sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
3 pages of hilarity 7/10/2007 7:38:05 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and ^ You idiots are too stupid to realize that glimmers of the Zeitgeist can be seen in many places--including film and music--if one has the eyes to see. Apparently, you don't even have the eyes to read plain text:
Quote : | "Okay, I'll cut to the chase--and the movie itself is irrelevant." |
hooksaw
And the Rush lyrics were addressing the following post by joe_shithead:
Quote : | "In a future United States, the only transport available to an individual is public transportation." |
This was the point:
Quote : | "And I do like Lee Majors--but this is an understandably recurring theme in a variety of media ['He says it used to be a farm / before the motor law']." |
hooksaw
I am not dragging TSB down. And neither of you is elevating it, so STFU.
[Edited on July 10, 2007 at 11:14 PM. Reason : .]7/10/2007 11:01:47 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
7/11/2007 12:33:44 AM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
What Mr. "Fair and Balanced" doesn't want to show are the stats or articles concerning carjackings or muggings, but then again someone might be mugged on public sidewalks, so maybe we should privatize those too. 7/11/2007 3:06:51 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
This thread is riddled with...
crimes against logic. 7/11/2007 8:24:07 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
its funny how hooksaw gets thoroughly PWNT by everyone here, so then he gets all jokey and claims he was trolling.
even though the entire thread -- his anti-social politics, faulty logic, and his tenacity to stick to the attack even though it's completely flawed -- is common to all of his threads.
like his political hero, he just cant ever admit defeat.
7/11/2007 7:41:08 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ You're an idiot. 7/11/2007 11:26:37 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
hahah, and he keeps bumping it to the top. 7/12/2007 7:31:40 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
You've been thoroughly and systematically owned, when the best reply you have is "you're an idiot" (rolleyes optional). 7/12/2007 9:29:12 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and ^ You motherfuckers have never owned me. I made my point, but you just don't like it. So, I now invite you to piss off. 7/13/2007 12:26:30 AM |
Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
I am just pissed because there is no reasonable way for me to utilize publix transportation in my neighborhood. It would literally take me an hour and a half to travel about 12 miles.
Jeebus that is terrible. 7/13/2007 12:38:52 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
UNCC Resources Used to Push Agenda of Pro-Transit Forces By JEFF A. TAYLOR Contributing Editor
Quote : | "CHARLOTTE - State employees and resources were used to prepare a report written to the specifications of opponents of the repeal of the half-cent transit tax levied in Mecklenburg County, emails to and from UNCC Chancellor Phil Dubois show.
In a June 13 memo, which accompanied release of the emails, UNCC Assistant General Counsel Jesh Humphrey says, 'the study originated with a series of questions from Bob Morgan of the Charlotte Chamber of Commerce posed to Chancellor Dubois.'
However, at no point in the 28-page study is the role of Chamber President Morgan revealed. After the report was released in early May, its principal author also failed to disclose the report’s ties to Morgan and the chamber on at least two occasions.
The chamber is a major light-rail booster, dating to the 1998 countywide vote that levied the half-cent tax. Two weeks ago the chamber helped to birth a campaign to oppose the tax-repeal effort and is expected to help fund that effort lavishly.
The push to repeal the half-cent tax, which raises about $70 million a year for the Charlotte Area Transit System, burst into the consciousness of the chamber and the Charlotte power structure March 1. That day The Charlotte Observer reported that the petition drive to get a repeal on the ballot was already past its halfway point.
City officials immediately rushed to discredit the repeal effort, alleging without evidence that signers of the petition were being misled or did not understand what they were signing. Officials also warned that property taxes would have to be increased to compensate for the loss of revenue and that bus service would have to be slashed.
The Charlotte Business Journal reported that Mayor Pat McCrory was working on a 'counteroffensive' to the repeal effort and was asking city staff to analyze what the repeal would mean.
