art speaks to people in different ways, no one can tell anyone what to like, i like cutesy paintings and messy paintings, as long as i can feel the emotion in them, or the colors are purdy and mix together well.




but anyways...

1/5/2009 11:17:10 PM

FOR REAL FOR REAL??

1/5/2009 11:17:47 PM

This thread is awesome

1/5/2009 11:17:57 PM

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"So in actuality it could have zero meaning at all. "

aHA! precisely the beautiful dichotomy that you, nor I, will ever get. welcome to ambiguity.

1/5/2009 11:18:30 PM

NAW BITCH, YOU HAVE TO BE JOKING

1/5/2009 11:18:42 PM

personally, I love any art, music, cinema that I can't wrap my head around fully, if at all.

1/5/2009 11:19:40 PM

yeah you can as a group, lots of people do. I told him it wouldn't sell but we have a bet going on so I put it up

NICE TRY THOUGH

dude make em smaller so people can enjoy them

SRSLY

1/5/2009 11:20:06 PM

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""is he famous or something?" ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS SERIOUSLY ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS FUCKING DIE"

But is it deserved? My toddler can stand over any surface and drip paint (or food) all over it. "Action painting" my ass.

Compare Pollock's big, famous One: Number 31:



to some of Johns's work (I took these at MoMA a while ago - apologies if the quality isn't so hot):





Which one is more likely to evoke a reaction in someone who hasn't smoked weed?

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:21 PM. Reason : ..]

1/5/2009 11:20:21 PM

LOOK AT THAT GODDAMNED "SHARK"



IS THIS MRS. ATKINSON'S CLASS?



AM I BACK IN THE MOTHERFUCKIN FIRST GRADE?



CAN A NIGGA GET SOME BOOK-IT POINTS AND A FREE MOTHERFUCKIN PIZZA FROM PIZZA HUT?

1/5/2009 11:21:16 PM

haha watch out kiljadn might go bold, italics, and underline on your ass!!!

1/5/2009 11:21:20 PM

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"precisely the beautiful dichotomy that you, nor I, will ever get."

It seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't think there's anything to "get" here.

I actually like those tire swing pictures. They would make good blank greeting cards

1/5/2009 11:21:34 PM

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"yeah you can as a group, lots of people do. I told him it wouldn't sell but we have a bet going on so I put it up"

they are declared coalitions though

i'm telling you

do not fuck with etsy, i've been reading and those fuckers are fierce

1/5/2009 11:21:44 PM

one is abstract

one is not

hi, I'm art. and you are?

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"It seems pretty straightforward to me. I don't think there's anything to "get" here. "

I most certainly was NOT talking about Kiwi's work. keep up, now.

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:23 PM. Reason : asdfasdfasdadaa]

1/5/2009 11:21:54 PM

they are blank

I hate saying something is mine when it isn't but I can change that if I have to

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:22 PM. Reason : dwjfkd]

1/5/2009 11:22:04 PM

"art" without the conveyance of some emotion or feeling (be it an actual emotion or simply abstracts like emptiness or ambiguity) can't really be considered "art" at all... just "drawings", or "paintings" (or in the case of musical arts, "sounds")... but not "art".

1/5/2009 11:22:15 PM

I'm not saying I could paint like Pollock.

I just think his painting sucks balls.

1/5/2009 11:22:46 PM

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"BOOK IT POINTS"

1/5/2009 11:24:12 PM

^^^^^ I know you were talking about Pollock

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:24 PM. Reason : this thread is too fast lol]

1/5/2009 11:24:12 PM

shit this is my fastest thread yet!

1/5/2009 11:24:56 PM

Are you actually selling those cards Kiwi?

1/5/2009 11:25:59 PM

yeah on my etsy shop, that's where they found them

http://royaldreams.etsy.com

1/5/2009 11:26:43 PM

I want to make it clear that I've never been a huge Pollack fan.

