Quinn must not know about subaru's...

i like my wrx as well. it has a slightly odd sound when moving slowly, a whoomp whooomp whooomp quietly and related to the rate of speed, i think something is rubbing somewhere...

also i get a smell of gas when idling sometimes (or in reverse) I think this is a small leak in the exhaust ?

[Edited on December 18, 2008 at 11:34 AM. Reason : ??]

12/18/2008 11:31:34 AM

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"n00bs get on track insurance if its a driving school. you can get away with an accident if you dont screw up too bad. meaning if the instructor can also confirm that you did everything correctly, you'll get covered. but its something like a "1 time deal" ive heard and seen a handful of people who have had it done. but they are strict and will find ways to not cover it. meaning if you go solo during the school and they find out that you got in your accident while driving solo, your SOL-o."

Regardless, I was just pointing out that the guy's excuse was lame. Track insurance for a $9,000 car is less than $300 per year. If that is really a limiting factor then you damn well shouldn't be planning on tracking an M3 with 200k miles.

12/18/2008 12:22:07 PM

02 wrxs are prone to a fuel seepage under the intake, so you might want to check on that.

12/18/2008 5:35:26 PM

^^troo, but not all insurances cover the track. i dont know, its been like 4-5 years since the last time i checked. im sure a lot more have adopted track insurance. heck, last time i checked you had to of had 10+ years of your license and driving (on public roads), then they would consider you.

12/18/2008 5:50:25 PM

The point of a $9k car you put on track is that you can live w/the loss. He was actually referring to a life insurance policy, not covering the car... It does sound like he's full of it. It's been an incredible headache so far, actually. I put tires on the car, did the diff mount (that's another story), got a different sway bar. In his defense I'd only had the deposit for 2 days, even though we were talking about for about 3 days prior to that. Anyway, it turned into a whole cluster, he claimed through paypal for the whole amount (after we'd agreed I'd give him a part of it back), then after I responded to that (and he lost), we agreed that I'd wire him some of it Friday, and this morning paypal says he claimed fraudulent charge through paypal. I'm not entirely sure what I should do here, paypal's already reached into my checking account once for this guy... I don't want to send him part of his deposit, only to have him remove all of the original deposit... I HATE selling BMWs, for this reason. Happens too often, and what a pain it is...

Fuel leak issue -->check fuel line as suggested above.

The WRX is cool, it's no M3, but it's cool. The power is not as smooth, it doesn't oversteer doesn't have as much grip, etc. But it's a fun little peppy, practical, and inexpensive wonder.

12/18/2008 6:05:54 PM

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"Quinn must not know about subaru's..."

it was a joke. the "4" part

12/18/2008 6:21:19 PM

i too, have owned a wrx...

12/18/2008 11:48:11 PM

So, I drove the M3 again back to back with the Subaru, and as usual I'm perplexed. The M3 w/the stock rear sway bar (as opposed to the H/R race bar on full stiff) lets me brake much later. I don't think it takes away much from neutrality at higher speeds, which I think maybe more aero related. W/the stock rear sway bar, there's certainly less oversteer at lower speeds. I actually think that the Subaru (which forces me to trail brake a lot more to combat the under steer, while also necessitating opposite lock on corner entry) would help me learn new skills at this point. The M3 is too much fun though, and I may try to hang onto both. I'm thinking about doing all of the rear sub frame bushings w/solids and tossing seats in the M3.

12/20/2008 12:32:24 AM

^^^^you need to call your bank and let them know what's going on. dispute the withdrawal they made and tell your bank to block any future attempts. how have they done that anyway unless the claim was settled in his favor? move your money to a different account if you can also until the issue is resolved.

if you made it clear that it was a non refundable deposit, i would tell the guy to go screw himself. tell paypal the same thing, and close your account if need be. personally, i'd be pretty damn pissed about them withdrawing money from my account. it's not the first time i've heard about them doing such things though. i wasn't aware they were allowed to do that, but i'm sure it's somewhere in the user agreement or whatever, especially if you've "confirmed" your account. that's why i've always kept my account unconfirmed. all they can do is deposit money to my account. even if i wanted them to take money out so i could make a purchase or something, they can't. just in case though, i've got it linked to an old account that i don't use anymore. it keeps a 0 balance, and any money i get from selling stuff is immediately withdrawn or transferred to my regular account.

if the money was given as a down payment, that could change things though. either way, he should have checked the insurance stuff before making the agreement. you should be entitled to some amount of compensation for your wasted time/effort even if it wasn't conveyed that the money was non refundable.

sounds like a fishy story though. i take it he's just not going to do any track events now and won't be buying any car? even assuming he's telling the truth, if his life insurance won't cover him for this car, it's not likely they're going to cover him for anything else either. unlike auto insurance, i doubt they even take into consideration what the vehicle is. they'd be considering racing an uninsurable liability in general, doesn't matter what you're driving.

