So am I the only one who finds the potential Oregon State Penn State rematch hilarious?

Will USC end up in another BCS bowl?

11/24/2008 1:50:35 PM

If USC defeats Notre Dame (6-5) and UCLA (4-6), then they will definitely play in a BCS bowl

- It is still possible for them to end up #1 or #2 and play for a national title

- If the Beavers go to the Rose Bowl, USC will likely end up in the Fiesta vs. Texas or Oklahoma

11/24/2008 2:02:50 PM

I think it's pretty obvious that the winner of the SEC will be in the championship game.

11/24/2008 2:05:06 PM

unless the winner of that game loses this coming week

11/24/2008 2:30:02 PM

If the BCS bowls went the way I wanted them to, The best matchups would be

BCS Championship- USC vs. Florida

Rose Bowl- Texas vs Penn State

Orange Bowl - Florida State vs West Virginia

Sugar Bowl - Oklahoma vs Alabama

Fiesta Bowl - Utah vs. Ohio State


I really wish Utah wasn't in there and we could subsitute someone better but you couldn't add a third Big 12 team (Texas Tech, Oklahoma State), you cant add a third SEC team (Georgia) and you cant even add a third Big 10 team (Michigan State)

11/25/2008 9:21:06 AM

Texas ahead of OU in AP but OU ahead by one point in the USA Today

11/30/2008 3:52:58 PM

While I agree OU looks to be a top 2 team right now, Texas pretty much got shafted

11/30/2008 4:37:41 PM

Texas wins against OU head-to-head but gets left out of the big12 championship....

i'd be ticked if i was a texas fan, oh well

11/30/2008 4:38:34 PM

Texas lost to TT(although on a last second play) but Oklahoma destroyed them.

11/30/2008 4:42:45 PM

^ if you know ANYTHING about college football, you know that statement means nothing.

11/30/2008 4:48:17 PM

I bet Texas wishes that they had not tried to man up Crab.

11/30/2008 4:53:54 PM

Reading a Texas message board its funny that oklahoma is now turning the head to head argument around on them saying that texas tech should get the other big 12 BCS berth obviously since they beat Texas head to head

11/30/2008 4:58:26 PM

I think Oklahoma is playing better right now, but I'd put texas ahead based on a neutral field win. I'm so tired of people using TT to compare OU and UT. Head to head is much more important than common opponents.

11/30/2008 5:04:26 PM

head-to-head means about as much as a common opponent. any team can be beaten on a given day.

11/30/2008 5:07:43 PM

Do people honestly not understand how a three way tie break occurs. This head to head stuff doesn't matter with three teams, head to head implies two, why can't Texas fans understand this? Texas also had a mighty tough time beating Ok. State at home this year whereas OU and TT layed a licking on them, OU did it in Stillwater. BTW, when's the last time OU hasn't put up 50 or more. I bet that safety from Texas who dropped that sure INT is feeling pretty good about things.

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"I'm so tired of people using TT to compare OU and UT. Head to head is much more important than common opponents."

You do realize it's a three way tie, head-to-head implies two teams, two people, or two objects. TT sure is getting the shaft. I feel like I'm watching 3 people rochambeau and watching one explain why his paper beating rock is better than the other guy's scissors beating his paper...3 way ties are not fun for anyone, but it's the best the BCS can do TODAY. Common opponents is certainly of high relevance in a 3 way tie, which is exactly what we've got here. Complete hypothetical here, but if OU and texas played again twice, once in Norman, once in Austin, OU would wax them in Norman and I think it's too close of a call for the game in Austin, just an opinion there though.

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 5:24 PM. Reason : .]

11/30/2008 5:12:33 PM

true. And going by BCS rankings is just lame.

