i guess this election's contrived republican attack word is going to be "hillarycare" huh?

that should get old pretty fucking fast

10/21/2007 5:42:46 PM

Update...

Quote :

"Just one week after failing to override President Bush's veto, House Democrats will put a new version of their $35 billion expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program to a vote today, hoping that minor changes will win enough Republicans to beat Bush this round. The new version will underscore that illegal immigrants will not have access to the expanded program. It will ease adults off the program in one year, rather than the two in the vetoed version. And it establishes a firmer eligibility cap at 300 percent of the federal poverty line, just more than $60,000 for a family of four. .... Perhaps most important, it stipulates that applicants must have their Social Security numbers checked by the Social Security Administration. If Social Security cannot confirm citizenship, applicants will be required to provide states with documentation proving eligibility."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/24/AR2007102402408.html?hpid=moreheadlines

[Edited on October 25, 2007 at 1:53 PM. Reason : url]

10/25/2007 1:53:33 PM

i hope this bill gets shot down. if you can't afford healthcare for your children maybe you should look for a new job or re-evaluate if you should have children. The last time i checked the constitution did not give Americans the right to have a litter of 9 children who will be paid and supported by the tax payer.

10/25/2007 2:27:44 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/10/25/schip.vote/index.html

Quote :

"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- House Republicans are fuming over Democrats' decision to hold the next vote on the State Children's Health Insurance Program on Thursday -- when many Republicans will be in California as President Bush tours areas hit by wildfires."

Didn't GWB do just this sort of thing right before recess (this, last?) year in regards to the wiretapping stuff?

If I remember correctly, the resident troll used the "they should stay in session instead of going on vacation" excuse.

10/25/2007 2:58:04 PM

i mean, the senators really need to be there for their photo-ops

10/25/2007 3:02:52 PM

same bullshit; different party. ^^

pretty much the life story of bi-partisan politics in the US the last 40 years



[Edited on October 25, 2007 at 3:50 PM. Reason : a]

10/25/2007 3:49:03 PM

Well, I guess this latest attempt by the Democrats disproves the theory of some here and elsewhere that the SCHIP move was simply "shrewd" politics. It appears that they are serious about it--so which is it?

And how can the Dems "beat" Bush on SCHIP, as the article at the top of this page suggested? He actually supports reauthorization of the program. Perhaps it's the [sarcasm]objective[/sarcasm] media at work yet again.

Quote :

"Now it's time to put politics aside and seek common ground to reauthorize this important program. I have asked Health and Human Services Secretary Mike Leavitt, National Economic Council Director Al Hubbard, and OMB Director Jim Nussle to lead my administration's discussions with the Congress. I made clear that, if putting poor children first requires more than the 20 percent increase in funding I proposed, we'll work with Congress to find the money we need. I'm confident we can work out our differences and reauthorize SCHIP."

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iBAo1yCOOLr02NJfYtgrYmyZQKxAD8SB5LLO1

10/25/2007 7:18:00 PM

Quote :

"Didn't GWB do just this sort of thing right before recess (this, last?) year in regards to the wiretapping stuff? If I remember correctly, the resident troll used the "they should stay in session instead of going on vacation" excuse"

they should regardless of party. The thing the reps did with the wiretapping bill was they changed the bill and the dems voted on it without reading it.

10/25/2007 7:20:16 PM

As Expected, Bush Vetoes SCHIP Bill Again

Quote :

"(The Politico) For the second time, President Bush has vetoed a major expansion of the children's health insurance program, making it clear that the debate will linger as a political issue throughout 2008. Democrats had rewritten the $35 billion SCHIP legislation in an effort to create more firm caps on income eligibility while explicitly banning children of illegal immigrants from qualifying for the program, funding the expansion with an increase in tobacco taxes. But in an October vote, Democrats gained no ground with House Republicans, who held enough of their members together to sustain any veto. Bush issued his veto on Wednesday, saying 'our nation's goal should be to move children who have no health insurance to private coverage - not to move children who already have private health insurance to government coverage' [emphasis added]. Democrats dispute that expanding SCHIP to 10 million children would encourage families who have private insurance to dump their health plans in favor of the government program. With a little over a week left in the congressional session, it's not clear if Congress will even bother to schedule a veto override vote that is guaranteed to fail [emphasis added]."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/12/12/politics/politico/thecrypt/main3612870.shtml



It seems that the "Skipper" and "Gilligan" have run the Fail Boat aground again.

12/13/2007 1:31:55 AM

i mean it's obviously wrong to want this legislation because the president doesn't like it. right?

