eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Ron paul as VP
DNL, you think McCain needs Crist to carry florida? Did you get kicked in the head?
I guess the only way Obama wins NYC or California is if he picks Arnold or Bloomberg. Shit 6/17/2008 5:20:25 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^you sir are an idiot
[Edited on June 17, 2008 at 5:22 PM. Reason : ^^i didnt say it would be a bad choice...but i see him picking bloomberg before hagel] 6/17/2008 5:22:07 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
omg bloomberg would be the WORST CHOICE EVER!!!!!!! 6/17/2008 5:26:23 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
haha, yeah im an idiot dnl.
Im surprised you dont think obama needs a good VP to shore up the black vote.
6/17/2008 5:29:38 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^^god woman learn to read why dont you...i said its more likely...jesus christ
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/18/washington/18drill.html?_r=1&ref=politics&oref=slogin
Quote : | "Florida’s governor, Charlie Crist, a Republican, immediately joined Mr. McCain, saying he, too, now wants an end to the ban." |
i think he wants the job and knows hes like number 1 or 2
[Edited on June 18, 2008 at 1:29 AM. Reason : .]6/18/2008 1:15:46 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on June 18, 2008 at 1:57 AM. Reason : ]
6/18/2008 1:50:34 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
McCain / Palin would actually be a pretty tough ticket for the Dems to run against.
man....
the more i think of that, the more i think that could actually win.
6/18/2008 1:57:42 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
dnl, there is a new poll today showing Obama up in florida... maybe you were right.
In the election I just dont see florida going to obama. Plenty of time though. 6/18/2008 8:46:09 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
polls are awesome
just ask Thomas E. Dewey 6/18/2008 8:47:48 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080621/ap_on_el_pr/obama_hagel;_ylt=AnM4R8CFPd6waSDfjfa6IKis0NUE
ok i'm all for this if obama would offer it to him 6/21/2008 7:48:59 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
bttt
haven't watched TV in about a week...any developments or new rumors regarding the VP race? 7/21/2008 4:37:13 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ when are they picking this shit...it is getting annoying 8/14/2008 5:32:53 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
okay, who's the idiot who keeps throwing Ron Paul's name around in serious discussion.
the man runs around perpetually half-cocked. not even John McCain is stupid enough to pick him for Veep.
the analogue is to say Obama's going to pick Nader.
[Edited on August 14, 2008 at 6:17 PM. Reason : ] 8/14/2008 6:15:18 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
John Kerry as Obama's running mate?
http://wbztv.com/politics/jonkeller/john.kerry.vice.2.796143.html
http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/1094863-john-kerry 8/15/2008 6:37:43 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not buying it
and neither am i buying the biden
not sure about bayh 8/15/2008 6:45:52 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
If Obama picks Kerry and McCain picks a social conservative, I'll write in Obi Wan Kenobi 8/15/2008 6:47:38 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
bayd seems like an "ok" choice to me...i dont think he has any foriegn policy experience though...maybe i'm thinking of someone else...they say the kaine guy of va has like less total experience than obama so idk about him...never thought biden cause the guy runs his mouth too much...kerry aint even on my fuckin radar 8/16/2008 3:22:44 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on August 18, 2008 at 7:46 PM. Reason : !!!]
8/18/2008 7:46:32 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i really hope they are not waiting til like the day of the convention...thats pretty gay if you ask me
[Edited on August 18, 2008 at 8:10 PM. Reason : .] 8/18/2008 8:10:03 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
DO YOU NOT KNOW WHAT THE DRUDGE SIREN MEANS 8/18/2008 8:15:58 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
hmmmmmm...i guess i'd say bayd--->kaine--->biden
only cause bayd has a father in politics so hes prolly more clean(lol), kaine is a really big newcomer, and biden has a big fucking mouth 8/18/2008 9:28:37 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "drunknloaded The Puppet Master 136083 Posts user info edit post
i'm gonna go out on a limb and say my favorite candidicy would be obama/biden versus mccain/huckabee
[Edited on December 31, 2007 at 6:33 PM. Reason : .]
