have they provided a way to monitor your bw usage?

4/2/2009 9:53:32 AM

Yes - they have a website you can go to and see your usage.

It will be linked to your account login with http://www.selfcare.rr.com


[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 10:04 AM. Reason : a]

4/2/2009 10:00:48 AM

Why not just do like everyone else and drop TWC. That seems like the thing to do these days. I did it myself months ago, and a friend said the other week that there was a line out the door of people turning in equipment. Apparently the recession is helping to unclog the internet a bit.

4/2/2009 10:10:36 AM

did you go to DSL?

my 1-year special-rates just expired on RR. I'm either going to switch, or at least going to figure our some prices for DSL or earthlink or whatever so I can call RR and see if they'll match them

4/2/2009 10:14:33 AM

Time Warner will give you back the discount, I don't think they match prices exactly. I did this successfully, and it's time to do it again I think. All I did was get the dish page up and said I was considering switching because of the price difference between what I had and their base package price.

4/2/2009 10:23:03 AM

So they went through with it huh? I imagine TWC customers that care will make the switch... until the competition gets on board and there's nowhere to turn.

4/2/2009 11:32:21 AM

from the locked thread:
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=14733

4/2/2009 12:15:27 PM

http://droptimewarnercable.com/

4/2/2009 4:03:32 PM

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"Yes - they have a website you can go to and see your usage. It will be linked to your account login with http://www.selfcare.rr.com"

Don't see my usage anywhere on there.

4/2/2009 4:07:30 PM

this is ridiculous. srsly?

4/2/2009 4:07:34 PM

Screw TWC as soon as AT&T rolls out to this neighborhood I'm switching. You'd think they'd realize with the number of tech people in this area that this would probably be a suicide move. Also with AT&T now being a relative competitor why screw your customers even more and make them jump ship?

Oh wait, it's TWC, that's why.

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 4:11 PM. Reason : dumb-ass-hattery]

4/2/2009 4:09:20 PM

Quote :

"Screw TWC as soon as AT&T rolls out to this neighborhood I'm switching"

4/2/2009 4:12:00 PM

I had the best time canceling TWC. Still waiting on my $72 refund check.

4/2/2009 4:14:06 PM

For all of you saying you will switch to ATT, they announced they will be switching to metered bandwidth as well in several areas. No news on Raleigh yet but its coming Im sure.

Do like me, move back on campus. Free Internet that pwns all you and electricity FTW!

</geek>

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 4:17 PM. Reason : !]

4/2/2009 4:16:49 PM

Or leach off all your neighbors wifi one by one until everyone around you is maxed out.

AT&T would be smart to not roll that shit out here. They'd get a huge influx of customers pissed off at TWC.

[Edited on April 2, 2009 at 4:23 PM. Reason : -]

4/2/2009 4:22:30 PM

What is the cap being trialed? 5 GB/month? 40 GB/month?

4/2/2009 4:36:12 PM

To those of you who have dropped TWC did you get e-bill reminders? I am still getting them for 0.00 bills. Apparently they left my online account active even though im not using them. They said I had to call support to turn it off but I don't feel like waiting 2 hours on hold just to turn off an auto emailer.

I suppose people like me are why they have no bandwith. Emailing to people who don't even use their service anymore.

4/2/2009 4:44:28 PM

Quote :

"What is the cap being trialed? 5 GB/month? 40 GB/month?"

according to the article above, 5 GB/month for the cheapest tier, 40 GB/month for the most expensive.

the article said that the cheap tier is 29.99 per month.

4/2/2009 4:47:17 PM

I'd say on average I use about 8 GB per month, but if torrent a few things or grab some Linux ISOs that number can go way up.

