^^

7/13/2008 3:28:05 PM

kiwi

7/13/2008 3:31:48 PM

7/13/2008 3:33:57 PM

her boobs already sag.

7/13/2008 3:36:10 PM

Congrats but ya:

Quote :

"dang homey thats early something like 30% pregnancies end up in miscarriages "

that why most people don't announce anything till later

7/13/2008 3:36:29 PM

Quote :

"if anything happens with you and baby's daddy, don't use your kid as a pawn. don't try to keep him away from his child unless it's legitimately in the child's best interest (and not some dumb shit that you rationalize in your crazy jilted chick, possibly postpartum mind). "

I think everyone who's ever seen her post knows that she's going to do exactly this.

7/13/2008 3:36:52 PM

I don't know, I'm a little freaked and a loud mouth at it's worst. Im gonna call on Monday to set up an apt though....

Miscarriages aren't common in my family but I guess we'll wait and see...

7/13/2008 3:37:44 PM

well i know most people don't and won't ever know that they even had a miscarriage when its early on b/c they don't take pregger tests till later.

http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical/sexual/miscarriage.html just some good info.

7/13/2008 3:56:21 PM

fuck the wedding, it would be cool if it was just a banana shotgun. or a shotgun banana.

[Edited on July 13, 2008 at 4:30 PM. Reason : that reminds me i have a banana to eat.]

7/13/2008 4:29:35 PM

I ate a banana this morning!

Oh and on the whole telling too soon, Im only told my mom and sister because my mom has experience and my sister happened to be there. No one else will know til dr.'s apt.

[Edited on July 13, 2008 at 4:35 PM. Reason : ^^Ill read that when I'm not at work]

7/13/2008 4:34:30 PM

7/13/2008 4:48:50 PM

this thread is ridiculous.

7/13/2008 5:33:34 PM

No one else will know it except for the entire Tdub community that happens to read this thread.

7/13/2008 5:49:47 PM

Kiwi is the new NCSUJami.

Is NCSUStinger the father?

[Edited on July 13, 2008 at 5:51 PM. Reason : 2]

7/13/2008 5:51:33 PM

Haha... TWW is the LAST place that I'd go if something major happened in my life... I know some people on here but why the hell anyone concerns a bunch of randoms who make it a point to make fun of everyone/everything with their personal issues is still beyond me... and I've been on here for like 6 or 7 years..

7/13/2008 5:51:45 PM

7/13/2008 5:55:14 PM

tdub community reaches as far as my computer screen.

7/13/2008 5:58:42 PM

well good luck....may the baby be healthy

7/13/2008 6:01:35 PM

Thank You.

7/13/2008 6:03:43 PM

7/13/2008 6:04:40 PM

^lol

7/13/2008 7:32:05 PM

i feel bad for the kid

7/15/2008 12:27:25 PM

you really think you are stable enough emotionally and financially to be a mother?

7/15/2008 12:55:22 PM

did we already cover that it's "bonanza" and not "bananza"?

unless she's giving birth to the peanut butter jelly time banana

7/15/2008 1:03:20 PM

i'm confused...Kiwi is pregnant? planned or unplanned? with a boyfriend or one-night stand? she's really getting married?

7/15/2008 1:04:16 PM

yes, unplanned, boyfriend, I don't think we know yet*

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 1:09 PM. Reason : *they say they want to]

7/15/2008 1:09:05 PM

did you just not use any bc at all? or did you pull a duke and beat a method?

7/15/2008 1:13:24 PM

she was poking holes in his condoms

7/15/2008 1:14:20 PM

I find it funny that earlier this year Kiwi was slamming silchairsm for getting accidentally knocked up by a new boyfriend and then married all in like a month's span.

7/15/2008 6:00:32 PM

oh shit you're right. i remember that.

wow.

7/15/2008 6:01:59 PM

congrats kiwi!

7/15/2008 6:05:52 PM

Keystone Ice FTMFW!!

7/15/2008 6:08:25 PM

that bitch done caught the crazy

7/15/2008 6:15:15 PM

If you really are pregnant, I suggest you take a peek at the thread I made last year when my wife was pregnant.

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=476017

7/15/2008 6:19:45 PM

message_topic.aspx?topic=511877&page=3#11182594

BAM

karma

7/15/2008 6:25:59 PM

haha I remember that. too funny!

7/15/2008 6:28:07 PM

Quote :

"oh married as of like a week ago, but admit PREGGERS before the ring. thatd a pretty thin glass house there silch"

/message_topic.aspx?topic=511877&page=3

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:32 PM. Reason : I am jealous that saps852 beat me to the punch]

7/15/2008 6:31:38 PM

hhaha im not 16 with a hairdresser degree and hoping ill be something some day

Ive known this guy longer than I've dated him but yeah HIGHLARIOUS

no marriage anytime soon kthxu

7/15/2008 6:33:34 PM

People who live in glass houses should not throw stones at other people's glass houses

7/15/2008 6:33:45 PM

Quote :

"You can lose fat, you can't lose mother fucking retarded."

hahahahahaha

Kiwi is apparently "MOTHER FUCKING RETARDED" in her own words

7/15/2008 6:35:16 PM

avoiding bad karma, nm

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:43 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2008 6:38:00 PM

Congrats. Best of luck.