12/31/2007 6:26:49 PM" |
haha...it would be the shit if this happened8/19/2008 9:47:12 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Any chance Obama would go for Gore? It would be a surprise that would surely get a lot of news coverage, no one can say he doesn't have the requisite experience for the job after having been a part of the Clinton administration & potentially drawing in a few Clinton fans/voters, and the image he's created with his more progressive leanings, his environmental advocacy, and noble prize winning persona then he might fit into the Obama campaign theme without overshadowing Obama. 8/19/2008 11:59:49 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i dont think gore would accept 8/19/2008 12:00:59 PM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
I can't see Gore taking second seat to Obama. If he didn't want the Presidential nomination when it was practically offered up to him on a silver platter by the Democratic Party, then there's no chance that he'd want to sit around and be Vice President for another four or eight years. 8/19/2008 1:16:56 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Biden today said "I'm not the guy"
I hope its not Kaine. Who else is left?
My family shook hands with Obama tonight at the town hall meeting in Raleigh and they mentioned that in all his comments about what he wanted out of a VP he always used masculine pronouns. 8/19/2008 8:35:32 PM |
Redstains441 Veteran 180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "My family shook hands with Obama tonight at the town hall meeting in Raleigh and they mentioned that in all his comments about what he wanted out of a VP he always used masculine pronouns. " |
OMG! Story broke here! HRC is going to be Obama's VP! She's the most masculine democrat out there these days...8/19/2008 9:22:00 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i hope it's Tim Kaine.
democrat governor from virginia. very popular and likeable fellow. executive experience, fairly young (he's 50). will help him in the south. interesting tidbit: he's a roman catholic, did missionary work with the Jesuits.
he also looks like someone who could cover your back in a barfight. ... unlike that pretty-boy Joe Biden what with the botox, hair implants, and bleached teeth. 8/20/2008 1:56:27 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
the executive experience makes me want to say kaine(over bayd or biden), but the lack of experience makes me think repubs will pound that shit home come nov...idk its not like the dems were known as foreign policy experts anyways...in my personal opinion, i think biden makes the strongest ticket, but i dont know about the most electable ticket 8/20/2008 2:02:48 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i can't find anything to disagree with there. 8/20/2008 2:09:02 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0808/12652.html
saw this on real clear politics...god i hope its not true 8/20/2008 2:49:00 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Obama/Kerry 8/20/2008 4:22:28 AM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
nader wanted one last news story to be about him. 8/20/2008 9:51:25 AM |
dagreenone All American 5971 Posts user info edit post |
I hope not.
C'mon Kaine! 8/20/2008 11:48:56 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Go banana! 8/20/2008 11:56:30 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
obama is meeting that kaine guy tonight 8/20/2008 12:58:54 PM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
For a while I had really hoped Bobby Jindal would be McCain's pick, but he has been very emphatic that he wants to stay governor. He had a lot going for him -- he's very young, his policies appeal to the base, and, let's face it, he ain't white.
I do like the idea here:
http://time-blog.com/real_clear_politics/2008/05/what_about_jindal.html
Which suggests that they might be trying to line up Jindal for a prominent speaking role at the convention to set him up for a future run, like what happened with Obama in 2004.
Tom Ridge's association with Homeland Security seems like a liability to me, and Lieberman...meh. 8/20/2008 3:39:39 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Bobby Jindal as Vice President?
maybe... he could be in charge of evaluating demon possessions and scheduling exorcisms.
seriously. do you even know anything about this guy? hes a freak. 8/20/2008 4:00:34 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
“Beating a Demon: The Physical Dimensions of Spiritual Warfare” by Bobby Jindal, New Oxford Review, 1994
http://www.newoxfordreview.org/article.jsp?did=1294-jindal
Here's the summary from WordPress
Quote : | "Of the Collected Works of Bobby Jindal, one story, in particular, has been the subject of intense scrutiny. The story concerns Mr. Jindal, as an undergraduate, participating in a strange type of exorcism ceremony. This experience, claims Mr. Jindal, helped to underscore his nascent Catholic faith.