4/2/2009 4:50:22 PM

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"I suppose people like me are why they have no bandwith. Emailing to people who don't even use their service anymore."

lawl

4/2/2009 4:52:42 PM

Quote :

"Interesting Facts 40 GB is: Around 9 hours of high def video. (Hulu HD, Netflix HD, etc) Around 45 hours of SD video. (Standard Hulu, Netflix, etc) Around 4,000 hours of X-Box Live/PS3 Network The average American watches around 150 hours of TV per month The average size of a song on iTunes is 4MB The avrage size of a SD movie on iTunes is 550MB "

4/2/2009 7:50:57 PM

i think people are missing the whole theory behind metered internet, and what effect it could possibly have in the future

NOT having to worry about your usage, how big a file is, how long a movie is, how big an email attachment is, etc - IS why the internet is what it is today

we live in the land of unlimited weekend minutes, free drink refills, unlimited fortune cookies at pei wei, and all-you-can-eat salad bars - Americans do NOT like being metered, even if they wont come anywhere near the upper limits

4/2/2009 8:19:43 PM

Interesting fact: TWC would be happy to lose all of you as customers.

4/2/2009 8:21:08 PM

If they charged you less for using less, then I could take being charged more for going over.

But it's pure bullshit that they charge you if you go over.

4/2/2009 8:25:23 PM

well they do have a tiered pricing structure.... and there ARE fixed costs you have to pay for. Even the natural gas company charges a minimum of $15/mo even if you don't use any.

4/2/2009 8:42:11 PM

^that can't be right. My rents pay ~$5-$7 a month for their gas bill on average.

4/2/2009 8:51:37 PM

It's like they have a different gas company or something.

4/2/2009 9:00:24 PM

Quote :

"well they do have a tiered pricing structure.... and there ARE fixed costs you have to pay for..."

Maybe they should have rollover GB. If you dont use is you can the next month . At least then I wouldnt feel cheated if I had to pay for a higher tier just because I use 1GB more than their smaller tier.

Also...who do you use for gas?? I don't know anyone getting that charge, and many of the people I work with use natural gas.

4/2/2009 9:07:25 PM

i have nothing constructive to add other than saying fuck TWC

4/2/2009 9:11:38 PM

What I think will happen is TWC will continue to expand their own backbone and offer local caching services (for a reasonable fee of course) to companies like hulu. The content hosted there or tied into their backbone would be immune to the caps. The effective result being prices for users would stay the same, performances is better due to local caches, and rr makes some $texas off the content providers.

4/2/2009 9:14:00 PM

^^ I actually found that incredibly constructive as I too hate TWC with a passion

^That would be reasonable. However TWC is known for screwing over their users at any chance and would probably attempt to raise their rates without the need, while still getting money from the content providers.

4/2/2009 9:17:55 PM

yea, they would probably charge an extra $10/mo to the consumer for "super" turbo on select sites

4/2/2009 9:20:03 PM

Putting it on the consumer wont work. Theres only so much blood you can get from that stone.

In the case of Hulu the content is already created and owned by the companies involved (fox, nbc, etc...). Their biggest cost is going to be their own bandwidth out to the internet. Thats where the money is and thats where TWC wants to go. If they offer cap-free caching services then Hulu's options are a) hope local laws loosen up and allow more local isp competition (lol) b) pay TWC to cache their content c) replace their current backbone provider with TWC.

Over time tier 1 backbones (AT&T, verizon, et. all) will realise twc is eating their lunch and either do the same thing (content caching) or try to come up with a mutual agreement. Like say Hulu is on twc and youtub is on verizon, they go "Hey i'll trade u my utubs for ur hulus". Either way the network providers and content providers are battling it out for access to the other's customers. This would create more competition in the already competitive provider market.

Right now I have 2 ISP networks i can pick from (twc and fairpoint(lol))> Luckily for me TWC maine is actually really good. However, for my datacenter I can pick between twc, fairpoint, verizon, at&t, and any of the resellers who run off their networks. If any competition is going to occur its going to be on the supply side.

4/2/2009 9:36:06 PM

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"the vibrant online community that once earned this city the nickname “Blogsboro.”"

uh

who the hell ever heard that?

only nickname i've ever heard for it was "greensboring"

4/2/2009 9:48:55 PM

http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/23/entertainment/et-greensboro23

4/2/2009 11:08:07 PM

^^ spent years 2-18 there, to which I say, yes it is sboring. This bytes

4/2/2009 11:14:27 PM

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"NOT having to worry about your usage, how big a file is, how long a movie is, how big an email attachment is, etc - IS why the internet is what it is today "

this is exactly right. especially as files continue to increase in size and the prevalence of online content becomes more pronounced. Right now it may be hard to reach the limit, but as time progresses with will become easier and easier.


plus the whole unlimited thing is pretty much what they used to lampoon other services when they were still vibrantly operating.

