lol i wish i could take one of his classes to see what its like

10/10/2008 5:30:34 PM

OMFGLOL!

Obama on Ayers: 'I assumed he had been rehabilitated'
October 10, 2008 (7 hours ago)

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2008/10/obama_on_ayers_i_assumed_he_ha.html

Ayers Controversy First Smoldered, Now Flares Bright
Published Online: October 10, 2008 (42 minutes ago)

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2008/10/15/08ayers_ep.h28.html

Does Obama Still Think Ayers Has Been 'Rehabilitated'? No, Says his Campaign
October 10, 2008 1:55 PM

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/does-obama-stil.html

10/10/2008 5:43:53 PM

ahhh... desperation.

10/10/2008 5:46:10 PM

not the right thread

[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 5:48 PM. Reason : .]

10/10/2008 5:47:46 PM

Keating Five

10/10/2008 5:49:59 PM

Jena 6

10/10/2008 5:50:18 PM

Chicago Seven

10/10/2008 5:54:26 PM

3rd Presidential Deb8

10/10/2008 5:55:47 PM

FYI: My post above was for. . .

drunknloaded
ayers=professor

10/10/2008 6:14:08 PM

hooksaw flips the fuck out about left-wingers, news at 11.

Seriously, how do you think this Ayers character is going to influence Obama? Do you legitimately think he's going to get into office and start trying to build communism or shut down conservative magazine offices or something?

And is the McCain campaign bringing up something that people have been discussing for months now anything other than a sign of desperation? Cause, you know, I swear I heard Sean Hannity flipping out about this in March or so. It's not like it's some new thing. What's new now is that the GOP has successfully trapped the media into talking about it more and more, for fear that if they don't they'll get tarred as "OH NO THE LIBERAL MEDIA".

You're a year too late, if it didn't work for the Clintons, it won't work for you.


[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 6:45 PM. Reason : and when is hooksaw going to turn this into another "OH NO THE LIBERALS IN ACADEMIA" thread?]

10/10/2008 6:40:02 PM

This is getting pathetic, GOP.

But by all means, keep talking about issues that absolutely no one cares about.

10/10/2008 6:52:22 PM

yep no one cares about voter fraud, its meaningless, except in 2000 in florida and in 2004 in ohio

we should spend more time on important things that everyone cares about, like how old mccain is!

10/10/2008 6:56:30 PM

Quote :

"yep no one cares about 2000 & 2004 voter fraud, its meaningless, except in 2008"

[Edited on October 10, 2008 at 7:04 PM. Reason : ]

10/10/2008 7:04:16 PM

That does it guys, I'm voting GOP now b/c some group that has left-leaning sympathies did some shady shit. This is obviously a sign of what Barack Obama will do for this country since he too worked in communities and probably did similar things around the same time he was hating whitey and blowing up buildings and joining the Nation of Islam and disgracing Our white women.

10/10/2008 7:11:48 PM

(snicker)

10/10/2008 8:06:40 PM

i'm just gonna start saying yall are sexist or racist against whites when you say anything bad about mccain or palin...you know, i'll stoop down to your typical level

10/10/2008 8:14:56 PM

shut up, honky

10/10/2008 8:16:09 PM

one of the reasons i'm voting for barack obama is cause hes black

10/10/2008 8:16:21 PM

no dnl its because you hate white people and women you fucking racist sexist swine

10/10/2008 8:17:19 PM

DNL likes to get crunk with black folks.

even better, if they're gay. he can like totally dig the vibe, maaaan.

but [no homo], of course.

10/10/2008 8:19:41 PM

i thought you were going to say dnl "has plenty of white friends" which is what a racist would say, like you 2 and all obama supporters mccain haters

10/10/2008 8:20:32 PM

go home, cracker, before we beat your honky ass. because we're all just full of hate towards you non-terrorists.

10/10/2008 8:47:45 PM

i'd love to see the backlash if i flipped that around towards blacks

10/10/2008 8:52:18 PM

go ahead and try...i'm trying to picture you saying that to a negro and i cant really figure out how it'd go

10/10/2008 8:58:05 PM

a NEGRO? wtf did you just say???!!