By March 3 the chamber was circulating an e-alert to members citing the petition’s threat to CATS’ transit plans. A week later Morgan was quoted as saying, 'We were strongly supportive in 1998 of transit. I don’t think you would see us pull back.'
On March 14, a list of 23 questions was emailed from Morgan to Dubois. These would form the basis for the UNCC report. The questions ranged from the obvious ('Will current levels of bus service be affected and how?') to the bizarre ('If I signed a petition to force a referendum to eliminate the half cent sales tax for transit, but do not support that effort and would like to have my name removed from the petition, what can I do?').
On March 16 Dubois, who has repeatedly advocated construction of the $750 million Northeast light-rail line from Uptown to the UNCC campus, replied to Morgan that he would have to consult with counsel 'about what we can do as a public institution,' indicating a awareness of the issue of using public funds to take sides in a political debate.
After receiving guidance, Dubois told Morgan on March 21 that, 'I think we’re clear to go ahead to do this.'
Dubois then evidently turned to Dennis Rash, a longtime member of Uptown power elite and retired Bank of America executive who holds the title of executive in residence at UNCC’s Center for Transportation Policy Studies. Rash was a trustee for the North Carolina Smart Growth Alliance and has praised the county’s half-cent levy and light-rail plan in speeches. He is married to Betty Chafin Rash, a former Charlotte City councilwoman. She was named to the chamber-backed campaign effort to defeat the repeal measure June 8." |
http://www.johnlocke.org/acrobat/cjPrintEdition/cj-july2007-web.pdf
[Edited on July 13, 2007 at 1:29 AM. Reason : .]7/13/2007 1:27:21 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
are you still at it?
didn't i already pwnt the fuck out of you?
it's over.
now go away, or i shall taunt you a second time. 7/13/2007 1:59:50 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ You haven't "pwnt" shit.
(1) Riddled: means "to fill or affect with (something undesirable, weakening, etc.): a government riddled with graft." And you cannot disprove that public transportation has been affected by and/or weakened by crime.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/riddled
(2) This was not trolling. It was simply a thread to draw out the worst in you moonbats that believe public transportation is a panacea--and it worked. Many of you were rabidly foaming, as expected.
At no point did I say that I didn't want public transportation or that public transportation is not part of a healthy current and future US infrastructure--in fact, I said quite the opposite. But your fevered little minds didn't allow you to read the facts as they were presented, did they? That is the point and it's horribly typical of you.
Quote : | "Of course, the howlers howl. That is their assigned posture in this drama." |
[Edited on July 14, 2007 at 1:55 AM. Reason : .]7/14/2007 1:40:50 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Riddled: means "to fill or affect with (something undesirable, weakening, etc.): a government riddled with graft." And you cannot disprove that public transportation has been affected by and/or weakened by crime. " |
i knew it.
you're congenitally retarded.
see why i have trouble believing you're a CHASS TA?
[Edited on July 14, 2007 at 2:31 AM. Reason : ]7/14/2007 2:29:52 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ Nobody cares what you think about me or anything else. 7/14/2007 2:37:17 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not talking to you anymore, you empty-headed animal food trough-wiper
I fart in your general direction ... Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. 7/14/2007 4:26:48 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ Stupid. 7/14/2007 3:13:11 PM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
You've been thoroughly and systematically owned, when the best reply you have is "stupdi" (rolleyes optional). 7/14/2007 3:40:18 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'm not familiar with "stupdi"--is it Farsi? Or is it the language the little people in your head speak to you? 7/15/2007 11:35:29 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
dude
you are 40 years old
lol 7/16/2007 8:16:17 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
this thread is such a complete and total failure, it embarrasses hooksaw to keep seeing it.
hence he has nothing left to do but point out people's typos. 7/16/2007 11:02:16 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ Look, I think that everyone--except left-wing nutballs--would agree that if you're going to call someone stupid, you should at least spell the word correctly. 7/16/2007 8:44:13 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
he transposed two letters while typing.
don't be such a maroon. 7/16/2007 8:56:43 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yes--you've pinpointed the problem, Detective Horse.
