Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
3 10/14/2008 3:10:33 PM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
DAL gets Roy Williams for a 1st, 3rd and 6th per Adam S.
WOWOWOWOW, they gave up wayyyyyy too much. The Lions do something smart for the first time in a long time. 10/14/2008 4:45:27 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
They're gonna have to start playing with 2 balls in big D.....and have a professional ego stroker on call at all times.
imo its a terrible move, b/c in all likelyhood it's going to take touches away from your best player, barber. 10/14/2008 4:49:16 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
If they gave up ^ those picks, then wow that is horrible Jerry.
Why not trade for another CB since they are all hurt or injured? The offense will be fine. 10/14/2008 4:55:21 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
Jerry Jones is a moron, and is the main reason that team hasn't won a playoff game since 1996 10/14/2008 4:55:34 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
The Lions got 3 draft picks? For that braggart who can't stay healthy and only had 1 good year?
That might be their first good move in 7+ years. I guess the Matt Millen era is truly over. 10/14/2008 5:10:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
now they have 2 roy williams' 10/14/2008 5:15:27 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Yeah right. They have the most talented team in the NFL.
How do you think they got that way, pure luck?
^SS Roy is still hurt, as is Terrence Newman and suspended Adam Jones. 3/4 Secondary starters hurt is NCSU like.
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 5:17 PM. Reason : damn] 10/14/2008 5:16:10 PM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
they got a 7th back from the lions but next year they only have their 2nd, 5th, and 7th round picks
they gave up the 4th for Pacman, lol 10/14/2008 5:17:08 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah right. They have the most talented team in the NFL. " |
Some would argue Clemson had the most talent in NCAA this year, we see where they are at. Its about chemistry and team unity more than simply talent... Jones contributes every year in making sure that these two concepts arent apparent on his teams and are the reasons they collapse at the end of every season and havent won a playoff game since 199610/14/2008 5:20:01 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^^That at the time was a good deal. Pacman was a proven NFL player....a 4th round pick is iffy at best.
^Collapse? They went 13-3 last year and lost a close game to the Super Bowl Champs who were hot like no other team ever. Hardly a collapse. 10/14/2008 5:23:22 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Tony Romo = Most over rated player in the NFL. 10/14/2008 5:24:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "SS Roy is still hurt" |
i know but they'll still have 2 roy williams' on their roster...now they need to make trades with the colts, chiefs, panthers and giants to get the two (ant)hony gonzalez' and steve smiths
given what they had on paper, what they had done in the regular season etc, yes, definitely collapse
Romo isn't clutch and Wade Phillips is a complete moron]10/14/2008 5:26:05 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
^^Based exactly on what? Or are you just a Cowboys hater like everyone else?
He has started for about 1 full season and parts of two and is like 23-9 as a starter.
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 5:27 PM. Reason : How do ppl hate Romo seriously?] 10/14/2008 5:26:45 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
^^^lol alongside priv apparently lol.... i guess it shows that the players do not get to watch the games... too bad rivers smoked that pats secondary and romo had better numbers than peyton last year.
^it was some sports illustrated thing they asked the players and i hate the cowboys, but i like romo, he is a great story, just wished he was on another team
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 5:29 PM. Reason : ] 10/14/2008 5:26:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How do ppl hate Romo seriously?" |
he plays for the Dallas Cowboys
i dont mind him as a person, but when somebody puts on one of those uniforms they become like UNC players to me
and i think the overrated argument clearly stems from his 0-2 playoff record
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 5:30 PM. Reason : .]10/14/2008 5:29:18 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i dont mind him as a person, but when somebody puts on one of those uniforms they become like UNC players to me " |
exactly.... kinda like hansborough
haha, that was a joke10/14/2008 5:30:41 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Romo puts up great numbers, but he has some flaws in his game:
- He is careless with the football, particularly in the clutch. - Until proven otherwise, he's a choker. He's stuck with that label until he wins a playoff game. - Each of his first 2 seasons he has faded badly down the stretch. Just look at his QB rating in December. Without looking it up... it's bad. - Part of his production can be attributed to the "TO Effect". TO made McNabb look like an MVP, and made Garcia into a pro-bowler. You have to wonder if Romo could do what he does without the 2nd best receiver in the game.
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 5:34 PM. Reason : 2] 10/14/2008 5:32:08 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
we made garcia look like a hall of famer too this week lol 10/14/2008 5:35:29 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
How come Drew Bledsoe couldn't cut it with T.O.?
Witten has become the best TE too thanks to Romo.
You can view it both ways. 10/14/2008 5:35:55 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
witten is a stud.... love everything about his game, except for the fact he is a cowboy, which blows... maybe he will leave there sometime
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 5:37 PM. Reason : ^qb doesnt make you a blocker or be able to get open downfield] 10/14/2008 5:36:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
How come T.O. isn't satisfied with 20 targets a game? Thats a T.O. problem...btw he is gonna fuck your whole franchise up...he has done it everywhere he's been 10/14/2008 5:37:43 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
so who do the lions get in return for Roy Williams
nevermind found it
Quote : | "The Cowboys on Tuesday traded a first-round pick in 2009, plus a third- and sixth-rounder that year for Williams and a seventh-round pick in '09. " |
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 5:45 PM. Reason : williams and 7th rounder for the others]10/14/2008 5:42:21 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
1st, 3rd, 6th and 7th round draft picks.