10/10/2008 9:02:16 PM

Quote :

"An Ohio teenager says he was given cash and cigarettes by activists with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) for registering to vote 72 times. “Sometimes they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they’ll give me a dollar to sign up,” 19-year-old Freddie Johnson of Cleveland told the New York Post. “The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered … They say, ‘Can you just sign up again.’” "

Quote :

"Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn't care nothing about -- Louis Farrakhan"

10/10/2008 10:11:46 PM

Its greatest legislative accomplishment is the National Voter Registration Act of 1993, commonly known as Motor Voter. But in his book Stealing Elections (2004), Wall Street Journal columnist John Fund argues that the law leads to voter fraud:

“Perhaps no piece of legislation in the last generation better captures the ‘incentivizing’ of fraud… than the 1993 National Voter Registration Act…Examiners were under orders not to ask anyone for identification or proof of citizenship. States also had to permit mail-in voter registrations, which allowed anyone to register without any personal contact with a registrar or election official. Finally, states were limited in pruning ‘dead wood’ - people who had died, moved or been convicted of crimes - from their rolls. … Since its implementation, Motor Voter has worked in one sense: it has fueled an explosion of phantom voters.”

In 1995, Obama sued on behalf of ACORN for the implementation of Motor Voter laws in Illinois and won. That secured Obama an invitation to train ACORN staff. Obama later returned the favor when, as a member of the Woods Fund board, he approved frequent grants to ACORN. In a 2007 address to its leaders (who subsequently endorsed his presidential bid), Obama praised ACORN’s mission:

“I come out of a grassroots organizing background. That’s what I did for three and a half years before I went to law school. That’s the reason I moved to Chicago-to organize. So this is something that I know personally, the work you do, the importance of it. I’ve been fighting alongside of ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work.”


"Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board" with 57, 435 rejected for faulty information. "Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election."




I dont know how anyone can defend this group. And yet another Obama lie as he tries to distance himself from it... and the 800k he gave to the group.

Bridget, it IS a cause for concern. Esp with new laws that can use temp residence in different counties and absentee ballots, you COULD vote more than once.

10/11/2008 9:06:43 AM

Is there any evidence that ACORN's trying to get folks to vote more than once? Registering a single dude fifteen times shouldn't accomplish anything beyond filling quota and annoying the county clerk.

10/11/2008 11:06:26 AM

i think its the registering of people that do not exist that is more of a concern


and they are doing this, and have done this

10/11/2008 3:56:10 PM

Quote :

"I dont know how anyone can defend this group. "

Obama has condemned their actions.

Quote :

"And yet another Obama lie"

He hasn't lied about anything involving this.

Quote :

"The Obama campaign described the accusations as a spurious effort to tie Mr. Obama to potentially fraudulent voter registrations. “Barack Obama strongly condemns voter registration fraud or any other breach of election law by any party or group,” Ben LaBolt, a campaign spokesman, said in a statement. "

You make it out like Obama endorsed or encouraged voter registration fraud, which is bullshit. Of course he is distancing himself from this, it's irrelevant guilt-by-association crap.

[Edited on October 11, 2008 at 5:12 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2008 5:09:53 PM

You do realize he did give this group over 800k.

10/11/2008 9:14:03 PM

Quote :

"Bridget, it IS a cause for concern. Esp with new laws that can use temp residence in different counties and absentee ballots, you COULD vote more than once. "

The fraudulent registrations ARE cause for concern, I don't see what they have to do with Obama. People registering to vote is a good thing, people faking registrations is a bad thing. The 2 ideas are not related to each other.

Quote :

"ACORN directors Bertha Lewis and Steve Kest weighed in Thursday to defend the organization’s registration efforts, circulating a memo that touted “the largest, most successful nonpartisan voter registration drive in history” and took issue with assertions that the organization was in legal trouble. "

- http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14492_Page2.html

And there has yet to be a shred of evidence about a systemic problem with ACORN. There are numerous issues with our election process, but it's absurd and reeks of partisan hackery to try and pin them to Obama.

[Edited on October 11, 2008 at 9:23 PM. Reason : ]

10/11/2008 9:18:19 PM

yeah. I don't see how Obama's campaign hiring them and paying them almost a million fucking dollars links them to Obama. I don't see how Obama working as a lawyer for them links them to Obama. I don't see how Obama funneling grants to them links them to Obama.

seriously, are you that fucking blinded by your love of this man?

10/11/2008 10:22:24 PM

One of my bosses seemed more partisan in the office today.