4/2/2009 11:47:24 PM

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"It's like they have a different gas company or something."

It's like you have a man crush on me or something.

4/3/2009 12:08:47 AM

I don't see how replying to your dumb comment would imply that I have any sort of "man-crush" on you, but whatever, it's your fantasy.

4/3/2009 12:18:29 AM

You have to be really naive to think that this is anything less than a shitbag of a company exercising monopoly power where it can.

This will not work anywhere where there is any competition ... which is why the government, obama, whoever should do everything possible to expose service providers to the maximum amount of competition. The long-lingering regional monopolies we hare are fucking stupid and are holding broadband back.

The areas where you have fios, several cable providers, and several dsl providers are the best areas for broadband customers. It's really simple what's going on, and it boggles my mind that there are apologist idiots up here who have nothing to do with the company.

[Edited on April 3, 2009 at 12:36 AM. Reason : .]

4/3/2009 12:31:10 AM

^ its not like there's a bunch of companies out there clamoring to build the infrastructure necessary to offer alternatives

I really don't understand what you are trying to advocate here. It's not like there's some sort of magic solution that makes it cheaper to offer the same service from scratch.

4/3/2009 12:35:53 AM

this thread is full of people who are mad that their massive use of bandwidth will no longer be subsidized by normal people who don't bit-torrent or whatever the new piracy tool is.

4/3/2009 12:45:27 AM

what about the ppl that watch shit from netflix or hulu?

4/3/2009 12:54:58 AM

Quote :

"this thread is full of people who are mad that their massive use of bandwidth will no longer be subsidized by normal people who don't bit-torrent or whatever the new piracy tool is."

this thread is full of people who just dont get it

4/3/2009 1:47:49 AM

where this is going to get tricky is people leaching off their neighbors wireless.

4/3/2009 7:25:24 AM

For fucks sake Solitardi, is one time warner metering thread not enough for your trolling, you have to come in here and post your diarrhea as well?

Disappear from the internet again like before, you're value add is in the negative territory.

4/3/2009 7:32:01 AM

Quote :

"use of bandwidth will no longer be subsidized by normal people who don't bit-torrent or whatever the new piracy tool is "

That right there shows you haven't done your homework. There are a large number of legal things you can download to push you over those limits. Not to mention that they could move this pricing strategy into the business class as well, which would cause a lot of businesses to get awfully pi$$ed off (although I dont see that happening anytime soon).

Quote :

"its not like there's a bunch of companies out there clamoring to build the infrastructure necessary to offer alternatives"

ATT has already started doing just that with Uverse. If other companies see ATT getting a lot of footing here then they too may try to move in. There is no quick solution to cheap internet, but if you do things right as a company then in the long run you should be able to work towards that. TWC never has.

4/3/2009 9:15:46 AM

So the plan for AT&T is to wait until all the TWC customers make the switch, then start up their own metered usage plan with slightly cheaper rates than TWC. That way they would be less likely to lose customer back to TWC and probably still experience a continual influx of people making the switch.

Quote :

"i think people are missing the whole theory behind metered internet, and what effect it could possibly have in the future NOT having to worry about your usage, how big a file is, how long a movie is, how big an email attachment is, etc - IS why the internet is what it is today"

This. And $30.00/month for 5GB? Get real.

4/3/2009 9:19:58 AM

i wouldnt mind the caps if the pricing structure was lower.

but 5 GB is retarded. I think the smallest cap should start out at least 20 and go from there

4/3/2009 9:27:32 AM

Quote :

"So the plan for AT&T is to wait until all the TWC customers make the switch, then start up their own metered usage plan with slightly cheaper rates than TWC"

That may be true, but hopefully they'd at least be less. Besides I have a feeling there will always be some small growth company that will try to have unmetered plans just to pull the people who arent willing to be capped away from the larger companies. Even if it's a third party like Earthlink.

I agree though that if everyone is going to go to caps, they should at least be realistic about it and start at something higher than 5GB. For 30bux a month they could at least handle 15 or 20 like erice said.

4/3/2009 9:40:37 AM