hell, it'd be a cluserfuck in the ACC

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"Two-Team Tie 1. Head-to-head competition between the two tied teams 2. Records of the tied teams within the division. 3. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall record.(divisional) Conference record and proceeding though the division. Multiple ties within the division broken from first to last. 4. Overall record versus all common non-divisional opponents. 5. Combined record vs. all non-divisional teams. 6. Record versus common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish (divisional and non-divisional) and proceeding through other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within their division. 7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the end of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game. 8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw. Three (or More) Team Tie (Once tie has been reduced to two teams, the two-team tiebreaker format is used) 1. Combined head-to-head record among the tied teams 2. Records of the tied teams within the division. 3. Head-to-head competition vs. the team within the division with the best overall (divisional or conference) record, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken first to last. 4. Overall record for non-divisional teams. 5. Combined record versus all common non-divisional teams. 6. Record versus common non-divisional with the best overall Conference (divisional) and non-divisional record and proceeding through the other common non-divisional teams based on their order of finish within the division. 7. The tied team with the highest ranking in the Bowl Championship Series Standings following the conclusion of regular season games shall be the divisional representative in the ACC Championship Game, unless the second of the tied teams is ranked within five-or-fewer places of the highest ranked tied team. In this case, the head-to-head results of the top two ranked tied teams shall determine the representative in the ACC Championship Game. 8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw."

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 5:27 PM. Reason : ]

11/30/2008 5:21:31 PM

so there is still a possibility of an OU vs. Texas rematch for the national championship?

Florida is way behind in points to Texas, and looks like they may need to dominate Alabama in order to jump them Texas the computer's eyes.

11/30/2008 5:24:50 PM

I'm gonna have to ask you to go ahead and check that again. The Gators play in the SEC. The SEC, man. No way the computers wouldn't put a team in the greatest conference in athletics history with the same amount of losses as a team in a less superior conference.

I think any SEC team with less than 3 losses should automatically qualify for the NFL in the following season personally...

11/30/2008 5:28:09 PM

I think its hilarious that Texas is still mathematically viable for the NC game

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 5:31 PM. Reason : dur]

11/30/2008 5:31:40 PM

If Florida beats Alabama the polls will put them at #1 so I dont see any way that the SEC winner doesnt get in. The only mystery will occur if Missouri beats Oklahoma in which case you are gonna have a whole lot of one loss teams saying they should be in that game.

12/1/2008 9:52:44 AM

NO you are not.

Its simple now.

SEC Champion vs. Oklahoma (if they win on saturday) or Texas

12/1/2008 10:49:15 AM

http://tinyurl.com/5pacg3

12/1/2008 5:03:53 PM

what does the nfl have to do w/ the bcs?

12/1/2008 5:06:39 PM

whoosh!

12/1/2008 5:30:19 PM

I hope to hell Ohio State doesn't go to a BCS bowl. They absolutely do not deserve to be in one.

12/1/2008 6:04:43 PM

LIKE IT OR NOT

Its going to be:

BCS National Championship:Florida vs. Oklahoma

Rose Bowl: USC vs. Penn. State

Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. Utah

Fiesta Bowl: Ohio State vs. Texas

Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech vs. Cincinnati

12/2/2008 11:32:51 AM

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"LIKE IT OR NOT Its going to be: BCS National Championship:Florida vs. Oklahoma Rose Bowl: USC vs. Penn. State Sugar Bowl: Alabama vs. Utah Fiesta Bowl: Ohio State vs. Texas Orange Bowl: Virginia Tech vs. Cincinnati"

Perhaps - but it would be nice to see Bama vs Texas, Ohio St vs Va Tech, and Cinci vs Utah instead..


...or better yet, throw in two more team slots with potentially two play in bids, and make it a tourney, and you've got something the everyone will tune in for



[Edited on December 2, 2008 at 11:40 AM. Reason : ]

12/2/2008 11:39:20 AM

^ I could not agree with you more

-Lets at least make these BCS games as exciting as possible if we are not going to have playoffs



send USC to Fiesta to play texas

bama vs ohio state in sugar

va tech vs penn state in rose

cinn vs utah in orange

12/2/2008 12:01:09 PM

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"I hope to hell Ohio State doesn't go to a BCS bowl. They absolutely do not deserve to be in one."

they already qualified and will be playing in a BCS game this year, get over it

12/2/2008 1:22:28 PM

^^ haha a non-Pac-10/Big 10 Rose Bowl. *tear*

12/2/2008 1:48:17 PM

as long as cincy plays utah
and va tech ohio state im fine

that leaves at least 3 solid games with 6 deserving teams left to have to play each other and let the excitement roll

12/2/2008 1:50:46 PM

Texas Tech would probably beat 7 of the 10 BCS teams this year

12/3/2008 8:50:33 AM

Agreed they should definitlely get in over Ohio State, I understand the reasoning behind no 3 schools from one conference for money purposes and all but jesus if you arent gonna give us a playoff at least give us the best teams in the BCS bowls.

