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"people who think not getting a circumcision is detrimental, are just ignorant."

Can you read?

12/7/2008 11:10:55 PM

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"ad hominem"

exactly. you haven't posted anything worthwhile, so why should i?

12/7/2008 11:13:59 PM

man, some people get really angry over penis skin

12/7/2008 11:14:50 PM

Hey guys,
Did you see the fight outside?

12/7/2008 11:15:12 PM

It is a big deal and very irresponsible not to have it done. It risks the childs health, well being and happiness. It is not "mutilation" it is a safe procedure that will enrich his life and may save his life (or his girlfriend).

12/7/2008 11:17:26 PM

Hey guys,
Did you see the fight outside?

12/7/2008 11:17:56 PM

look how much fun this is!!

12/7/2008 11:19:53 PM

nah, missed it. were there bloody noses and black eyes?

12/7/2008 11:20:03 PM

damn, how do you pee out of one of those? looks like it would hit the skin and spray all over your legs.

12/7/2008 11:22:10 PM

^^
no i'm just tryin to move in on this 2 set.



sup ladies.


also, those dicks be gross.

12/7/2008 11:23:15 PM

i can't believe the ignorance itt.

12/7/2008 11:26:17 PM

The predicted lifetime risk of penile cancer for an uncircumcised man has been estimated as 1 in 600. This is eliminated when circumsized.

12/7/2008 11:26:21 PM

599 out of 600 chance of not having it?

give me odds like that in the oil business and i'll be a rich man.

12/7/2008 11:27:16 PM

^ 100! Those shits are hideous! If I were attempting to give head to one of those, I wouldn't even know where to start to get it "up". Eww!

12/7/2008 11:27:33 PM

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"The American Cancer Society (2006) stated, "The current consensus of most experts is that circumcision should not be recommended as a prevention strategy for penile cancer"

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/CRI/content/CRI_2_4_2X_Can_penile_cancer_be_prevented_35.asp

where are you getting your numbers, GGmon? you're spewing shit out of your ass.

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"The predicted lifetime risk of penile cancer for an uncircumcised man has been estimated as 1 in 600. This is eliminated when circumsized."

try 1 in 100,000

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 11:31 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2008 11:30:01 PM

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"599 out of 600 chance of not having it?"

More chance of getting penis cancer then dying in a car crash. So your saying the baby doesn;t need a car seat?

12/7/2008 11:32:19 PM

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"http://www.circinfo.net/cancer_of_the_penis.html"

http://www.circinfo.net/cancer_of_the_penis.html

12/7/2008 11:33:21 PM

the AAP says the risk is 1 in 100,000 in the USA. i'd say they're a more reputable source than your website.

12/7/2008 11:36:47 PM

CircInfo is a pro-circumcision website like the site I posted on sexual mutilation. You can find more reliable information at the NIH or AAP.

12/7/2008 11:37:52 PM

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"the AAP says the risk is 1 in 100,000 in the USA. i'd say they're a more reputable source than your website."

That is all men. With such a high number of men circumsized (which removes the possibility of penis cancer) this skews the results.

I know math is hard, but come on.

12/7/2008 11:39:52 PM

WolfpckGrl17, I'm sorry to inform you but that is what a majority of the penises on the planet look like. You are really that ready to admit that you wouldn't know how to please over half the men on the planet just because there is some extra skin there?



the picture of the "dicks" is a sequence of photos of ONE penis. the last pic may look "normal" to you because the man is fully aroused and the foreskin is completely pulled back.








Pretty fucking funny that all you guys came in a thread where a dude was talking about his dick and tried to make it about you.




if you cant imagine life without being cut, why are you so upset that 2 fat married women may not like your dick for a choice someone else made for you?

12/7/2008 11:43:50 PM

No matter what website - the facts are the facts. You can keep trying to justify your lack of judgement all night - but it will not change the fact that the benefits of circumcision outweigh the risks.

I’m sure your son will be happy you “protected” him from a procedure that could save his life, a procedure he would NOT remember.

