Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
3 1/7/2008 12:43:40 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^^if the dems did that i'd lose all faith in them...how do you have a pres thats been in the senate for like 5 years and a vice pres that hasnt done anything since unsuccessfully running for pres in 2004, after only being in the senate for like 1 term 1/7/2008 12:53:07 AM |
mrfrog ☯ 15145 Posts user info edit post |
Al Gore. 1/7/2008 1:02:00 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
an Obama-Ron Paul ticket is the stuff of fantasies, but a lot of young people would love it 1/7/2008 12:18:27 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
what?
Who even thinks that either of them would remotely consider running with the other except for the most ignorant of political hacks? 1/7/2008 12:24:15 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i understand why people like ron paul but i dont get how they think he'd win 1/7/2008 12:28:37 PM |
SmoothTalker Veteran 198 Posts user info edit post |
Obama/Paul is probably far-fetched (I'd personally love it) but he would cover the areas Obama is weak.
Obama = lack of experience Obama = wants change but doesnt have specific plans Obama = very articulate
Paul = 20yrs in congress Paul = change in current policies across the board, has specific plans Paul = not articulate
Really the only downside to Paul being his running-mate is that he is a Republican and has gotten some negative media for his anti-war views. But I honestly think thats an automatic 10% boost to the democrat ticket. As long as Obama limits Paul's exposure to the media and highlights his record and principles I think it would work brilliantly.
Add in the fact the Paul's support is only going to increase, and that he has very economy centered views in a time when the dollar crisis is becoming the primary issue.
[Edited on January 7, 2008 at 12:34 PM. Reason : ] 1/7/2008 12:31:17 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what?
Who even thinks that either of them would remotely consider running with the other except for the most ignorant of political hacks?" |
that's why i said its a Peter Pan concept1/7/2008 2:50:46 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Really the only downside to Paul being his running-mate is that he is a Republican and" | has practically no policy in common with Obama.1/7/2008 2:54:35 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Obama makes me think of Chris Rock's Bigger & Blacker when he said "I want a motherfucker who moves me." 1/7/2008 3:05:37 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Obama = lack of experience" |
kinda likes Bush's sole xp before being president was 3 years as governor.1/7/2008 3:06:20 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Bush won cause of his last name... 1/7/2008 3:14:56 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
bullshit, he won because of his command of the english language, strong Southern conservative credentials, and complex understanding of foreign policy last name. 1/7/2008 3:19:42 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Damn, polls show him with 10 points over Clinton in NH - just realized that. He almost has the nomination on lock. 1/7/2008 3:22:12 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Winning Iowa and NH don't lock in the nomination.... it makes it hard for other to overcome the momentum, but if HRC or Edwards comes out swinging for NV or SC, and then Super Tuesday, Obama doesn't necessarily get the delegates at convention... 1/7/2008 3:26:10 PM |
JCASHFAN All American 13916 Posts user info edit post |
So I talked to some folks who worked for Wesley Clark. Consensus: he's an asshole (not surprising, most Generals come across this way) and doesn't deal well with dissent. There are more details, but that pretty much sums it up.
Of course, as we have seen, being a self-serving asshole with a penchant for surrounding yourself with sycophants doesn't disqualify you from being the VP. So I guess I withdraw my initial reservation. 1/8/2008 8:14:11 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
right now Obama and McCain are the front runners - i'd be fine with either.
i like Obama because he is surrounded by economics guys from U of chicago -- which patently makes him a non-socialist. you get him or McCain and ABC (Anybody but Cheney) as vp + any congress that will keep taxes on the middle classs low (including getting rid of the AMT) + the steepening yield curve (which has already started), and small caps will start tearing it up. the nasdaq will hit 4000 within 18 months. i bet hi-tech salaries in RTP would increase by 25% within the first two years of the presidency. it would be like the late 90s all over again - except this time we hope to be smart enough not to get a zillion retarded dotcoms with fake market caps.