I like to think that with the proper level of inner turmoil, anyone could produce similar expression, because much of what seems to be conveyed in his work is unending series of tangles, explosions, and specks. It reflects a lot of emotion, ESPECIALLY if you've ever seen him in the act.

That said, I don't GET his individual works, but I think I get where it came from, and definitely understand his acclaim, and conversely, his criticism. He's quite polarizing.

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:27 PM. Reason : asdfasfdasdfsd]

1/5/2009 11:26:44 PM

you might as well post your etsy address at this point good job

as many rubes with bad taste as there are in this thread, you might actually make some dollarbucks

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:28 PM. Reason : ]

1/5/2009 11:27:52 PM

I like the Jackson Pollock website.

http://www.jacksonpollock.org/

1/5/2009 11:28:00 PM

Jesus Christ this is literally the most awful shit I've ever seen in my entire life


you are a poor excuse for a human being



nevermind a pretend artist








you make shit paintings and have the nerve to try and sell them for $300




seriously




I wouldn't pay $300 for that shit if it came with the cure for cancer and AIDS tied up in a velvet sack


I wouldn't pay 300 fucking cents




you fucking bullshit amatuer

1/5/2009 11:28:08 PM

^blahblahblah

go back to humping shit splots pal

1/5/2009 11:28:54 PM

uh huh, and I'm saying that there's nothing to get in his work at all.

I don't have the cash now but I might actually buy those cards

1/5/2009 11:29:04 PM

Word.

I will laugh my ass off if something sells because of this thread simply because it will knock all you haters down

1/5/2009 11:30:17 PM

this thread makes me sad because of all the hate in the world.

1/5/2009 11:30:32 PM

HI, MY NAME IS KIWI AND I HAVE TO SELL MY SHIT ON TWW BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE ANYWHERE WOULD BUY IT

1/5/2009 11:31:00 PM

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"I will laugh my ass off if something sells because of this thread simply because it will knock all you haters down I just ripped someone off hardcore"

1/5/2009 11:31:17 PM

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"uh huh, and I'm saying that there's nothing to get in his work at all. "

maybe. but that alone says to me that you don't understand what I'm saying.

I don't want to 'GET' everything I see or hear. Fuck that boring, tangible perspective.

I digress.

1/5/2009 11:31:49 PM

Everyone has to start somewhere.

If my shit makes it big you'll be singing a different tune

ART=HATE=EMOTION=RAWR

1/5/2009 11:31:54 PM

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"I will laugh my ass off if something sells because of this thread simply because it will knock all you haters down I AM A SELL OUT"

1/5/2009 11:33:05 PM

ok.

i just saw that you're trying to sell a piece on which you placed feet dipped in 4-5 different colors, and stepped on your medium at different angles.. .

for $500.

OK. you're insane.

1/5/2009 11:34:08 PM

You won't make it a GOD DAMNED place.


That is my fucking final word.


Hell, I'll even put MONEY on it.

1/5/2009 11:34:13 PM

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"personally, I love any art, music, cinema that I can't wrap my head around fully, if at all. I don't want to 'GET' everything I see or hear. Fuck that boring, tangible perspective. "

So you can tell people about the latest difficult, pretentious piece of shit that some artsy, neo-bohemian fraud told you was important?

Abstract and somewhat difficult is okay - I like the poetry of Wallace Stevens... his sole goal in writing was to create resonance; to make his readers stop and actually see that which habit rendered invisible by using a disquieting description, one that is true but as with culture and religion, not really seen by individuals embedded in the day to day.

But... incomprehensible rubbish sucks - I loathe Gertrude Stein.

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:35 PM. Reason : ...asdfasdajj]

1/5/2009 11:34:21 PM

If people are asking to see my site after viewing some work posted on here (not by me mind you) that's not selling out

1/5/2009 11:34:28 PM

WillemJoel I already explained that.