12/20/2008 1:39:14 AM

Is Ahmet like the sultan of Saudi Arabia's son?

12/20/2008 1:50:39 AM

wat

12/20/2008 2:26:19 AM

i think at this point you've definitely put yourself in a lose-lose situation as i think you are going to end up regretting whichever decision you make. sell the wrx and you'll wonder what could have been. sell the m3 and you're driving something different but not necessarily better. both cars are awesome, but my vote would be choice c. 911.

12/20/2008 11:30:24 AM

sell 2 old cars , buy 1 new one.

pretty obvious solution if you consider your situation a problem.

12/20/2008 12:58:35 PM

So the paypal situation is rather sticky. I don't know if I were clear before, let me try to do a step by step:

1: We talk, he makes offer. I decline, he says take 3 days to consider (at this point he offers to send $4k over immediately).
2: Three days later, we agree on a price. I accept deposit (and immediately send him email explaining what the deposit gets him). We speak over the next two days, I agree to throw in more parts/answer his questions, and agree to deliver the car about 100 miles.
3: Two days later he backs out. Asks for half of his deposit back (that's $250), I say let me think about it. The next day I get back to him saying I can give him $200, but need a few days to do so.
4: Without responding to me, he files a complaint w/paypal. Paypal withdraws $500 from my checking account through my check card, and puts it on hold.
5: I speak to paypal, and their cluster called "customer service", decision is reversed, and I'm refunded, case is supposedly closed.
6: I speak to the "buyer" this Tuesday the 16th, tell him I still want to give him $200 this Friday the 19th, in good faith. He agrees after a long talk.
7: On Thursday the 18th Paypal emails me saying that the "buyer's bank" disputed the charge, and unless I respond, they pull the $500 back. I speak to paypal, they say they decided in my favor, the case is closed for good. I call buyer, no response.
8: Today, I have 3 missed calls from the buyer and a voice mail saying I don't have the $200 yet, please call me or just send me the money. I think I'm about to send him $200, just to be true to my word.

OK, about WRX vs. M3;

I really like them both, and I don't see how the M3 nor WRX not being "new" has anything to do with me not being able to decide amongst them. I should just concentrate on getting a better source of income instead... I guess I'll keep them both advertised, and hope one ever sells, it's not like I've got buyers lined up at the moment.

12/20/2008 1:21:13 PM

Another update on the Bmw dude, I just called him 2x, no answer. Sent him the $200 to be true to my word. Called again and left a message reflecting as such. I hope I won't be out my $200 when it's all said and done, but currently I still have the original $500 that I got from him. Let me say one more time, that I absolutely hate selling M3s. This crap doesn't happen with any other car, though I did witness a good friend try to sell his highly modified C5, that wasn't fun either...

12/20/2008 1:39:03 PM

you still didn't tell us whether or not you made it clear the deposit was non refundable. regardless, after that crap about trying to make a claim, i wouldn't give him a dime.

sounds like what happened was that in addition to filing the claim, he called his credit card company or whoever backs his debit card and disputed the charge. now, whether or not he called them at the same time as the first claim or after that claim was closed and he realized he lost might be debatable (unless you have that info).

either way, he shouldn't have made the claim at all until any negotiation efforts between the two of you were exhausted. the fact that he caused that $500 to be taken from your account would be more than reason enough for me to deny him any refund. i mean, what if paypal in their clueless wisdom, had found in favor of him and you'd had that money tied up in debit card transactions or had checks out counting on that money being "real"? you'd be looking at an assraping of nsf charges in addition to losing the $500.

12/20/2008 3:06:54 PM

Well, I told him I'd rather take a deposit than a down payment when he was trying to convince me that he was serious... Immediately upon receipt of the deposit, I sent him an email clearly explaining what I take the deposit to mean. He had no problem with this until he decided not to buy the car.

I was under no obligation to send him the $200, particularly after the "fraudulent charge" claim through his bank. I don't know if he claimed that initially along with the fraudulent claim through paypal or not. I like to stick by my word, which in this case may have made him some money. I predict he will get his initial $500 back from his bank (but not paypal). It should not effect me. If it does, loosing a net of $200 is worth not breaking my word in my eyes. Don't get me wrong, I think he's an a-hole to the 9th and doesn't deserve anything from me, but remote communication is always open to misinterpretation. I'm more comfortable having taken the high ground.

12/20/2008 3:42:25 PM

MMMMmmm, yum.

12/20/2008 4:09:22 PM

gold rims, haha thats cute

12/20/2008 4:18:34 PM

You didn't see the wheels on the first post?

They are cute, the whole car is! Makes me giggle.

12/20/2008 4:29:48 PM