12/7/2008 11:43:57 PM

^^ thank you.

12/7/2008 11:45:04 PM

Your so-called facts are not enough to justify the routine procedure for the NIH or the AAP or the AMA. And they aren't enough to justify it to me.

The lack of remembrance of a procedure is also not justification of its atrocity. That is bullshit.

And, my son has far more important things to worry about and more painful and complex medical procedures to endure without me subjecting him to something that is fucking elective.

12/7/2008 11:49:04 PM

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"if you cant imagine life without being cut, why are you so upset that 2 fat married women may not like your dick for a choice someone else made for you?"

Same reason it upsets me when people smoke over their babies crib - because it is damaging to the health of the child.

12/7/2008 11:49:18 PM

haha...atrocity. damn someone is all up on their high horses tonight.

12/7/2008 11:51:33 PM

the benefits do not outweigh the risk. if i have a son, he will not be circumcised.

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"Existing scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision; however, these data are not sufficient to recommend routine neonatal circumcision."

http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics%3b103/3/686

if the benefits were so valuable as you make them out to be, circumcision would definitely be recommended for every newborn.

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12/7/2008 11:51:49 PM

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"And, my son has far more important things to worry about and more painful and complex medical procedures to endure without me subjecting him to something that is fucking elective."

Yes - because your child has other health issues - that totally justifies skipping a procedure that would enrich (and maybe save) his life. But hey, I understand - it is totally worth it so that his junk looks the same as his daddies.

12/7/2008 11:52:05 PM

you're an awful troll.

12/7/2008 11:53:32 PM

My son is going to be lucky if he fucking lives long enough to worry about penile cancer.

And I had already made my decision to not circumcise him long before he was born. I think that it is ridiculous that normal people are willing to CUT OFF THE END OF SOMEONE'S PENIS just so it looks like their daddy's.

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 11:54 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2008 11:54:10 PM

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" scientific evidence demonstrates potential medical benefits of newborn male circumcision"

Bitchplease - well played. As the hip kids say - self pwn.

12/7/2008 11:54:14 PM

oh, okay.

12/7/2008 11:55:51 PM

just keep ignoring all those benfets, Bottombaby.

12/7/2008 11:56:33 PM

GREEN JAY:

First of all, I've only seen a couple of UNCIRCUMCISED penises. Hence, why I said that I was not used to them, b/c umm...I'M NOT! When I said I wouldn't know what to do with them and/or start, it was BASICALLY a JOKE! But at the same time, it's a HUGE TURNOUFF to have to "deal" with it. And I don't know where you get "most guys are that way" b/c you haven't been with MOST guys (no one has). So that'd be a biased assumption.

Secondly, I KNOW that's ONE penis. It's showing different stages/points in the erection of the foreskin being folded/slid down. You act like I'm a 12 yr. old virgin. I'm 23 and know my shit about penises. kkthnx


NO HARD FEELINGS. I CHOOSE CIRCUMCISED PENISES. NO BIG DEAL.





[Edited on December 8, 2008 at 12:00 AM. Reason : .]

12/7/2008 11:58:09 PM

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"If they remove too much of your foreskin, it will leave you without enough skin to get a proper erection without it bending, curving, or pulling pubic skin down onto the shaft. Infection is a very real possibility. Complete amputation of the penis as well. You are crazy to be circumcized and crazier yet to voluntarily sexually mutilate your child by having him circumcised."

I agree. A crooked penis looks so sad

12/7/2008 11:58:43 PM

So is it just fatties who like the turtlenecks?

12/7/2008 11:58:49 PM

idk, people with foreskin tend to feel that their lives dont need any enriching



someone quoted a 20% rate of adult circumcision. i think that means 80% were fine with it.

these rates might be comparable to other plastic surgeries that are performed on adults.


if you want to circumcise your child, its your decision, and nobody in the medical community is going to say that much about it. especially since they get to sell the damn thing. If you decide not to have him circumcised, nobody in the medical community is going to say that much about it either.