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"My fiance did that one. I told him it wouldn't sell but we have a bet going on so I put it up NICE TRY THOUGH"

1/5/2009 11:36:27 PM

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"ART=HATE=EMOTION=RAWR"

Something doesn't have to be swirling blotches of shit-color to be considered emotional...

The point here is that making a pretty picture simply for the sake of making a pretty picture or for the $texas (or in this case, $hawaii) is not "art" nor should it be called such. You can call it a pretty picture, you can call it a painting, you can call it a drawing, you can call it fucking pigment on a canvas, but you can't call something created in that context "art" and be correct.

1/5/2009 11:38:35 PM

wait wait wait - I can't wrap my head around this.

Not even a year ago - you were so destitute and worthless that you were living off your boyfriend rent free and had massive credit card debt AND CONTINUED TO LIVE WITH HIM RENT FREE AND BITCH AFTER YOU BROKE UP.

Now you own a fucking house and have a fiancee?

1/5/2009 11:39:12 PM

i don't see the uboat picture there

1/5/2009 11:39:56 PM

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"So you can tell people about the latest difficult, pretentious piece of shit that some artsy, neo-bohemian fraud told you was important?"

you probably ought to opt for PM if you're just going to blatantly, baselessly call me out on something on which I haven't even commented. I said I enjoyed not understanding art. I haven't and don't go around touting obtuse artists, nor do I seek them out. Never have. Never will. Hell, 80% of the shit considered "abstract" I find to be absolutely tedious and forced, and can do away with. If you had read the thread, and, particularly, my posts (since you've taken interest enough to attempt to be a complete condescending pedant towards me with no reason), you can clearly see my thoughts on Pollack as a whole. Because, let's face it, this thread turned in a Pollack thread--not a thread about "neo-Bohemian frauds," about which, I know nothing. I know nothing of this, because none of the aforementioned frauds have spoken to me about said "important" pieces of shit.

and, for reasons like your own, I loathe Thomas Pynchon.

[Edited on January 5, 2009 at 11:42 PM. Reason : dddddddddd]

1/5/2009 11:40:42 PM

Quote :

"The point here is that making a pretty picture simply for the sake of making a pretty picture or for the $texas (or in this case, $hawaii) is not "art" nor should it be called such. You can call it a pretty picture, you can call it a painting, you can call it a drawing, you can call it fucking pigment on a canvas, but you can't call something created in that context "art" and be correct."

What about Rockwell's Saturday Evening Post covers, or his civil rights paintings?

1/5/2009 11:41:10 PM

man, i hope when i get my etsy site up i can start some tww controversy to get a couple pieces out the door

1/5/2009 11:41:14 PM

Quote :

"The point here is that making a pretty picture simply for the sake of making a pretty picture or for the $texas (or in this case, $hawaii) is not "art" nor should it be called such. You can call it a pretty picture, you can call it a painting, you can call it a drawing, you can call it fucking pigment on a canvas, but you can't call something created in that context "art" and be correct."

DING DING DING


WE HAVE A WINNER


PLX COLLECT YOUR PRIZE HERE:

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1/5/2009 11:41:41 PM

haha im putting the boat up now, there's quite a demand for it!

1/5/2009 11:41:51 PM

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" Main Entry: 2art Listen to the pronunciation of 2art Pronunciation: \'ärt\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French, from Latin art-, ars — more at arm Date: 13th century 1: skill acquired by experience, study, or observation 2 a: a branch of learning: (1): one of the humanities (2)plural : liberal arts barchaic : learning , scholarship3: an occupation requiring knowledge or skill 4 a: the conscious use of skill and creative imagination especially in the production of aesthetic objects ; also : works so produced b (1): fine arts (2): one of the fine arts (3): a graphic art5 aarchaic : a skillful plan b: the quality or state of being artful6: decorative or illustrative elements in printed matter"

1/5/2009 11:42:12 PM

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"i don't see the uboat picture there"

Maybe it's not for sale

1/5/2009 11:43:09 PM

hahahahahahha goddamn these wide ass pics

1/5/2009 11:43:46 PM