Sputter All American 4550 Posts user info edit post |
Can we buy an entire team?
i got five on it. 9/22/2007 3:07:05 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
More like can we buy an offensive line?
ITS NOT THE DAMN QB....ITS THE FUCKING OFFENSIVE LINE!!!! 9/22/2007 4:53:42 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
i think it's safe to say they are both terrible 9/22/2007 5:07:05 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I really don't. Philip Rivers couldn't win with this O-Line.
QBs here since Rivers have been in a no-win situation. I know under TOB we will build an o-line, but right now you can't blame the QBs for all of it. 9/22/2007 5:11:40 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So is Burke just totally incompetent? Is that why he's not part of the discussion at all?" |
if his hand full of passes were any indication . . . then yeah 9/22/2007 9:17:11 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Alright I have an idea since all 3 are not getting the job done to say the least.
Let's move Dajuan Morgan back to QB and run the option. He was scout team QB as a freshman. We have Javon Walker ready back there to take over a spot. Or hell we could let him play both. 9/30/2007 3:22:52 AM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be ok with not seeing Beck or Evans in the backfield ever again. 9/30/2007 7:32:27 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Can we please just put Russell Wilson in there to see what the guy can do? From a passing standpoint, he can't be any worse than what we've got in there right now, plus he'll give our offense second chances with his running ability.
I'm not saying start him, but let him take a few series the next few games and see what he can do. Everybody bitching about him burning his red shirt is retarded. One one hand, he could bring a spark to a team that is flat out dead. On the other, he's probably gone after three years via MLB draft. 9/30/2007 9:51:37 AM |
Walt Sobchak All American 1189 Posts user info edit post |
PASSING GP Effic Cmp-Att-Int Pct Yds TD Lng Avg/G --------------------------------------------------------------- Beck, H. 5 94.03 77-144-9 53.5 831 2 53 166.2 Evans, D. 5 125.85 33-50-2 66.0 286 3 26 57.2
I know Evans isn't great, but I'm perplexed by the people who don't want to see the kid on the field. He's the best we got, why isn't he starting??
[Edited on September 30, 2007 at 10:13 AM. Reason : ] 9/30/2007 10:12:30 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Everybody bitching about him burning his red shirt is retarded." |
sir, i believe it is you who is retarded.9/30/2007 10:25:03 AM |
guitarguy All American 8118 Posts user info edit post |
9/30/2007 10:42:15 AM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
do you think there is a chance Beck will have 10 interceptions in one game this season? 9/30/2007 10:51:58 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
in the opponent whenever that would happen, i dont know if we would have 10 possessions in the game
did you see the time of possession lopsidedness 9/30/2007 10:53:03 AM |
typhicane All American 2400 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ you can actually see the tire marks from where a truck ran him over. 9/30/2007 1:17:39 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
What a piece of shit 11/10/2007 2:58:43 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
*****600 (2:58:53 PM): why we can't we find just a DECENT qb? *****600 (2:58:59 PM): one who doesnt blow games? *****600 (2:59:10 PM): i'm not asking for another fucking rivers, just somebody decent 11/10/2007 3:02:48 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
What a piece of shit 11/10/2007 3:03:19 PM |
Kodiak All American 7067 Posts user info edit post |
oh thanks, just rub it in our faces, Lincoln Financial 11/10/2007 3:05:52 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
That pass hit the reciever in the hands.
No use blaming evans for it, when it was TOB who had a run game that was unstoppable and shit in his jorts by deciding to pass it. 11/10/2007 3:06:01 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
is sint 100% evans, but it wasnt 0% evans either
he didnt step into the throw at all, he just kinda tossed it to a covered man 11/10/2007 3:07:04 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
i think next week, we need to start "direct snap to RB" at qb 11/10/2007 3:32:21 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah right. that pass was high and late. its supposed to be low and away. We win games despite evans. This guy is fucking cancer to any team.
Jamelle Eugene and the OL making him look good
I hope glennon or wilson or someone can step up and get rid of this wart next year
[Edited on November 10, 2007 at 3:37 PM. Reason : sdf] 11/10/2007 3:34:37 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Great win but theres absolutely no excuse for the self-destruction we've gotten from the QB position the past FOUR seasons. Jesus christ we almost turned a surefire victory into a HORRIBLE loss.
That loss would have completely blown our entire season. You can't put your team in a position to blow the entire season by making stupid decisions over and over.
Twice on 3rd and long we throw passes that would not have even been first downs that get INT'ed for a td 11/10/2007 3:41:25 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
I sure hope the Glennon kid coming in next year can develop fast and overtake Evans. There's no excuse to give your biggest rival 2 Ints for TDs. 11/10/2007 3:45:16 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
His biggest problem is he puts 0 zip on the ball. He just doesn't have the arm. He's fine when he's throwing down the field but anytime he throws to the outside, defenders have all day to catch up to the ball. Our coaches just need to sit him down and explain to him that he has no talent, and shouldn't put any faith in his arm strength to make plays. 11/10/2007 3:45:35 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
^that isnt his biggest problem, his biggest problem is his decision making, just like every other qb that has stepped on the field for us since rivers 11/10/2007 3:46:46 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
He's fine when he's throwing down the field early in the game when the defense doesn't adjust, hitting his first option, hitting the underneath route.
Otherwise, he panics, can't read his second option, or simply can't make the throw.