I like foreskins personally, and if I have a son, he can decide what to do with his when he is an adult- just like any other part of his body. Not because I want him to conform to my ideas of normalcy or what is or is not sexy- but because people deserve to make their own decisions about their body when they become mentally capable.

12/7/2008 11:59:56 PM

i just think these two need not be on their high horse about this issue that millions of people haven't divided themselves over.


i'm all for you leaving your soon's junk in tact, but i don't think you shouldn't be campaigning against it.

12/8/2008 12:00:16 AM

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"And I don't know where you get "most guys are that way" b/c you haven't been with MOST guys (no one has). So that'd be a biased assumption."

[Edited on December 8, 2008 at 12:04 AM. Reason : red x]

12/8/2008 12:00:20 AM

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"you haven't been with MOST guys (no one has). So that'd be a biased assumption."

It's not biased. It is a statistic. A majority of men world wide are uncircumcised. And the US is trended back towards leaving boys intact. There are already elementary schools where intact males out number circumcised males.

It's actually really interesting to investigate the history of circumcision for non-religious purposes in the western world. A lot of it has to do with Victorian ideals and prevention of "self abuse" (masturbation).

And I have been with men cut and intact. I have no sexual preference for either. I just believe that it is the right and moral thing to do by leaving my son intact.

12/8/2008 12:03:19 AM

last i checked, most european countries dont really practice circumcision

12/8/2008 12:03:52 AM

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if he were only here to see the shit that he started

12/8/2008 12:04:42 AM

^^^ I said I'd like to have some sort of statistics or percentages to show me the ratio. I have no clue..but I know I prefer to have sex with CIRCUMCISED males. That extra skin is just a turn-off. Makes me not even wanna do ANYTHING with him. IMHO.

[Edited on December 8, 2008 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .]

12/8/2008 12:05:36 AM

I campaign against it because I find that it is just as violating and abusive as female circumcision. The whole world is up in arms about it and it is fucking hypocritical as shit to ignore what we're doing to our male children.

12/8/2008 12:07:23 AM

people ignore it because its not like its hurting anyone.

12/8/2008 12:08:23 AM

yeah, and when he starts showing his shit to his 14 year old girlfriend when he's 16, she's going to Ferrr reak!

i really just think that you are crusading on this issue wayyy too hard, pun intended. i'm pretty happy with a decision my parents made for me, as i am for the style and manner in which they raised me, none of which i had control over but all of which had a huge bearing on my life.

12/8/2008 12:08:27 AM

the WHO estimates 30% of men worldwide are circumcized.


I am not on my high horse in this thread. I dont care if you cut your babys dick off, or their head. I am just showing my support for foreskins and peoples right to choose for themselves.

12/8/2008 12:09:37 AM

The WHO states that only 30 percent of men world wide are circumcised.

And my son's teenage girlfriend is not going to think that it is so strange that he is intact. Parents are no longer circumcising their children. The AAP no longer supports it and many parents are following their recommendations. In my 7 years as working as a nanny in Raleigh, I have seen 2 circumcised little boys.

12/8/2008 12:10:36 AM

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"idk, people with foreskin tend to feel that their lives dont need any enriching "

Unless they get an STD or Penis cancer - and you know, die.

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"last i checked, most european countries dont really practice circumcision"

Yes - because some dunhill smoking eurotrash is who I want to model my life after.

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" I just believe that it is the right and moral thing to do by leaving my son intact."

You are not mutilating him or making him less whole. You are doing a standard procedure that removes many risks. The fact you related this to the "evil" catholic church proves to me you made this decision based on your left wing ideals. Problem is - said ideals are about a truthful as a Micheal Moore movie.

12/8/2008 12:10:46 AM

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"yeah, and when he starts showing his shit to his 14 year old girlfriend when he's 16, she's going to Ferrr reak!"

If she's one of the girls who freaks out over something like that, maybe he shouldn't be with her in the first place.

12/8/2008 12:11:59 AM