people in this world who raise their kids in very appropriate, loving, and strict family situations, but their kids make their own decisions and that is the end of the story. I am not a parent, but I have seen enough to know that you cannot blame the parent for a grown childs' actions EVER. "

DrCarolina said it pretty well on the IC board.

3/27/2007 11:31:33 PM

IC message board seems pretty clear of being assholes right now... good for them

3/27/2007 11:39:35 PM

^ it's a scout.com. mods = no epeen.

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"t's sidney lowe's kid...not sidney lowe, not a player, not an ncsu student. this will have zero effect on recruiting. this will have zero effect on sidney's coaching job. this will have zero effect on nc state. this will have a large effect on sidney lowe II for his decisions."

fixed it. how would it not?

3/27/2007 11:53:53 PM

All of you who are shocked by the six counts of kidnapping don't know what kidnapping is. It's not always like tying somebody up and throwing them in your trunk. Forcing someone to move from one room to another room in their home can be considered kidnapping.

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"i played aau ball with his son and this doesn't surprise me"

Yeah, let's not get into this nonsense either. I bet he's associated with a lot of folks; no need for everyone to chime in with their opinion when they probably don't know shit.

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 12:03 AM. Reason : edit]

3/27/2007 11:58:23 PM

^ but six counts? come on, that's absurd. and twenty two charges overall. completely uncalled for!

3/28/2007 12:02:18 AM

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"SIX COUNTS OF KIDNAPPING though. that's ridiculous."

All that means is that he most likely "detained someone against their will". Like they had guns and wouldn't let the people leave the apartment = kidnapping. You can be charged with "unlawful detainment" which is akin, or the same, to kindnapping simply for blocking the door and not allowing someone to leave.

3/28/2007 12:03:12 AM

^Exactly.

3/28/2007 12:06:38 AM

dammit! why the fuck do rich kids do shit like this?

3/28/2007 12:09:02 AM

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"dammit! why the fuck does do rich kids anybody do shit like this?"

there, i fixed it for you

3/28/2007 12:11:38 AM

I hope this doesn't make the front page of The N/O.

3/28/2007 12:13:40 AM

ha, its already one of the top headlines on espn.com

3/28/2007 12:14:37 AM

FUCK

3/28/2007 12:17:16 AM

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"All that means is that he most likely "detained someone against their will". Like they had guns and wouldn't let the people leave the apartment = kidnapping."

so all he did was keep six people in a room at gunpoint? that's not at all ridiculous.

3/28/2007 12:17:29 AM

i don't think the charge itself is crazy

but like the other people in the thread

6 counts

6

3/28/2007 12:21:43 AM

^^^^And every other website. But last I checked, the N/O wasn't keeping up with it.

^^No, it's pretty bad, but it's not like tying up six people and driving them to another location.

I will mention now that everybody knows the Greensboro police are corrupt.

Don't know shit about the UNCG police. But the Greensboro police are notorious. Those charges could be out and out bullshit so they can get press and then not follow through. And the UNCG charges could amount to smoking weed, having crazy ass friends, and being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 12:32 AM. Reason : sss]

3/28/2007 12:22:14 AM

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" "dammit! why the fuck does do rich kids anybody do shit like this?" there, i fixed it for you"

no, there are good reasons why poor kids turn to crime: need for money, lack of education, poor self-esteem, misguidance, lowered expectations, etc. rich kids have abundant resources available to them. the only reasons for them to act a fool are a craving for attention, or they glorify criminal behavior.

why does the son of a millionaire need to be robbing?

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 12:33 AM. Reason : ]

3/28/2007 12:31:27 AM

Lowe isn't even charged with the original shooting offense. That Brian Patrick Martin kid is the one...where the fuck is his picture?

3/28/2007 12:35:39 AM

Wow, what a fucking idiot.

3/28/2007 1:01:57 AM

from my times at working at the courthouse they always charge you will all possible counts (even if one is a lesser offense of the greater charge). Likely most of these will be dropped in court, hopefully he was just with bad company who did all the shit. Still bad press, and he is likely to plead to at least some of these charges even if they are reduced.

3/28/2007 1:09:34 AM

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" Quote:Wonder what the kkkrowd at the wolfweb thinks of this. Why don't you go over there and give us a report."

3/28/2007 2:00:41 AM

Word is JB Bickerstaff was the getaway driver

3/28/2007 2:57:30 AM

Man this is REALLY embarrassing.

What a black eye.

This is going to be used by outsiders to discredit our program for at least the next decade.