Eugene makes him look decent sometimes. 11/10/2007 3:49:19 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Well yes. It's decision making in that he thinks he can make throws that he is incapable of pulling off. 11/10/2007 3:50:02 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
sorry but that isnt it
his two ints were when he panicked and tried to force it, you are right that he couldn't make the throws, but really, nobody could have made those throws 11/10/2007 3:53:05 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
He looks better than he did early this year or late last year, but he still seems to not be able to handle the pressure. As soon as a defender gets a hand on him, it's all over. Even if he could easily get away and throw it away or to his check down, he just curls up in the standing fetal position and waits for it. 11/10/2007 3:56:14 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
Just dont force things that arent there.....if you take a sack both those times, you kick a field goal each time and put up 6 points. Because he forced it, they in turn scored 14 points. That's a 20 point turnaround. You can't do that and expect to win, which we somehow did anyway. But that's the kind of stuff that gets people fired, costs people their jobs. He has to know that when you're up 17-0 and in the red zone, you dont need to force anything. If it's not there, throw it away or take the sack. We need someone with better football IQ (and a better arm if possible). 11/10/2007 4:00:51 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i was trying to tell everybody after the virginia game that it's still the same evans, but no one wanted to listen.
eugene won that game by himself. 11/10/2007 5:51:40 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
the offensive line (+ eugene) and stopping unc's run won that game 11/10/2007 6:58:11 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, eugene and our defense saved his ass today. 11/10/2007 7:04:11 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
the worst thing about the pick sixes is the situation. losing is an excuse to try and force plays but up 17-0 and up by a small amount eat the football. 11/10/2007 7:55:33 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
one he was trying to force the ball, one was to an open (iirc) marcus stone, but was just a terrible pass. 11/10/2007 7:57:32 PM |
bumpintahoe All American 2077 Posts user info edit post |
At least we don't have Miami's QBs 11/10/2007 8:08:52 PM |
wolfpack0122 All American 3129 Posts user info edit post |
^ seriously. They showed a stat during the game tonight that Miami's QB has had 5 completions and 5 INT's in the last 6 quarters (iirc). If I went to school there, I think I would have to at least try out for the spot next season. I've never played, but come on... 11/11/2007 12:06:40 AM |
tej434 Veteran 375 Posts user info edit post |
Fact: Evans has thrown for 1118 yards, 7 TDs and 4 ints in the last 4 games with a 121.22 QB rating.
Fact: Evans is 6'2", 190LBs (listed on ESPN.com)
Fact: He is not and never was supposed to be a great QB
Fact: He *is* our QB for the this season and possibly next season
He has made a lot of improvement, people say he's just going fetal position as soon as he feels pressure but that's really not true. I can think of some great plays he's had with pressure in his face the last few games. He really is making good reads and for those that say he isn't you must just not be watching. He's looking off receivers and checking down when he should. He's reading blitzes and hitting hot routes well (the deep ball down the middle to Stone today was on a saftey blitz that Evans read). But regardless of what you think of him, he is certainly not cancer to a football team...that's just an ignorant statement since we've done nothing but get better and that's only considering what's going on, on the field.
Anyways, bottom line, no he's not great, he is never going to be, but we are winning and getting better. So as fans we either keep throwing people under the bus when we are still winning. Or we can just face the fact that at least for this year, possibly next year he IS our QB and support him. I'm sure everyone wishes we had someone better or Marcus Stone turned out to be Tim Tebow but it didn't and this is what we have. It sucks to see good guys who are getting the job done in reality being called a cancer.
[Edited on November 11, 2007 at 12:54 AM. Reason : .] 11/11/2007 12:53:19 AM |
spro All American 4329 Posts user info edit post |
quality post 11/11/2007 1:05:01 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
so i didn't read the thread, but was rally's solution to this to hang daniel evans in effigy? 11/11/2007 1:16:00 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I can think of some great plays he's had with pressure in his face the last few games." |
calling bullshit.11/11/2007 2:20:53 AM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
I think some people have a problem with the fact that more TD's were thrown by our QB to UNC than to us today, and the first pick six was one of the worst passes/decisions I've ever seen, throwing off your back foot only works consistently when you're Brett Favre. 11/11/2007 10:01:45 AM |
tej434 Veteran 375 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think some people have a problem with the fact that more TD's were thrown by our QB to UNC than to us today, and the first pick six was one of the worst passes/decisions I've ever seen, throwing off your back foot only works consistently when you're Brett Favre." |
Wait...he made a mistake? Go figure...
I mean really, no one expects him to play perfect ball and he's going to make mistakes because he isn't the best...but my problem is that when he makes this mistake...which in all honesty I really think the first pick has been the ugliest and probably not even "bad decision" just a bad throw...but when he does make mistakes he is still going to be our QB and no real fan should be calling for his head.11/11/2007 10:43:51 AM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
theres some mistakes you just can't make. in that situation up 17-0 deep in teritory yo don't throw any passes that have the slitghtest chance of being picked off and ran all the way back. 11/11/2007 11:27:06 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
the old 'real fans think their players are good no matter what' argument.
never fails. 11/11/2007 11:28:04 AM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
I place some of that blame on Bible, but Evans' decision making isn't exactly the best either though. Luckily he has gotten a little better on throwing it away when under pressure and not trying to force it or take a big sack. 11/11/2007 11:29:20 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
wait, that post wasn't serious was it? 11/11/2007 11:29:50 AM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
mine?
[Edited on November 11, 2007 at 11:35 AM. Reason : ] 11/11/2007 11:34:54 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
yours.
he's terrible at getting away from pressure and always takes the sack. 11/11/2007 11:35:41 AM |