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chembob
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11/5/2008 6:07:04 PM

fleetwud
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3.02

USSA #1

11/5/2008 6:07:07 PM

IMStoned420
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The university was freely expressing its desire to not look like we're all a bunch of racist assholes who look for any reason to get away with hate speech.

11/5/2008 6:16:13 PM

Mulva
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NCSU doesn't determine its own beliefs, black people do

11/5/2008 6:16:49 PM

IMStoned420
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I'd like to believe that NCSU's beliefs are guided by a basic sense of decency towards human beings.

11/5/2008 6:20:45 PM

ben94gt
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if they didnt paint over this quickly you can bet your ass it WOULD have appeared in the form of a video on the WRAL 5pm news, better they got it before wral got out there.

11/5/2008 7:24:04 PM

Jader
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never really thought that tunnel was really about free expression, just a way to try and control unwanted graffiti around campus

11/5/2008 7:28:23 PM

BigEgo
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After the KKK incident, SGA has decided that Hate Speech will not be protected on campus.

11/5/2008 7:51:07 PM

BadPokerPlyr
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there has to be a million layers of paint on that thing

11/5/2008 7:51:36 PM

MaximaDrvr

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There is enough paint on the walls to staple flyers to it.

11/5/2008 8:02:17 PM

Spontaneous
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Have they ever formally cleaned it down to its original form?

Also, technically it's the Free Expression Tunnel. The Free Expression Wall was the bullshit makeshift particle board they had in 05-06.

11/5/2008 8:04:03 PM

MaximaDrvr

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The whole tunnel was redone last year and was bare brick. In my 7 years here, I have only seen the university scrape the walls 2 times.

11/5/2008 8:06:36 PM

chembob
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^yea, right after it reopened

that's when i found the plaque and painted it gold. yup, that's my work in that pic.

11/5/2008 8:06:48 PM

Spontaneous
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Cool beans.

11/5/2008 8:06:58 PM

smc
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When they cleaned it and painted it back white, they should have greased the walls. Paint wouldn't stick, and they could just hose it down occasionally.

11/5/2008 8:21:57 PM

jwb9984
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The university was freely expressing its desire to not look like we're all a bunch of racist assholes who look for any reason to get away with hate speech.

11/5/2008 10:31:45 PM

wdprice3
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Quote :
"It started with N and ended with socialism"

11/5/2008 10:32:17 PM

NCSUdude181
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between sports and now things like this, i am utterly embarrassed to attend this university.

11/5/2008 10:40:48 PM

Thecycle23
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"How is anybody here upset that they don't allow people to paint "nigger" all over the free expression tunnel?

Seriously.

I'd rather not be continually embarrassed that I came from NCSU."

11/6/2008 10:14:57 AM

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"How is anybody here upset that they don't allow people to paint "nigger" all over the free expression tunnel?

Seriously.

I'd rather not be continually embarrassed that I came from NCSU."

11/6/2008 10:19:19 AM

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11/6/2008 10:26:45 AM

elkaybie
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David Crabtree talked about it this morning during his news report on 101.5...NCSU police are trying to find out whodunnit apparently

11/6/2008 10:28:33 AM

DeltaBeta
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There's a good use of police time. I understand the University painting over it. It's their wall, they can paint over anytime they want. However, anyone has the right to spray paint whatever words they like on there. Sending the police out to "figure out whodunnit" when it is NOT against the law is just stupid.

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 10:41 AM. Reason : can not can't]

11/6/2008 10:30:16 AM

Walls1441
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if you keep pretending to cover up racism it doesn't solve any problems.

I'm walls1441 and i approved this message.

11/6/2008 10:30:33 AM

BadPokerPlyr
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who fucking cares who did it? i have news for you, this won't be the last incident like this you'll hear about

11/6/2008 10:39:01 AM

IMStoned420
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Yeah, I don't agree with trying to find out who did it. They'll never find out and it's just a waste of time. Way to fight stupidity with more stupidity.

11/6/2008 10:40:38 AM

jethromoore
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"Well, to my view it's not free expression unless you let people put up anything, not just the stuff you agree with."

Quote :
"Maybe ncsu was freely expressing white walls."


Everything that gets painted on those walls does not have the right to stay there. The next person that comes along, even before your paint dries is allowed to paint over it. Would it really be "free expression" if some people were not allowed to paint it, including university employees?

Also if they go hunting down who did this, are they going to start hunting down everyone that says "nigger" or an Obama fried chicken/watermelon/grape drink joke on TWW?

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 10:43 AM. Reason : ]

11/6/2008 10:42:12 AM

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"Have they ever formally cleaned it down to its original form?"


My dad told me one time in the early 80's they sand blasted the tunnel and took off the paint.

11/6/2008 11:40:55 AM

sawahash
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"Dear NC State Families,

It is the practice of the Office of Parents & Families Services to share
important messages from the Chancellor with the families of our
students. Please see the following statement from Chancellor Oblinger.
It responds to recent racist and derogatory statements painted in NC
State's Free Expression Tunnel. I have also provided information to
respond to questions families may have as a result of this incident.

EXCERPT: CHANCELLOR'S STATEMENT IN RESPONSE TO FREE EXPRESSION TUNNEL
INCIDENT
"Today, we celebrate a historic milestone in American politics and
society - the election of our nation’s first African-American president.
Whether we agree or disagree with the president-elect’s political views
is irrelevant to the accomplishment itself.