And we had so much momentum too...


Let's just hope Jim Rome or someone doesn't crucify us nationally.


Ugh, if this were professional sports it would be swept under the rug but collegiately this is gonna leave a mark.


I wonder if we could get Herbie back...

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 4:19 AM. Reason : a]

3/28/2007 4:18:58 AM

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"it's sidney lowe's kid...not sidney lowe, not a player, not an ncsu student. this will have zero effect on recruiting. this will have zero effect on sidney's coaching job. this will have zero effect on nc state. this will have a large effect on sidney lowe II for his decisions.""

very true, BUT its just something else we have to hear about from tarholes and dookies

3/28/2007 7:15:12 AM

haha man...this thread would be so easy to be racist in...

3/28/2007 7:17:07 AM

dammit... why does the IC board have to be all classy?

3/28/2007 7:26:18 AM

i can already see the posters in the crowd now

3/28/2007 7:29:38 AM

A sign of a good parent is how they respond when their child screws up. You guys need to quit freaking out. They way Sidney responds is going to impact recruiting WAY more than his son's screw-up. Just give it time, and see how it plays out, I guarantee Sid will do something classy in response.

3/28/2007 7:33:34 AM

look - shit happens

my godparents are my parents best friends from college and their son is in prison for drugs and their daughter has three kids and is divorced at 25

they are good people and tried their best - sometimes you have to let kids fuck up and hope they learn. some will some won't - but no matter how much leash you put on them in HS, when they are 18, they are going to do what they want.

3/28/2007 7:34:45 AM

maybe he'll wear the red jacket in court for good luck.

3/28/2007 7:35:16 AM

I fucked up all the time. Granted I never did shit like this, never would and my parents have yet to find out about it.

Sidney can't hold his grown ass kid's hand every five minutes.

3/28/2007 7:38:01 AM

"We're Caroilna. We're better than that."

Ha ha, from IC. At least we can spell 'State.'

3/28/2007 7:48:34 AM

how the hell would this effect recruiting or anything with our program?

3/28/2007 8:01:24 AM

^parents will say if he cant keep his own son out of prison what will happen to my kid

3/28/2007 8:05:01 AM

but if they make that comparison, coach lowe : uncg coach :: recruit's parents : father lowe

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 8:08 AM. Reason : switch]

3/28/2007 8:08:09 AM

i didnt think lowe's son played basketball

hes not on uncg's roster.

3/28/2007 8:10:49 AM

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"^parents will say if he cant keep his own son out of prison what will happen to my kid"

well if lowes adult son getting into trouble is his fault, then those parents shouldnt worry about their kid unless they raised him wrong

i think most parents understand that its not a parents fault if an adult son in another city does something wrong

3/28/2007 8:20:58 AM

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"parents will say if he cant keep his own son out of prison what will happen to my kid"

you have to be a pretty pessimistic parent if you are worried about your child going to prison - there are thugs out there, sure, but most parents are more concerned about their child's ability to play, learn, and get to the NBA

3/28/2007 8:22:23 AM

You people saying it won't hurt anything are thinking as an NC State fan.

Try being some mother from Colorado or somewhere, and you're shipping your kid off into some stranger's hands. This will hurt, like it or not, on at least some level.

3/28/2007 8:22:32 AM

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"hes not on uncg's roster."

He goes to A&T.

3/28/2007 8:23:41 AM

well hes not on that roster either.

3/28/2007 8:28:35 AM

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"Try being some mother from Colorado or somewhere, and you're shipping your kid off into some stranger's hands. This will hurt, like it or not, on at least some level."

who wants to say that this wont hurt recruiting?

3/28/2007 8:35:42 AM

you guys are a bunch of knee jerk reactionary crazy people.

AT worst it might affect that shit for year, but after that - it'll be so far out of mind it doesnt even matter. So fucking what.

This sucks for one person and one person only. Sid. I don't think this will have any effect on our furture success as a program. Give it a rest

3/28/2007 8:42:51 AM

This will definitely hurt recruiting...competing coaches will use this against Sid to sway the recruit their way.

3/28/2007 8:44:16 AM

who is advocating sid beating his son's ass? The kid is facing some major charges and likely doing time, I don't think he needs any punishment from his parents at this point.

^ that would be a below the belt move that I imagine at least most coaches would want to stay away from

[Edited on March 28, 2007 at 8:56 AM. Reason : .]

3/28/2007 8:52:54 AM

haha

FIRE LOWE

3/28/2007 9:09:04 AM