http://www.wral.com/sports/story/3159452/

story on the ballot stuffing

[Edited on July 8, 2008 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ]

7/8/2008 2:05:22 PM

lol.

i was surprised they let it go for so long.

7/8/2008 2:05:35 PM

http://www.wral.com/sports/basketball/ncaa/page/3146908/

Vote for 1973 and 1974 State teams obviously. Vote against all UNC teams.

7/8/2008 2:06:46 PM

Someone post this in Chit Chat. TWW poll skewers unite!

7/8/2008 2:10:27 PM

Thats pretty fucking hilarious.

7/8/2008 2:10:56 PM

I am sure there is a way to bypass the new regime over there. For instance, set it up so the voting computer releases its IP

7/8/2008 2:11:48 PM

so did the 10,000 votes come from us or packpride?

7/8/2008 2:26:55 PM

so for screwing this round is there anything complicated i need to do (clear browser cache, change ip, etc)

7/8/2008 2:38:40 PM

^^qtnfred

7/8/2008 2:40:11 PM

it's likely tracked by IP

7/8/2008 2:41:01 PM

What if we all ran the script? They couldn't not count the votes if hundreds of computers were mass voting. Then it would seem like since the round has gotten more intense the hardcore fans have came out in full force. I could run it from both my work and home computer.

7/8/2008 2:47:31 PM

We can always mess up their Wikipedia page.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WRAL-TV

7/8/2008 2:50:51 PM

How about you just don't cheat?

7/8/2008 2:52:17 PM

well that wouldnt be any fun would it

7/8/2008 3:20:30 PM

i understand what you're saying ernie, but there's really no honor in legitimately winning a wral poll.

7/8/2008 3:31:07 PM

I guess. If I gave a shit about internet polls, I'd vote UNC's '57 team over State in '73. '73 State was a great team, but who knows what they were actually capable of. They could've lost in the first round for all we know.

Interesting fact: Lennie Rosenbluth (star of UNC's '57 championship team) wanted to play for Everett Case but Case took away his scholarship offer at the last second. Just think, we could have had Rosenbluth's and Maravich's jerseys in the rafters, along with a few more championship banners. Oh, what could have been.

[Edited on July 8, 2008 at 3:46 PM. Reason : ]

7/8/2008 3:44:38 PM

Quote :

"Ernie All American 24531 Posts user info edit post How about you just don't cheat?"

this brought a tear to my eye... I am proud of you ernie...

7/8/2008 5:43:03 PM

Just talked to my friend who works at WRAL and one IP had 10000 votes come from it. So if you are that obvious they will just correct it. All you need to do is be more subtle about it.

7/8/2008 9:23:54 PM

Well we were able to eliminate the Tar Heels once again. Job well done. The Final Four is 1991 Duke vs. 1992 Duke and 1973 State vs. 1974 State.



http://www.wral.com/sports/basketball/ncaa/page/3146908/

[Edited on July 9, 2008 at 12:29 PM. Reason : ]

7/9/2008 12:28:37 PM

I agree with that except for the 82 UNC team. I picked them over that Duke team. I don't really know who was better of these teams, since they have most of the same players. I'm gonna say '73 though.

7/9/2008 12:32:52 PM

The way they set up the brackets it looks like they were hoping to get 4 different teams in the Final Four.

'74 State against '74 Maryland on one end and '82 UNC against '92 Duke on the other.

Honestly...that's probably how it should have been. Pretty sweet matchups those would have been.

7/9/2008 12:45:59 PM

http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/sportsnation/story?page=NCAA1974NCState


some good info on 1974 state for those who dont know.

I knew the only loss was to the UCLA mega-dynasty, but it's interesting to note it was only the 3rd game of the season.

Also, for the team to average 91.4 ppg is insane, because there was no 3 point line. Thats just ridiculous

^ and I agree that too many casual fans discount '74 maryland.. they were top dawgs and could have easily won the ncaa if we didnt beat them in triple OT in the greatest game of all time

[Edited on July 9, 2008 at 12:57 PM. Reason : maryland]

7/9/2008 12:56:29 PM

Well, now we just have to make sure State wins it all.

7/9/2008 1:36:37 PM

^ ZOMG NOOB KKTHX BBQ

7/9/2008 1:52:16 PM

7/9/2008 1:53:57 PM

AND HER WE GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo!

GO PACK!

7/10/2008 12:27:24 PM

w00t

i contend that we beat 92 duke in a blowout...you know damn well the tarhole fans will vote for us wuffies over their hated dookies

(apparently they call us "woofies" btw)

7/10/2008 12:57:34 PM

yeah i never understood the "woofies" thing. it's not insulting in the least.

7/10/2008 1:48:00 PM

Wow I just checked it and here's what it looks like so far

1992 Duke 14%
1974 NC State 86%

7/10/2008 2:36:47 PM

im afraid that someone is skewing it too much and many of the results wont count, and that perhaps the race is much closer than it seems

7/10/2008 2:39:59 PM

well none of it really counts. it's a poll on the website of a local news station, and a bad local news station at that.

7/10/2008 2:42:07 PM

Who were the members on that '74 State team that went undefeated??

7/10/2008 3:05:40 PM

Thompson, Burleson, Towe, Stoddard, Rivers, Spence

7/10/2008 3:06:58 PM

'74 team didn't go undefeated. '73 team.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong here....

'73 team beat UCLA in the regular season and went undefeated throughout but didn't get to go to tourney because of recruiting violations with Thompson.

'74 team lost an extremely close game with UCLA in the regular season and then beat them in the final four to break their title run and then Marquette in the finals?? And their only loss was to UCLA that year. Basically meaning that they went undefeated in the ACC for two straight years?? Pretty fucking impressive.

7/10/2008 3:15:44 PM

You're right except that the loss to UCLA in '74 wasn't close. It was the third game of the season and UCLA won by 20 or so.

7/10/2008 3:18:11 PM

^^ I believe he was asking who was on the '74 team that was also on the undefeated '73 team

[Edited on July 10, 2008 at 4:13 PM. Reason : .]

7/10/2008 4:13:11 PM

http://www.wral.com/sports/blogpost/3189804/

Nice story.

7/11/2008 1:04:38 PM

Quote :

""Well, Laettner's not a true 7-footer," said the 7-foot-2 Burleson. "He's gonna fall into the same category as Elmore as far as he's a great center, but Laettner's not seven feet tall...and I've never had anybody under seven feet that could guard me.""

awesome

7/11/2008 11:05:19 PM

Quote :

"The Pack earned 64% of the vote (3,572-2,031), easily outgaining their opponent in the finals, the Christian Laettner, Bobby Hurley and Grant Hill-led 1992 Blue Devils"

lol quite a bit different than the 86-14 vote that it was before

7/11/2008 11:26:02 PM