10/11/2008 10:26:48 PM

^^ Are your reading skills that bad?

I never said he wasn't "linked" to them, he obviously has worked with them.

What I said was there is no apparent systemic problem with them, and it's absurd to think Obama, McCain, or anyone else (except maybe Karl Rove) wants anything to do with voter fraud.

So some ACORN employees forged some registrations to meet a quota, what exactly does that have to do with Obama?

I fully encourage McCain and his ilk to pursue this, but it just gives the Obama campaign more ammo to use in pointing out how out of touch he is.

10/11/2008 10:45:15 PM

haha. Obama HIRES THEM and you say he doesn't "want voter fraud." Well, he sure as fuck is encouraging it, wouldn't you think, by hiring the most egregiously guilty groups in order to register voters

10/11/2008 11:03:28 PM

^

Quote :

"ACORN directors Bertha Lewis and Steve Kest weighed in Thursday to defend the organization’s registration efforts, circulating a memo that touted “the largest, most successful nonpartisan voter registration drive in history” and took issue with assertions that the organization was in legal trouble. “No charges have ever been brought against ACORN itself. Convictions against individual former ACORN workers have been accomplished with our full cooperation,” the memo read. "

- http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14492_Page2.html

ACORN is one of the biggest proponents of legitimate voter registration, which is why a politician interested in democracy would hire them.

I wonder why do Conservatives hate democracy?

10/11/2008 11:07:04 PM

riiiiiiight. so that's why 17 states are currently investigating them

I especially like the bit about the "non-partisan" organization. they are about as "non-partisan" as the NRA

[Edited on October 11, 2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ]

10/11/2008 11:08:16 PM

There's nothing wrong with investigations either.

That still has nothing do with Obama.

Do you think Obama wants or likes illegitimate voter registrations?

10/11/2008 11:09:01 PM

right. again, Obama HIRES THEM. They go out and DO WHAT HE ASKED THEM TO DO, FRAUDULENTLY, and that has nothing to do w/ Obama. Sure, Obama probably didn't say "hey, go out and commit fraud, k?" but he still enabled them to do so. So, yes, it IS linked to Obama.

Or are you suggesting that giving them a cool million didn't help the organization at all?

10/11/2008 11:11:33 PM

Quote :

"they are about as "non-partisan" as the NRA"

That's not a bad way to put it.

10/11/2008 11:13:52 PM

holy shit, we agree on something

10/11/2008 11:14:54 PM

Both organizations are officially non-partisan but effectively become so because of the issues they support.

10/11/2008 11:20:10 PM

Quote :

" Obama probably didn't say "hey, go out and commit fraud, k?""

exactly, and likely most other people in ACORN didn't say this either.

10/11/2008 11:23:53 PM

7-YR.-OLD GETS AN ACORN VOTE

Quote :

"Meanwhile, state authorities in New Mexico, Indiana, Missouri, Connecticut, Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Nevada have launched probes of bogus voter registration forms filed by ACORN. Roberta Casteel, a nurse, is one of several dozen Nevada voters caught in the web of fake ACORN registrations. Casteel, a registered voter since 1991, was shocked to receive a letter rejecting a voter application she didn't know she'd made. Authorities said they'd received two voter applications in her name: one as a Democrat and one as an independent. Both cards had her address, date of birth and Social Security number, and were submitted by ACORN workers. Neither signature matched her original one on file. A former ACORN worker in Pennsylvania has already been charged with 17 counts of identity theft and forgery. Other states are sifting through cartons of suspicious forms."

http://tinyurl.com/4qcuef

10/13/2008 2:05:18 AM

What exactly is "an ACORN vote"?

10/13/2008 2:11:42 AM

^ Likely a play on words. But way to go after the style of yet another news report about ACORN's voter registration fraud and totally skip the substance. GG.

10/13/2008 2:53:17 AM

It lacks any relevant substance that hasn't already been addressed in this thread.

10/13/2008 2:56:26 AM

^ Um. . .can you show me the post prior to mine in which this "7-YR.-OLD GETS AN ACORN VOTE" appears? Otherwise, it is symbolically substantive, if nothing else.

FTR, you simply declaring that the content of a post "lacks any relevant substance" does not make it so.

10/13/2008 3:13:15 AM

ooh roll eyes are back.

I have missed those.

[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 3:21 AM. Reason : ]

10/13/2008 3:21:03 AM