(Its obvious you people with the negative commentary have learned nothing from kiwi's karma inflicted pregnancy)

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:40 PM. Reason : .]

7/15/2008 6:39:57 PM

Quote :

"I find it funny that earlier this year Kiwi was slamming silchairsm for getting accidentally knocked up by a new boyfriend and then married all in like a month's span."

You know she's hoping no one remembers that.

I realized today that yes, I do look down on the majority people who allow an extramarital unplanned pregnancy to occur.

In cases like [user]theduke866[user]'s (and wasn't there another user who is a father, despite pill + condom? nighthawk, maybe?), it's pretty clear no one is at fault there. The only blame you can place on them is for having sex, and that would be unreasonable to do.

I know that not getting knocked up is important enough to me that were I on the pill or patch, we'd still be using a condom. And since that wasn't an option, that's why I did what I had to do to get an IUD - which has the same effective rate as tubal ligature, and unlike the pill and patch, the effectiveness isn't adversely affected by user error.


Basically, it boils down to 'are you willing to do what it takes to not get a surprise baby? No? Then yeah, that's trashy and shows a deplorable lack of responsbility'

Unplanned pregnancies in a stable marriage: not so bad, because you have the standing committment of marriage and a healthy framework for the pregnancy and birth and childhood to occur. You have an incredible source of support in your spouse that you don't have in many other surprise pregnancies.

Unstable marriage? I'd be acting like we aren't married, in terms of making damn sure I don't get pregnant.

And when it comes times for the birds and the bees talk with my kids, despite how sexually open my mate and I are, it will be in a 'when a man and his wife love each other...' framework. It's another instance where I can incorporate long-term planning and personal responsibility.

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:42 PM. Reason : lkjfd]

7/15/2008 6:40:13 PM

Quote :

"hhaha im not 16 with a hairdresser degree and hoping ill be something some day"

Weren't you recently having problems affording rent for an apartment?? Or did I miss something (and I really could have)??

7/15/2008 6:41:11 PM

No, you're not missing something.

She's not the most fiscally responsible person.

7/15/2008 6:43:29 PM

Quote :

"I realized today that yes, I do look down on the majority people who allow an extramarital unplanned pregnancy to occur."

Laugh at a little ? Sure

Look down on? Not so much. I have zero clue as to what makes others happy. Sometimes the best things are surprises (like brett favre not really retiring).

7/15/2008 6:44:05 PM

No, I really do take a dim view of someone who won't ensure their own financial stability (as pointed out before, kids are a major financial drain), and isn't responsible enough to make sure they don't get knocked up at a bad time.

I'm not saying surprise kids are inherently bad.

But really...not taking the precautions to not get unexpectedly pregnant indicates that just maybe you aren't responsible enough to care well for offpspring.

7/15/2008 6:47:32 PM

I guess if you personally knew someone whose parents were 18 when she was born who currently live in a 700,000 home having struggled their entire lives to get through college while raising a child you would feel how i do.

I admit I probably have encountered the one case where things went "right". I'm hoping this will be the only case I encounter (plz dear god dont let me have a daughter).

7/15/2008 6:51:09 PM

I was a case that went right

Also, birth control these days is a lot better than the options available to our parent's generation. It'd be a lot harder 20-25 years ago to make the argument that 'it's not that hard to not get pregnant, folks'

I kid you not that if I had to be on a pill or patch today, and didn't have the IUD available, we'd use condoms nearly every time.

Quote :

"They're not that much of a "financial drain". I've probably spent about $1,000 on diapers, $500 on toys, $0 on milk over 11 months. Grandparents/aunts/uncles/everyone else buys all the shit he needs. I think my health insurance went up $40/month. Big deal."

1) thus far

2) If one is in a situation where one in a situation where one can fund both education and retirement funds from the beginning, there are some significant losses down the road, in interest and what have you.
There are other things when they get older to consider, as well, like perhaps a car for them, braces, school supplies, food for ravenous teenage boys , etc. For some people, minimal costs, relative to their income. For some people, it's a major strain.

when you're someone like Kiwi, who has in the past elected to go on a shopping spree for clothing, and then had to ask a bf to make that month's car payment for you...well, call it a hunch that a kid will end up causing some financial stress, since mom won't even take care of herself.

Note that the tidbit about the car payment came in the form of 'fuck...i knew i wouldn't see that moeny again' from an ex

[Edited on July 15, 2008 at 6:58 PM. Reason : lkjfd]

7/15/2008 6:53:48 PM

They're not that much of a "financial drain". I've probably spent about $1,000 on diapers, $500 on toys, $0 on milk over 11 months. Grandparents/aunts/uncles/everyone else buys all the shit he needs. I think my health insurance went up $40/month. Big deal.

7/15/2008 6:53:58 PM