naw that place is broke ass too

4/3/2007 3:08:14 AM

mitches will not be getting my business...i mean i dont like to smoke but i do anyways so i couldnt go there

4/3/2007 3:12:44 AM

Moore's BBQ in New Bern....ftw

4/3/2007 3:25:01 AM

Ralph's BBQ FTW

4/3/2007 5:07:21 AM

Mitch's has some great chili, and its close enough to take a bathroom break from class and get a beer.

4/3/2007 8:16:21 AM

i like going #2 in Mitch's bathroom.

4/3/2007 8:23:15 AM

No you don't.

4/3/2007 8:30:31 AM

yes i do.

4/3/2007 8:32:10 AM

Anyone that thinks Lexington barbecue is the same as Eastern style has no business posting in this thread. On the other hand, maybe Red Hot & Blue will be just fine for you.

4/3/2007 9:27:33 AM

^ truth

and

Quote :

"While I hate smoking and the stench the next moring after drinking all night at a bar, people who go to bars like to smoke."

I've gone more often since they've made that rule than i have in the previous 5 years combined.

I think it's an awesome rule.

4/3/2007 9:41:42 AM

What's the diff. btw lexington and eastern?

Other than where it comes from on the pig.

4/3/2007 10:17:34 AM

The most obvious difference is the sauce.

Eastern NC Style: Vinegar Based
Lexington Style: Tomato Based (even if it isn't as thick as you will find in Texas, Tennessee, or Kansas City)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_variations_of_barbecue#North_Carolina
Read this, it's generally accurate.

4/3/2007 11:40:29 AM

Thx. I guess I always thought since it was chopped and the slaw it came with was relatively still a bit vinegary, it would be eastern style.

I knew it had tomato in the sauce, just wasn't sure if that made it tomato based. Thanks

4/3/2007 11:43:07 AM

Tomato Based BBQ, why just pour ketchup on your ribs.

4/3/2007 11:44:37 AM

Anybody had Carter Bro's in High Point? Very tasty bbq... owned by the 2 fattest brothers in existence.
They also serve biscuits the size of your head for breakfast.

yum...

4/3/2007 11:52:40 AM

Went to RH&B on Falls of the Neuse last night and they had All-You-Can-Eat ribs for $19.99... damn good deal for any other fatties out there.

4/3/2007 11:54:18 AM

yaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

I HATE EVERYTHING!!!

4/3/2007 1:13:00 PM

^^^Yeah, the infamous "cathead biscuits"

Personally I haven't tried the Q there. Ex-gf used to live across the street though.

4/3/2007 4:05:48 PM

Quote :

"I've gone more often since they've made that rule than i have in the previous 5 years combined. I think it's an awesome rule."

agreed

it seems just as busy in there as ever too

4/3/2007 8:30:56 PM

Ah, nothing like bbq to cause vicious arguments among North Carolinians.

I'm not the biggest fan of RHB. I don't think it's terrible, but it's far behind some others (haven't ever had Smithfield's, but I like Ole Time personally.) But, it's better than having a vacant building looming over one end of Hillsborough. I've been concerned about the fate of the old Darryl's building, and anything that puts a tenant in it is a good plan. Maybe not the best tenant possible. But it's something.

I do agree with whoever said that it would have been ideal for a microbrewery. Since we've lost both Greenshields and Southend in the past couple of years, a new microbrewery would be great...

4/3/2007 8:54:22 PM

i dont know how the rest of you feel but i prefer my bbq to have some sort of smoke flavor generally hickory. this is why i do not care for places that only boil their meat (like coopers). it seems eastern places are less likely to have smoked flavor.

i also dont prefer the use of shoulders/boston butts as oppsed to whole pigs as it seems that the whole pigs bbq is greasier.

how ever is its my belief that to have good bbq you must have good sauce. good sauce can make cardboard taste good.

4/3/2007 8:59:48 PM

well you are all wrong....the best eastern style bbq in the area is carolina bbq in garner. the guy got his recipie from parkers in wilson, so of course it is the titties. ole time is terrible. tries, but no cigar. RH&B won't last. i agree that the place has been vacant for too long, but i want to meet the person that thought this was a good idea so i can punch him in the nuts.

4/3/2007 9:01:22 PM

is parkers the place the has the corn stick things that everyone is always talking about?

if so i had it at a wedding i went to in the wilson area and thought it was pretty horrible, especially the corn things. they were like 2 week old dry out cornbread, in stick form.

4/3/2007 9:03:56 PM

It ain't Eastern, but it's good.

I'll be a visitor...

4/3/2007 9:06:01 PM

yea...i used to be a fan of cornsticks before they (parkers) started having hushpuppies, now i think they are terrible too.

4/3/2007 9:07:37 PM

Blue Mist in Asheboro has a pretty good smoky flavor but their was some stuff more than just meat in my bbq.

4/3/2007 9:10:55 PM

Quote :

"Blue Mist in Asheboro has a pretty good smoky flavor but their was some stuff more than just meat in my bbq."

when i was in the czech republic i ordered something that resembled bbq at a cafeteria type place thinking it was just some kind of copped up pork or beef. well it probably was, but i think it was made from the organs and the muscle tissue. all in all not bad but the texture was very weird.

4/3/2007 9:16:20 PM

where is "between raleigh and cary" ?

4/3/2007 9:26:04 PM

^^ haha

thats the way you gotta go

4/3/2007 9:37:46 PM

FYI, there's no way in hell this place will last even 6 months.

The rent for that space is over $8000 a month. Which is absolutely insane for Raleigh, not to mention that particular building with no foot traffic and no direct parking.