12/3/2008 10:09:13 AM

how the hell wants to see the fuckeyes get their asses kicked by another SEC team?

12/3/2008 10:10:50 AM

Could NC State right now beat Utah or Cinn?

12/3/2008 11:09:12 AM

It's asinine that a 2-loss OSU gets in over any undefeated team.

12/3/2008 8:31:20 PM

OSU brings the money though. Thats the same logic we are using to justify NC State going to a bowl over other teams that don't travel as well.

Oklahoma has choked in more bowl games than OSU the past few years... why do they get a free pass?

12/3/2008 9:27:29 PM

I dont consider the Boise State/oklahoma fiesta bowl a choke by oklahoma

12/4/2008 9:11:04 AM

Well they have only one 3 point win in the past 5 bowl games appearances. 2 out of the past 5 bowl games, they got their asses handed to them.

Fiesta Bowl 2008/01/02 Oklahoma 28 - West Virginia 48 - L - CHOKE
Fiesta Bowl 2007/01/01 Oklahoma 42 - Boise St 43 - L
Holiday Bowl 2005/12/29 Oklahoma 17 - Oregon 14 - W
Orange Bowl 2005/01/04 Oklahoma 19 - USC 55 - L - CHOKE
Sugar Bowl 2004/01/04 Oklahoma 14 - LSU 21 - L

12/4/2008 9:46:21 PM

I wouldnt consider the 05 game vs USC a choke either.

They played the BEST USC team in USC history

12/5/2008 9:21:46 AM

I'm sorry but anyone who says Florida is #1 over oklahoma tomorrow in the polls didnt watch any of the games the past 5 weeks or so. Oklahoma has by far pushed to the head of the pack, arguably the best offense ever in college football history. Florida may have a tad better defense but that is far outweighed by oklahomas offense.

12/6/2008 9:52:25 PM

http://bcsguru.com/

Looks like the final game of the year tonight between Cincy and Hawaii may actually make a difference in the final BCS standings depending on exactly what the pollsters do.

12/6/2008 10:14:02 PM

Since head to head obviously doesn't matter with Oklahoma, why should it with Alabama. They lost to a better team then Florida did.

So if we are just going to ignore head to head it should be...

Alabama and Oklahoma

But if head to head is important (which it should be)

Texas and Florida

I want Texas and Florida so I can root for somebody. I don't think I can root for Florida or Oklahoma. Looks like I am out of luck though.

12/6/2008 10:15:04 PM

Oklahoma is in pending some massive meltdown, it comes down to Texas and Florida for the last spot. Florida has the worse loss of the 2 and Texas has the best win (over what should be a #1 oklahoma). My guess is that to make sure florida gets in you are gonna see many voters who voted texas 2 or 3 last week drop them to 6 or 7 simply to make sure we get the florida oklahoma game, kinda shitty for texas but thats what happens when you let people make decisions on this stuff rather than playing it on the field.

12/6/2008 10:17:36 PM

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"Oklahoma has by far pushed to the head of the pack, arguably the best offense ever in college football history. Florida may have a tad better defense but that is far outweighed by oklahomas offense"

tad better defense? Florida has a far superior defense and a comparable offense.

12/6/2008 10:21:13 PM

superior defense at the beginning of the season, the OU defense has looked much better at the end of the year here. Floridas offense has looked stoppable at times, Oklahoma has looked completely unstoppable pretty much the entire season. Id love to see the OU offense go up against the USC defense now that would be interesting to watch.

12/6/2008 10:24:30 PM

So the BCS is going to pit the two best teams against each other...which happens most of the time. It's not THAT flawed of a system.

12/6/2008 10:42:47 PM

Im pretty sure the number of years it has been under heavy scrutiny is much greater than the years it got it right. It really only gets it right when things just happen to work out really nice. This year it may get it "right" but the problem is every year there are several teams that have a pretty valid argument who get left out.

12/6/2008 10:46:20 PM

Cannot get in unless you win your conference. precedent: Michigan vs. Florida a few years ago. Therefore, Texas is out.

12/6/2008 10:49:03 PM

Bad news, its happened before so throw that argument out the window.

12/6/2008 10:54:19 PM