12/13/2007 1:05:24 PM

Why should I have to subsidize and pay taxes for LeShwana's 10 crack babies to hit up the ER everytime they get teh sniffles

12/13/2007 1:15:50 PM

i really can't tell if you're being facetious or just don't know what you're talking about (or both)

12/13/2007 1:17:32 PM

Quote :

"Bush issued his veto on Wednesday, saying "our nation's goal should be to move children who have no health insurance to private coverage _ not to move children who already have private health insurance to government coverage.""

Quote :

", funding the expansion with an increase in tobacco taxes"

lets scapegoat smokers again


I have not agreed much with Count W and Darth Cheney but I agree with Bush 100% on this. Talking about politics with my dad last night nearly turned into a screaming match b.c our stark opinion on universal health care of which this is the first step (testing the waters for future legislation).

[Edited on December 13, 2007 at 1:23 PM. Reason : a]

12/13/2007 1:23:17 PM

this is the first step towards universal health care?

are you some kind of fucking sage? how do you know this?

oh right, it's just extreme hyperbole masquerading as an "argument" against the bill because you've got nothing else

oh yeah, except this ridiculous hyperbole:

Quote :

"Why should I have to subsidize and pay taxes for LeShwana's 10 crack babies to hit up the ER everytime they get teh sniffles"

what a gem

[Edited on December 13, 2007 at 4:57 PM. Reason : ,]

12/13/2007 4:52:48 PM

Quote :

"lets scapegoat smokers again"

No different from scapegoating fat people, a tactic which is used in basically any TWW health care debate.

12/13/2007 5:02:07 PM

well obesity is more catastrophic for health then smoking

12/13/2007 5:30:07 PM

bttt by request

1/15/2009 8:58:37 AM

oh boy. more rolly-eyes to come

1/15/2009 3:09:10 PM

fucking kids and their fucking "insurance".

1/15/2009 3:27:09 PM

Tell me this isnt back from the dead?

1/15/2009 4:46:25 PM

if back from the dead you mean going to likely be signed into law in the next couple weeks, then yes, it is back from the dead.

1/15/2009 4:57:30 PM

awesome

1/15/2009 5:01:09 PM

I <3 the idea of working my ass off to subsidize the out of control exponential reproduction of lower class america by paying for their kids healthcare.

1/15/2009 5:14:54 PM

don't worry - your taxes aren't going towards this. China is paying for it, and at best, your grandkids will pay for it. That, or our debt will just be defaulted.

1/15/2009 5:18:04 PM

Since I'm sure this issue won't matter to many of you until it pops up on the far-left hate sites:

Children's health debate moves to Senate

http://tinyurl.com/9ya5fx

1/15/2009 5:36:28 PM

huh?

it's obviously on the radar. we talked about it before you posted the link.

you really do like put partisanship into everything don't you?

1/15/2009 5:37:57 PM

you do know it was hooksaw who requested his fest be BTTT'd.

1/15/2009 8:09:44 PM

per request

8/12/2009 9:21:04 AM

Quote :

"Mr. Rockefeller said he was unhappy that the legislation would end the Children's Health Insurance Program and could reduce the scope of benefits for 11 million children in the program. Asked if he would support the bill, Mr. Rockefeller shot back a somber, stony look. 'Can't you see the joy on my face?' he asked."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/health/policy/29health.html

8/12/2009 12:44:19 PM

8/12/2009 2:01:52 PM

8/12/2009 2:24:20 PM

Um. . .is all you can muster? This end of SCHIP doesn't bother you?

8/12/2009 4:36:07 PM

8/12/2009 4:40:35 PM

8/12/2009 6:46:45 PM

Quote :

"Mr. Rockefeller said he was unhappy that the legislation would end the Children's Health Insurance Program and could reduce the scope of benefits for 11 million children in the program. Asked if he would support the bill, Mr. Rockefeller shot back a somber, stony look. 'Can't you see the joy on my face?' he asked."

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/29/health/policy/29health.html

8/12/2009 6:51:04 PM

uh, is that in case someone missed the same post you just made 6 posts previously?

as a fellow troller, i've gotta say: you're really losing your touch, man.

it's kind of sad, really. it's like when an old baseball player who should be retired, comes back for that "one last season" and just staggers along with a .193 batting average in the DH position.

8/12/2009 7:06:18 PM

Quote :

"Can you--for once, you goddamned Left Coast fucking moonbat stooge--not focus on me and address the goddamned post? For once, you idiot?"

8/12/2009 7:46:19 PM

[Edited on August 12, 2009 at 7:49 PM. Reason : ]

8/12/2009 7:47:10 PM

Hooksaw isn't even at the Mendoza Line.

8/12/2009 10:31:08 PM

Quote :

"Can you--for once, you goddamned Left Coast fucking moonbat stooge--not focus on me and address the goddamned post? For once, you idiot [and cohorts]?"

8/13/2009 12:22:57 AM