Quote : | "Look, I think that everyone--except left-wing nutballs--would agree that if you're going to call someone stupid, you should at least spell the word correctly." |
7/16/2007 9:00:49 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
hooksaw, are you menopausal?
Serious question. 7/16/2007 9:28:55 PM |
HockeyRoman All American 11811 Posts user info edit post |
Gauging by how he got his panties in a bunch in his failed 'Bash Al Gore' thread I would reckon to guess in the affirmative. 7/16/2007 11:38:13 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Serious answer: No.
^ FYI: I wear boxer briefs. You give an unusual amount of attention to my underwear--try to focus on the topic at issue and not your fevered fantasies, okay?
7/17/2007 11:29:57 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
no one cares about your skidmarked old man drawers
7/18/2007 2:56:41 AM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
7/18/2007 7:26:54 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
even though this thread has completely devolved, here's something that's actually relevant:
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1608722/
(raleigh looking into building a central station for all the public transportation -- bus, train, etc) in boylan heights. 7/19/2007 1:06:33 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Hot Spots of Bus Stop Crime
Quote : | "Transit crime (crime on buses or trains, or at bus stops or rail stations) is quite persistent, albeit underreported in large urban centers. Surveying 1,088 households in Los Angeles, Levine and Wachs (1986a) found that the actual incidence of transit crime was 20 to 30 times greater than that listed in official reports. Similarly, Gray and Hoel (1992) have argued that transit crime may be far greater than is shown in published statistics." |
http://www.uctc.net/papers/384.pdf
Stonewall on subway stats
Quote : | "Police Commissioner Howard Safir's bombshell announcement that subway crime has been underreported for decades came the day before he'd promised to release the same information to the Daily News.
'It was the latest day they'd promised,' said News counsel Eve Burton, referring to what she said was an agreement that police would release transit-crime statistics the paper sought under the freedom of information law. 'They'd missed four or five other dates, beginning in early October.'" |
http://nypdconfidential.com/columns/1998/980109.html
At Metro, Some Crimes Don't Count Statistics Exclude Incidents Handled by Local Police Departments
Quote : | "Metro transit officials undercount serious crime at the region's 86 rail stations, leaving dozens of assaults, robberies and other major incidents off the official tally they report to the system's board of directors and the public.
That practice stems from a long-standing policy not to count crimes handled by law enforcement officers other than Metro's Transit Police, even if the crimes occur in a station or on a subway platform." |
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/19/AR2005111901310.html
[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 1:58 AM. Reason : .]7/23/2007 1:41:43 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
yet more evidence crimes happen in public places.
hooksaw, you are genius.... pure genius.
let the march to privitization commence
:woot:
(seriously, this is the stuff that keeps you up at night? i mean, really? )
[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 3:00 AM. Reason : ] 7/23/2007 2:58:12 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ Your bus is here, joe_shithead.
7/23/2007 4:12:13 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
You can't just keep posting random articles about crimes that have happened on public transportation and expect that to prove anything.
The bottom line is that it is statistically safer to use public transportation than it is to drive. You are more likely to die or be seriously injured in a car accident than you are using public transporation. You might be more likely to be felt up or robbed using the subway, but if that's the alternative to dying or being put in a wheelchair, guess which one I'm going with?
Your stories don't matter. Let's just say for numbers sake and since I don't feel like looking it up, there have been 100 instances of problems with public transportation, and 1000 with driving in cars. You can waste your time posting all 100 public transportation stories when no one on the other side of the argument is going to waste their time finding all 1000 driving stores...but guess what, that won't change the statistics or make you right.
Until you can find a statistic that proves that far worse things happen in public transportation than happen in cars, you lose. 7/23/2007 4:31:04 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Public transportation is riddled with crime. 7/23/2007 4:37:03 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Pulbic transportation is riddled with crime, but it is a far safer way to commute than driving.