In a society that values individual achievement against all odds, on a
campus that embraces diversity and the constructive exchange of ideas,
we’ve seen the very symbol of NC State’s dedication to free speech - the
Free Expression Tunnel - suffer the insult of racist and inflammatory
language...

We as a campus community and I as your chancellor - and as a private
citizen - value free speech but will not tolerate hateful speech
designed to incite violence and undermine the safe operation of
campus...
For the complete statement, see:
http://www.ncsu.edu/about-nc-state/chancellor/speeches-and-writings/free-expression/index.php


STUDENT GOVERNMENT RESPONSE
Student Government has also issued a statement reaffirming the student
body's commitment to creating a "positive atmosphere where students feel
welcome and capable of achieving their full potential." They are also
planning a rally for Thursday, November 6 at 12:15 p.m. in the Brickyard
to support that value.
http://students.ncsu.edu/

TECHNICIAN COVERAGE OF CAMPUS REACTIONS TO ELECTIONS:
- According to the Technician, NC State's daily student newspaper,
several hundred celebrated the results in front of the Bell Tower last
night.
- "Campus Reactions mixed following historic elections"
http://www.technicianonline.com/news/reactions_mixed_following_historic_election


CAMPUS SAFETY
I would also like to take this opportunity to remind families of the
general security on campus. The Free Expression Tunnel is under 24-hour
camera surveillance and is frequently patrolled by University Police on
foot. University Police also provides a safety escort service to protect
students, faculty and staff during the hours of darkness on campus.
Student Patrol Officers will provide a walking safety escort to any
location on main campus. Contracted security guards will provide a
driving safety escort to outer areas of campus, including the Vet
School, the Avent Ferry Complex and Centennial Campus.
http://www.ncsu.edu/ncsu/public_safety/Services/SafetyEscort.html

COUNSELING SERVICES
Should your student need any emotional support in response to this
incident or issues in general, the University Counseling Center is
staffed with trained counselors and psychologists who are available for
walk-in and scheduled appointments.
http://www.ncsu.edu/counseling_center/

Updates about this current issue may be found on the University's
website at http://www.ncsu.edu .

Please help us reaffirm the University's value of free speech that is
honest and supportive of NC State's commitment to a welcoming
environment for all. I am pleased to share that many messages of love
and unity have also been painted in the Free Expression Tunnel today.
If you have any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to contact
the Parents' HelpLine at 877-568-5733 or ncsuparents@ncsu.edu .

Thank you.


Jennifer Bell, M.Ed., NCC
Associate Director
Parents & Families Services
Department of Campus Activities
Box 7306, 3114 Talley Student Center
NC State University
jennifer_bell@ncsu.edu
(919) 515-2441
(919) 513-2583 (fax)
877-568-5733 - Parents' HelpLine (toll free)
http://www.ncsu.edu/for_parents
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11/6/2008 11:44:13 AM

Kiwi
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That makes NCSTATE look like the bottom of a shithiole fyi.

Good job ignorant rednecks!!!

11/6/2008 12:12:58 PM

ViolentMAW
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disappointed that someone did it

disappointed that it was covered up

i'm sure some students with some sense would have put something more worthwhile over it eventually

11/6/2008 12:15:20 PM

Arab13
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spit != text

11/6/2008 12:22:29 PM

Snewf
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NCSU eats dicks

11/6/2008 12:25:24 PM

SaabTurbo
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THEY ALSO CHEW UP HACKERS LIKE YOURSELF SON.

11/6/2008 12:26:04 PM

swoakley
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If NCSU didn't paint over it, students would have taken care of it, and it wouldn't have made the news.

11/6/2008 4:03:54 PM

BDubLS1
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http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1284740.html

11/6/2008 4:05:23 PM

BigEgo
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"Secret Service agents searched the residences of the four responsible and determined there was no actual threat to Obama, Barnwell said."

[Edited on November 6, 2008 at 4:08 PM. Reason : f]

11/6/2008 4:08:26 PM

deerpark101
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^OWNED

11/6/2008 4:09:26 PM

CeilingCat
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Over-reaction much???

11/6/2008 4:27:42 PM

Aficionado
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why the hell did they admit to it

11/6/2008 4:54:53 PM

hgtran
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shit like this is one of the reasons why we suck at sports.

11/6/2008 5:02:36 PM

BIGcementpon
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Yeah... having the SS show up knocking on your door might be a big deal.

11/6/2008 5:06:51 PM

Gzusfrk
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http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3913132/

11/6/2008 5:41:12 PM

IMStoned420
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I want names mother fucker.

11/6/2008 5:50:03 PM

MaximaDrvr

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This makes the university look even dumber.
Free expression tunnel censored by university; secret service involved.

11/6/2008 6:24:53 PM

catalyst
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hahaahahahahhahahahhaah Secret Service showed up.

fuckin pwnt, I bet those rednecks shat themselves

11/6/2008 6:25:39 PM

jataylor
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Quote :
"Campus investigators consulted with the Wake County District Attorney's office before dropping the investigation of a potential hat crime, Barnwell said."

oh no!! not a hat crime!!!

11/6/2008 6:37:01 PM

Walls1441
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hate crime my ass..

I'm walls1441 and i approved this message.

11/6/2008 6:39:24 PM

Smath74
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my thing is, if it is the free expression wall, the university has every right to freely express their love of white paint.

11/6/2008 6:40:05 PM

WolfpckGrl17
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"if they didnt paint over this quickly you can bet your ass it WOULD have appeared in the form of a video on the WRAL 5pm news, better they got it before wral got out there."


Too late.

11/6/2008 6:46:02 PM

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