simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the whole "we're better as an underdog" thing is getting really old" |
i agree.11/19/2007 7:12:29 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
i thought changing coaches we had overcome ncstate but this weekend pretty much sums up what it means to be ncstate.
late in a football game:
1.missed fg 2.blown coverage 3.pick 6
late in a basketball game:
1.stop scoring 2.4 point play 3.flagrant foul where nobody even falls 4.crazy 3 ftl 11/19/2007 7:19:33 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
give it time. 11/19/2007 7:20:16 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^^i hope you're not questioning whether that was a flagrant foul or not. it most certainly was. 11/19/2007 7:25:36 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
there are a lot more games. 11/19/2007 7:28:50 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
If you think of the long term scheme, it is good to know what rotations/players work and which ones don't. 11/19/2007 7:30:00 PM |
ncsucharlie Suspended 4074 Posts user info edit post |
i'm guessing he is talking about how stupid it was to commit that foul 11/19/2007 7:30:17 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
both. it was dumb but also thats only a foul if the guy is on a breakaway shooting, or going up for the basket. that same exact foul happens at the end of many games and is almost never called flagrant.
[Edited on November 19, 2007 at 7:39 PM. Reason : vandy style] 11/19/2007 7:39:05 PM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
why are we still ranked?
32nd and 33rd? 11/19/2007 8:05:33 PM |
PackMan03 All American 4594 Posts user info edit post |
yea, we deserve a spot in the bottom 10 for Sunday 11/19/2007 8:15:26 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
the flagrant call was questionable at best.
IMO, it was a bad call but also a bad foul. You would NEVER see that call go against Duke or UNC though that is for absolute certain.
The thing that pissed me off is that we didn't argue to have another half second added to the clock after the banked in three. We were owed at least that.
Duke would have gotten a fresh shot clock for gods sake. 11/19/2007 8:43:45 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
speaking of watching sidney lowe. is his show on wral's digital channel right now? (i'm on campus and just remembered it should be tonight) 11/19/2007 8:57:36 PM |
jay8895 Veteran 174 Posts user info edit post |
I was surprised the ref called the tech, because the one who called it was behind the players and couldn't see the way Fell's arm reached around the guy's body from that angle. But from the angle I saw it, it was definately a technical the way Fells made a grab at the guy and reached his arm around the guy's body to strip the ball away. He made a second tug at the guys arm after the initial contact which looked like he was just reaching out of pure frustration. He really had no chance at making a play at the ball so he deserved to be called for the technical. I just hope he uses better sense in the future.
[Edited on November 19, 2007 at 9:51 PM. Reason : .] 11/19/2007 9:47:50 PM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
First of all, Sidney Lowe's credibility should not be in question after just 1 loss (even one as dumb as this one). It's only his 2nd season, we have a LOT of new people to playing in his system. Right now, i agree with what was said before, that our team bought into the hype and not each other.
This is my suggestion: Unless there is a fast break, Sidney needs to be calling every damn play for the point guards... right now our PG play is very poor and needs time to develop
Also, I want to see Fells (PG), Costner(PF), McCauley (C), Grant (SG), and Horner(SF) start the next home game... our new guys need to see our veterans play with a little heart. I know this is not our strongest lineup by any means, but these guys were the ones who we called heros late last season - and everyone needs to be reminded why.
We need to take advantage of one of the nations top frontcourts (Not just Hickson). We need to have McCauley, Costner, Hickson out there at the same time once in a while. This will be a towering front court that we can really do a lot with.
Also, shoot the damn 3! we've had next to no outside shooting and consistancy... we cannot be 1 dimentional b/c that's already failed us.
As for Sid trying to play so many people... I think we should red shirt Tracy Smith Rotation should be: Starters: Degand, Grant, Fells, Costner, Hickson Bench: McCauley, Horner, Gonzo, and Johnson (when he's healthy) Emergency Bench: Smith, Ferg, Harris, Williams, Beard 11/20/2007 12:13:37 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, I want to see Fells (PG), Costner(PF), McCauley (C), Grant (SG), and Horner(SF) start the next home game" |
Wow, couldn't come up with a more idiotic line up.11/20/2007 12:18:47 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i'm sorry, but that is just a terrible post all around. 11/20/2007 12:21:12 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Each succeeding sentence in that post just gets more and more retarded 11/20/2007 12:23:15 AM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
Anything past the first 2 paragraphs gives me a headache trying to read it. 11/20/2007 12:31:23 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, I want to see Fells (PG), Costner(PF), McCauley (C), Grant (SG), and Horner(SF) start the next home game" |
did you see the games when we did that last year? jesus christ i never want to see this lineup again.11/20/2007 12:34:24 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Also, I want to see Fells (PG)" |
HA11/20/2007 12:49:45 AM |
Howard All American 1960 Posts user info edit post |
johnson is healthy 11/20/2007 12:51:15 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
^ oops... eligable
Also, that lineup being laughed at is the same group who stormed the ACC and NIT tourneys. We saw what they can do when they play together as a team and play inspired basketball. Also, like i said... only to start a game, not the whole damn thing... just to start off with a little fire and passion.