This, in a truncated and paraphrased form, is the now-famous exorcism story:
When Bobby Jindal was attending Brown University, he had a friend named “Susan.” Susan and Bobby were very close friends. Some people even thought the two were an item, but they never were. One day, Susan and Bobby attended a Christian concert, and in the middle of the show, Susan got up and left. Bobby knew something was wrong. He followed her outside, and she was sobbing. Bobby tried to console her. A female friend showed up and gave Susan a hug. Bobby knew the problem would not go away with a hug, and he offered to walk her back to her dorm room. Once they were in the room, Susan confessed why she was upset. She said she had cancer. Skin cancer. Bobby promised to stand by her forever. He sat next to her in bed and distracted her with “fairy tales.” Susan calmed down.
The next time they were supposed to meet for dinner, Susan was late. She refused to apologize, so Bobby refused to speak with her for a week. But they quickly resolved everything when Susan opened up about her nightmares and the strange, unknown odors emanating from her dorm room. Bobby attributed the odor to the devil, because it smelled like sulfur. Susan also told Bobby about speaking in tongues and visions she had. Bobby became worried and scared. Bobby had heard a priest claim that “angels, spirits, and other such apparitions” were not meant for literal interpretation. Still, he wanted to believe Susan.
When Susan was telling Bobby this, he excused himself and left the room. Then, he made the sign of the cross and prayed to God for help. When he walked back into the room, Susan “angrily lashed out” at Bobby, and he thought, “Gee. Thanks God. So much for prayer.”
The next day, when Susan went for another set of tests, Bobby and his friends in the University Christian Fellowship club (UCF) organized a prayer meeting for Susan later that evening. Bobby asked Susan if she wanted him to attend the meeting. At first she said no, but she quickly changed her mind.
The UCF prayer meeting was held in a classroom. A group of people, including Bobby, Susan, and Susan’s sister, sat in a circle on the floor and sang songs and prayed together. Suddenly, right after a group prayer, Susan “emitted some strange guttural sounds.” Bobby thought she may be having a seizure. Susan’s sister told everyone to place their hands on Susan’s body. Bobby “refused” and “froze in horror.” Susan began to scream Bobby’s name. She yelled, “Bobby, you cannot even love Susan.” Bobby thought it was funny she referred to herself in the third person. Bobby walked to the back of the room, and Susan began insulting every person in the room, revealing private information and embarrassing secrets.
Susan’s sister and a woman named “Louise,” who Bobby says was “a member of a charismatic church,” pinned Susan down and prayed loudly and desperately. They yelled things like, “Satan, I command you to leave this woman” and commanded “(all) demons to leave in the name of Christ.” Susan continued shouting. Bobby tried to remain calm, though at one point, he thought he could be having a stroke. Bobby considered calling the campus priest, but he also thought that Catholicism could actually be bogus. He was having questions about his faith. Instead, the students in the UCF meeting continued to pray for Susan. Bobby tried praying, but he became exhausted.
Susan attempted to escape, and during the scuffle, “Alice,” the student leader for Campus Crusade for Christ, “entered the room for the first time, brandishing a crucifix.” They had tried calling a “rival” Christian group to help, but the preacher “denied” their request for help and told them to not to “confront the demon.” Alice made Susan even angrier. Susan tried lunging toward the door. Bobby began repeating the Hail Mary over and over again. He said, “Being new to Catholicism, I had yet to accept the Catholic doctrines concerning Mary and considered any form of Marian devotion to be idolatry.” But he could not think of anything else at the time, so he prayed to Mary.
Susan eventually calmed down because of the crucifix, and her sister brought out a Bible. They all began daring Susan to read passages from the Bible. She would begin to read a passage and then blurt out obscenities. But after reading several passages, Susan changed, almost in an instant. She proclaimed, “Jesus is Lord,” and then told everyone she could not remember “any of the past few hours.”