Steal for the Lions. The 'Boys are mortgaging their future for a shot at the title right now. 10/14/2008 5:43:34 PM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The 'Boys are mortgaging their future for a shot at the title right now." |
NOT SO FAST MY FRIEND
due to 08 draft day trades the Cowboys have an extra 3, 4, and 6th rounder in 09
as part of the PacMan trade they keep a 6 that would have gone to Tenn had he not gotten suspended they get Tenn 5 since he got suspended
as part of Roy Williams2 trade they lose 1,3,6 get 7
so they still have 2,3,4,4,5,5,6,7,7
Cowboys could trade back into Round 1 or 2 if need be. The could also keep the lower cheaper picks to fortify bottom of roster or trade towards 2010 picks. I guarantee all 9 picks that they have won't make the team.
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 6:04 PM. Reason : .]10/14/2008 5:48:45 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Reverse Hershel Walker trade. 10/14/2008 6:05:41 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
herschel walker was like 2 players though
at least mentally 10/14/2008 6:11:20 PM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
the Cowboys may get 2 compensation picks for losing Julius Jones and Jaques Reeves in Free Agency
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 6:33 PM. Reason : .] 10/14/2008 6:17:38 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
So if the Cowboys have two players named Roy Williams how would they solve the naming on their jerseys?
[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 11:16 PM. Reason : ] 10/14/2008 11:15:43 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
[Loudmouth Williams] & [Can't Cover Williams]
Problem solved. 10/14/2008 11:21:39 PM |
DM Veteran 393 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So if the Cowboys have two players named Roy Williams how would they solve the naming on their jerseys?" |
One plays offense and the other plays defense. There's no need to do anything with the jerseys.10/15/2008 11:39:39 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pacman was a proven NFL player" |
He had some nice returns and a few interceptions in Tennessee, but the only thing he's really proven is that he has no self control and doesn't care about the rare opportunity he has with his physical talents to play in the NFL10/15/2008 11:43:51 AM |
MikeHancho All American 603 Posts user info edit post |
Romo hurt and the 'boys are falling apart
satan is pissed
10/15/2008 11:56:48 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Roy E. Roy L. 10/16/2008 1:09:47 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
Jerry Jones and Al Davis
separated at birth 10/16/2008 1:16:17 AM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
I don't understand you people's logic who say Jerry is dumb for doing this. In the scope the the trade, Dallas is really only loosing a 1st round pick. With the comp picks and picks from the Titans. And now, with a stable of solid receivers, I'm sure a number of teams would trade a higher pick for Miles Austin or Patrick Creighton.
9 picks in next years draft is still very solid.
[Edited on October 16, 2008 at 12:51 PM. Reason : needed a comma] 10/16/2008 12:51:17 PM |
ItsNme Suspended 731 Posts user info edit post |
Easily the best receiving corps in football
WR- T.O. WR- Roy Williams TE- Jason Witten 10/16/2008 1:12:18 PM |
Kev4Pack All American 25272 Posts user info edit post |
Better get w/ the program; down 21-7 to the Rams 10/19/2008 1:40:50 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
WOW what an embarrassment. Other than Barber, I don't think a single person came to play. 10/19/2008 7:03:16 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Tony Romo = Most over rated player in the NFL." |
Okay now please post here. They lose Romo and get waxed by one of the 5 worst teams in the NFL.10/20/2008 3:09:31 PM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
dont say b/c romo didnt play was the reason that they sucked
and from what i saw, the oline had another lackluster performance, their defensive backfield is weak and inexperienced, and they straight gave up.
[Edited on October 20, 2008 at 3:13 PM. Reason : e] 10/20/2008 3:11:45 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
All 4 starters are out in the secondary....that is reason #1 they sucked.
But look at the offense minus Romo. 10/20/2008 3:15:10 PM |
NoidRoid All American 7642 Posts user info edit post |
Guess you're right, everybody* on that team is over rated - not just Romo
*- except DeMarcus Ware 10/20/2008 3:19:26 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
they are imploding because they insist on being a pass first offense. if they learn to create push with their o-line, Barber & company can raise hell. also, if they become a run first offense, they can allow their defense more rest. 10/20/2008 3:56:38 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
SS Roy Williams out for the season ouch 10/20/2008 4:15:27 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
It is odd because the O-Line was really good last year and up until the Arizona game.
Leonard Davis and Flozell Adams are two of the best. Gurode isn't bad and Columbo holds his own.... 10/20/2008 5:18:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
13 pro bowl egos + a coach who no players respect because he is a nice guy and not a disciplinarian = FAIL 10/20/2008 5:24:45 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
I can somewhat agree with that....
Phillips is likely to be done after this season the way things are going.
I for one am excited to see what Jason Garrett can do. 10/20/2008 9:38:45 PM |
ke2urhoe48 Veteran 243 Posts user info edit post |
Bump for the defensive effort this week against Tampa. 10/28/2008 12:00:28 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Some would argue Clemson had the most talent in NCAA this year" |
no... no they wouldnt10/28/2008 12:17:53 AM |