Jury seems to still be out on what the definition of riddled is, but would you at least agree to the above statement? 7/23/2007 4:41:53 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
wow. i dont know how you can get any less profound or more misleading.
how do you continue to do it?
[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 4:47 PM. Reason : ] 7/23/2007 4:44:14 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^^ and ^ Irrelevant.
riddled:
Quote : | "to fill or affect with (something undesirable, weakening, etc.): a government riddled with graft." |
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/riddled
[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 4:46 PM. Reason : .]7/23/2007 4:46:02 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
NEWS FLASH!!!
CRIME OCCURS IN PUBLIC!!!
PROPERTY-RIGHTS ADVOCATES RENEW CALLS TO PRIVATIZE EVERYTHING
7/23/2007 4:49:02 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
Would you agree with the statement? I don't care whether you think it's relevant or not, I am asking you a question, so answer it. 7/23/2007 4:50:28 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
^ dude, dont bother. you cant get a rational answer out of this guy in this thread. he's been pwnt so many ways to sunday here, its a public embarrassment.
Look....
I use public transportation in Seattle, a rather large city, every day.
i take it to work and back almost every day.
i often take my 2 year old to the downtown museums/parks/play areas/beach using public transportation.
ive never seen a single crime on a bus or at the stops -- even the downtown stops -- in 4 years.
public transportation is NOT "riddled" with crime.
but you, hooksaw, are a clown and a buffoon. you're a caricature, on a similar level as salisburyboy
[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 4:55 PM. Reason : ] 7/23/2007 4:53:18 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ NEWSFLASH: Ignorance being displayed in public. You're salisburyboy, blah, blah, blah. I live in Seattle--I know everything, blah, blah, blather.
^^ Not the point.
[Edited on July 23, 2007 at 4:57 PM. Reason : .] 7/23/2007 4:54:19 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i dont profess to know everything. and i have admitted when i was wrong.
you, OTOH, have some sort of bizarre psychological handicap that forces you to view everything in the world as some socialist conspiracy to force everyone into some imaginary "big brother" statist institution and confiscate all the property from good Patriots like yourself.
i mean, what the fuck do you know about public transportation? youre some ex-jailer from Butner, NC. your understanding of public transportation comes from minimal experience with buses in Greensboro and Wolfline.
i mean seriously, dude. get a grip. 7/23/2007 5:05:41 PM |
ElGimpy All American 3111 Posts user info edit post |
I will take the fact that you are ignoring the question to mean that you agree with the statement.
So now that we have established that public transportation is safer than driving, what is the point of putting this thread in the soap box?
Public transportation has crime, ok. Maybe it's even "riddled" with it, although people will disagree, but in the end that comes down to the meaning of the word. But let's just say for a second that it is indeed riddled with crime, but still safer than driving. WHAT IS THE POINT OF POSTING THAT IN THE SOAP BOX? 7/23/2007 5:06:30 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hat is the point of putting this thread in the soap box?" |
yeah, thats pretty much what everyone else has been wondering.
i nominate this for Stupidest TSB Thread 2007.7/23/2007 5:34:44 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ I'll see that and raise you. . .Stupidest Thread in History by joe_shithead.
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PS: I didn't even have to bother owning him in that thread--SELF-PWNT.
[Edited on July 25, 2007 at 12:58 AM. Reason : .] 7/25/2007 12:51:00 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
oh noes. what ever shall i do now.
you've caught me. yes, your serious but failed attempt at making a sinister connection between public transportation and rampant crime sprees in The Soap Box ...
... has been completely overshadowed by my silly parody of the multiple "suspend [user]douchebag[/user]" threads in Feedback Forum.
oh dear. i have to admit, you certainly are the sharpest tack in the box, yes sir. 7/25/2007 12:21:54 PM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
^ FAIL. 7/26/2007 12:08:58 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
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