with either of these guys it just seems like we're in for better times, especially if we make real attempts to kick or crack habit and stop depending on those women-oppressing facist neanderthals in the desert. 1/8/2008 4:46:21 PM |
DiamondAce Suspended 12937 Posts user info edit post |
Hulkster just gave his support to Obama. 1/30/2008 12:38:44 AM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
Obama-Hogan '08 ? 1/30/2008 12:49:24 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
richardson or biden? idk
seems like clinton is gonna win big on super tuesday 1/30/2008 1:56:56 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
could hulk hogan beat up chuck norris? 1/30/2008 2:00:29 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
If Obama gets the nomination, I see a couple things happen here. He will select a southern democratic governor. Someone like Mike Easley, Fmr Gov. Warner, or goes southwest and selects someone like Bill Ritter or Janet Napolitano. 1/30/2008 2:17:11 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
Easley or Bredesen would be good. Warner won't do it I bet, he's got the Senate seat locked up.
If he goes SW, wouldn't the likely suspect be Richardson? 1/30/2008 2:19:21 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i'd figure obama would get someone with some type of foreign policy experience 1/30/2008 2:21:59 PM |
LunaK LOSER :( 23634 Posts user info edit post |
in which case, Richardson would be the easy fit....
Warner doesnt really have foreign experience, most governors wouldn't either 1/30/2008 2:31:23 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Richardson is a no go. The man is a freakin' Hispanic for chrissakes and didn't do to well in the primary. Richardson will end up in a Cabinet position, such as Sec. State. 1/30/2008 2:33:18 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
this situation is perplexing to me...i really dont want 2 senators on the same ticket, but a governor i would think would have more executive experience than a senator...roddy always is saying some dude from florida so that dems win florida but idk 1/30/2008 2:36:03 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
Roddy is a fucking idiot. The future of the Democratic party is the South west. But you've already had your answers. You just like to ask retarded caged questions to make yourself sound or look smart. 1/30/2008 2:39:12 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
you just like to come off as a douche on tww 1/30/2008 2:41:12 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
i swear everyone of your "I'm pretending to be smart by asking this really in depth question" statements is a direct sentence from a post on politco. 1/30/2008 2:44:28 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
only political website i visit is http://www.realclearpolitics.com 1/30/2008 2:47:27 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
exactly my point. 1/30/2008 2:59:04 PM |
Agent 0 All American 5677 Posts user info edit post |
it's already been exclaimed in the prophecies...
1/30/2008 3:02:33 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
HAHAHA
I love Gilbert Arenas. 1/30/2008 3:05:10 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Like our current VP, Arenas will spend much of his time in office being operated on 1/30/2008 3:09:52 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "exactly my point." |
shut the fuck up you god damn cockrag
jesus you suck so fucking bad1/31/2008 2:41:09 AM |
montclair All American 1372 Posts user info edit post |
i agree with dnl for once.....quit trolling
how the fuck did this thread even entertain the ron paul possibility? sorta embarrassing
I like the idea of a Southern Dem Gov. Warner or Easley...BUt Warner isn't interested. 1/31/2008 4:35:33 AM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
^^You are nothing more than a tape recorder of your fucking self. You ask the same questions over and over again, and make some of the most asinine statements possible. We get it, you think McCain will win, we get it, you have the political astuteness of a 4th grader. Reading your posts is like getting a recap of Chris Matthews from 3 nights ago. You offer nothing new and are a soft skulled blight on humanity.
Just read your post. You quote Roddy like he is gospel
[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 12:34 PM. Reason : .] 1/31/2008 12:34:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148450 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it will be Richardson...too much minority for that ticket...it will be a white man imo 1/31/2008 12:38:58 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Obama/Paul, are you kidding me? You know, there are two factions of Ron Paul supporters. The one I'm part of supports Ron Paul because they believe in the constitution. The other faction, the "PAUL-KUCINICH 08" or "OBAMA-PAUL 08" crowd, doesn't have the slightest understanding of, well, anything. People like Obama are Kucinich are for big government. Period, end of story. 1/31/2008 12:48:44 PM |