Raisin' Ale lasted what, two months?

4/3/2007 11:24:50 PM

Raisin' Ale never opened.

4/3/2007 11:39:17 PM

^^ yeah I agree some cheap place to eat will never make it there

4/3/2007 11:43:22 PM

Have to have alcohol at a college campus. Ask Franklin Street.

I hate to compare it to UNC, but honestly, after looking at that, how can people try to ask for a fun college street that goes quiet after 10pm?

Red Hot and Blue is alright, but I don't know anyone who will agree that it's a good idea to put a failing BBQ joint in a failing part of town.

4/4/2007 12:40:40 AM

the food will taste better than an empty building with dust. and that is all that i care about.

4/4/2007 12:49:53 AM

its not a failing part of town. it's just a TERRIBLE location for a college oriented restaurant. That location is horrendous for any eatery and the rent is insanely high.

Better off there would be a furniture gallery, or a clothing boutique. Something with more street and driving appeal. But really I dont see how any business will survive there.

4/4/2007 12:52:17 AM

^^^ I agee alcohol is a key factor, stop hating it even places on hillsborough st are agaisnt new abc permits.

thats another point, they need to put a place in that college students/college parents, adults, and young professionals will hit up. A nicer scale place and a nice bar I think may work.

Also a nice sports bar could possibly work, there is really no place a lot of people can go to watch a ncsu game or other sports real close to campus (sammy's doesn't count and playmakers is far away/still not that nice.

[Edited on April 4, 2007 at 12:53 AM. Reason : .]

4/4/2007 12:53:41 AM

the last thing this town needs is another sports bar.

the kids who want to WALK from campus are almost all underage, and couldnt get into a sports bar to begin with. there are too many bar/restaurants on hillsborough already. and glenwood south is a stones throw away. there needs to be other business there.

4/4/2007 1:09:24 AM

i'm not aware of a decent sized legit sports bar on hillsborough st., esp. in walking distance from campus. that place is big enough to have many large TVs and lots of tables for anyone of any age to grab some wings and beer/soft drink and watch the games in HD. similar to playmakers, but accesible to everybody. or just go to hang out. that is the only place that will last there. a boutique won't last, there is no parking for the people with the kind of money to shop there.

4/4/2007 1:18:17 AM

A Carolina Ale House there would make a killing if there were more parking.

4/4/2007 1:21:26 AM

From what I heard but I could be wrong, is that Darryl's was doing fine at that location but there parent company and supplier went out of bussiness.

4/4/2007 1:22:01 AM

Their parent co. did go under, but some of the Darryl's were independently owned and stayed open. For example, there is still a Darryl's in Greensboro near the mall. Not sure of the exact circumstances of this one's closing but they did have some issues in the time before they closed (such as being shut down for a few weeks after a health inspection turned up serious violations at one point).

Despite that, I went there. Even trusted enough that they cleaned up whatever was wrong to go back (eventually) after they re-opened. I was sad to see it go.

[Edited on April 4, 2007 at 1:57 AM. Reason : d]

4/4/2007 1:57:06 AM

Smithfield's would be better

^^ That placed closed because they consistently failed their health inspections. The place was a total dump. Honestly I'm surprised they're putting a new restaurant in there without gutting the entire building. I can't imagine it's up to code the way it is now.



[Edited on April 4, 2007 at 2:07 AM. Reason : dsada]

4/4/2007 2:01:38 AM

A Smithfield's out there would be pretty amazing. And I think it would do alright, because people know it.

A sports bar is a good point. And sure most students who live on campus there are underage, but there are lots of people on the other side of the street that would love to just walk to a bar and watch the game. The problem is appealing to the right target audience. Any bar that is built there needs to cater to the nighttime crowd, who would enjoy the possibility of another Glenwood S. where lots of bars are accessible.

The strange part is the people behind Hillsborough had to have seen the way home values went up when Glenwood became popular. Seems like a good investment strategy to me.

4/4/2007 8:19:30 AM

microbrewery would be awesome.

4/4/2007 9:15:17 AM

microbrewery is the best idea yet.

4/4/2007 10:23:41 AM

When my boy Red (Red's beach music) tried to move into there, they wouldn't let him customize the place at all for a decent bar style, and the guy wanted a huge price for it.

4/4/2007 10:41:43 AM

just got back from Danny's BBQ in RTP

Good stuff for sliced. Nice spicy sauce too.

The potato salad was the best I have ever had by far, though.

4/4/2007 12:48:51 PM

sports bar won't work.

any "bar" won't work. There's PR's RIGHT next door, Jackpot a stone's throw away, and Mitch's less than a 1/4 mile up the road, not to mention Sadlacks. They all appeal to different demographics, and all will take away from a sports bar.

Micro-brewery is an interesting idea, but I dont think the space is big enough to really be able to put one in.

The people that live behind hillsborough are split between students and residents. The residents go to Cameron Village, not to hboro, and the students go to glenwood south or to one of the 10-15 existing places.

But I dont see how anything can survive there with the rent being what it is.

4/4/2007 1:13:24 PM

Yeah, to me the larger problem comes with the location being somewhat at the end of the busier parts of Hillsborough St. To me it ends around Sadlacks, if not before there.

You need a place there that isn't going to get people b/c of convenience, but somewhere thats so good/cool that people want to drive right to that place when they want to do something.

4/4/2007 1:29:15 PM

im thinking titty bar.

alcohol optional so all the 18+ dudes from state will walk over. that would make some serious cash.

4/4/2007 2:27:09 PM