Susan even asked Bobby if he was okay. Bobby told Susan’s sister he would “commit” to a “nightlife” of prayer for Susan. Susan spent the night in the house of a missionary, because her roommate had pagan-looking decorations in their dorm room.
Bobby felt a renewed appreciation for his Catholic faith. He no longer doubted, as he had only hours before.
Susan and Bobby stayed friends. Susan even became a Catholic. And her cancer somehow completely disappeared.
--http://tinyurl.com/689zoj" |
[Edited on August 20, 2008 at 4:13 PM. Reason : ]8/20/2008 4:12:07 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I've heard he claimed to cure her cancer with exorcism. Only 1 more miracle and he can qualify for sainthood. Not everyone will see a religious based curing of cancer as being a "freak" 8/20/2008 6:27:14 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NGRhNzJlMWY5NjdiNzhjMTRkYjMzNjYwOGJmYzNjMTY=
lots of good clips imo 8/20/2008 6:54:21 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Not everyone will see a religious based curing of cancer as being a "freak"" |
so, Jindal has the UFO Hunters and Old Catholic Ladies vote wrapped up.
yeah, i admit: Barack's got nothin' on him there.8/20/2008 7:30:45 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
Hasn't Jindal pretty much said there is no way he will be the VP pick, that he doesn't want it and is planning on running for LA gov again?
and Biden would be a terrible pick for Obama imho. Another northern Democrat, yeah...
Clinton would be a good choice in terms of getting elected, but would be terrible for Obama if he won with her as VP. 8/20/2008 7:44:04 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i agree, Biden would be a terrible choice: an entrenched washinton senator from DELAWARE for chrissakes. and he looks like a prettier version of Bill Clinton. sorry, i just cant get past his sculpted face and ridiculously perfect, white teeth. he's a great senator, i hope he stays where he's at, but he's everything that Obama's "Change" is not.
i don't necessarily think Clinton will help Obama be more electable. fuck her cranky supporters, they'll get back on the bus. if clinton were VP nom, i really think she'll just drive more of the dejected fundamentalists and angry white men out of their holes to come vote *against* her. she's just too damn polarizing. 8/20/2008 7:56:04 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
i'm still holding a torch for bill richardson, but it looks grim at this point 8/20/2008 8:06:29 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, man, i like him a lot... but it was "looking grim" as soon as he started growing the beard. 8/20/2008 8:16:06 PM |
Ytsejam All American 2588 Posts user info edit post |
This picture makes me lol.
I think Kaine or Bayh would be the best choice, in terms of electability.
8/20/2008 9:00:28 PM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Richardson's dead to me. I mean, like 99.9% of all politicians are too, but still. I dunno. There's not really anybody who doesn't have any negatives in the running. 8/20/2008 9:26:29 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
What's wrong with Richardson?
I still like Biden and hate Bayh, fwiw 8/20/2008 9:37:07 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
Richardson has negatives? like what? why you hating on the guy??
he's NOT a bad candidate. He's really a good guy, and has solid experience -- he may well have made a great VP pick for Clinton or Edwards, had Obama not been in the picture (and edwards not been a sleazy sonofabitch :grr: )
but you cant have two ethnic minorities on one ticket. sorry. i hate to sound racist, but our country is not ready for that yet. and New Mexico only has a small amount of electoral votes that are already going Obama. Richardson is a quiet hero, he doesnt have any real "Bang"
im not saying Kaine has "Bang" necessarily, but he is gov of a *swing state* that is traditionally republican but could go dem, with a lot of electoral votes. Kaine also appeals to the southern white working class male. definitely something that Obama needs. executive experience will defuse any argument that his ticket is unbalanced. Richardson would have added substantial foriegn policy experience, but not enough to overcome the deficits.
[Edited on August 20, 2008 at 9:39 PM. Reason : ] 8/20/2008 9:38:49 PM |