[Edited on November 20, 2007 at 12:54 AM. Reason : ] 11/20/2007 12:51:38 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
you're forgetting one key component of that lineup, little buddy. 11/20/2007 12:54:49 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
wat 11/20/2007 12:55:20 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
are you serious? 11/20/2007 12:55:57 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
*sigh* just say it. i said it's not our best lineup or most complete... just the team leaders getting the chance to show just that... leadership 11/20/2007 12:57:14 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
a point guard who's worth a damn 11/20/2007 12:57:41 AM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
well they sure as hell aren't showing anything when they're in the game and whining and moping around like a bunch of preschoolers. 11/20/2007 12:58:22 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
no shit.. we dont have any PG's playing sharp right now anyways. How much worse could it get?? 11/20/2007 12:58:40 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that lineup being laughed at is the same group who stormed the ACC and NIT tourneys" |
no it isn't11/20/2007 12:58:40 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
minus Atsur... but still 11/20/2007 12:59:26 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
It's not worth arguing with someone who is dumber than Earl 11/20/2007 12:59:40 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
than what do you suggest, since you know what you're talking about 11/20/2007 1:00:13 AM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
lol. agreed. This guy obviously doesn't know his head from his ass. 11/20/2007 1:00:24 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
than what do you suggest 11/20/2007 1:02:00 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "minus Atsur... but still" |
that's a GIGANTIC "but still"
fells can't run the point and horner is fucking garbage11/20/2007 1:02:19 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
alright... i'm not going to go back and forth with this... i dont really care what you think of my opinion. I'm just saying, if we want to prevent another UNO loss, we're going to have to play smarter and with more passion. 11/20/2007 1:03:13 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
if we're going to prevent another UNO loss we're going to have to play and coach smarter
starting fells at the point and horner anywhere would not be a smart coaching decision 11/20/2007 1:04:38 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Coach Lowe should prepare for the next game by only using sports cliches. 11/20/2007 1:06:59 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
I know McCauley had a high shooting % for us last year, but didnt Horner lead the team in 3pt %? could be wrong, and i dont feel like looking it up.
Also, is anyone else thinking we should red-shirt Tracy Smith? It just seems like he's not going to get much playing time this year. I dont want to waste an entire year for this kid like Herb did to Fells his freshman year
[Edited on November 20, 2007 at 1:09 AM. Reason : ] 11/20/2007 1:07:16 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
yeah
and he averaged all of one 3-point attempt per game 11/20/2007 1:10:03 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ lol
horner's not the problem here guyz.
[Edited on November 20, 2007 at 1:11 AM. Reason : .] 11/20/2007 1:10:38 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
They really have to take it to them. They have to play with their ears pinned back. They need to turn up the intensity. They have to step up and make plays. They have to come out of the locker room fired up. They're loaded for bear. They have to go out and take care of business. They can't let the crowd faze them. They have to get after it. They have to rise to the occasion. They have to stay hungry. They have to keep the continuity. They can't look past these guys. They can't take these guys lightly. They have to avoid a big letdown. They have to come together as a team. They have to believe in themselves. They have to play within themselves. They have to play like they're capable of playing. They have to step up their offensive production. They have to get the big guy involved in the offense. They can't be intimidated. They must control the tempo of the game. They have to dictate the tempo. They have to stick to their bread-and-butter offense. They should stick to the fundamentals. They have to eliminate the mental mistakes. They have to dig deep. They have to suck it up. They have to crank it up. They have to turn it up a notch. They need to step up to the next level. They must capitalize on their opportunities. They have to take advantage of their opportunities. They have to bend but not break. They have to stretch their defense. They have to shore up their defense. They have to pull out all the stops. They should just go out there and have fun. They're playing for pride. 11/20/2007 1:11:02 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "horner's not the problem here guyz" |
well of course he isn't
but this dude thinks horner should be starting
that would certainly be a problem11/20/2007 1:12:06 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
You can still redshirt if you play less than 4 or 5 games. Bartoz redshirted last year, and he played in 2 or 3 games
Lol... damnit guys, i didnt say for Horner to start EVERY game, just 1
[Edited on November 20, 2007 at 1:13 AM. Reason : ] 11/20/2007 1:12:42 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^ bart got a medical redshirt, sir. 11/20/2007 1:13:02 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
Bart got a medical redshirt THIS season, what about last season's redshirt? 11/20/2007 1:13:49 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
you have no idea what you're talking about 11/20/2007 1:14:45 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
YOU'RE TROLLING ME RIGHT?
YOU HAVE TO BE. 11/20/2007 1:14:54 AM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
Costner redshirted after playing 2-3 games 2 yrs ago. Bart redshirted after playing 2-3 games last year. I know he has a Med. RS this year. Does that mean he had 2 Med redshirts? i didnt know that was allowed.. i only thought a player could have 1 regular RS and 1 Med Redshirt as the maximum RS's possible for 1 player... im so confused... what's the actual rule??
[Edited on November 20, 2007 at 1:18 AM. Reason : ] 11/20/2007 1:18:02 AM |