catzor All American 1749 Posts user info edit post |
If you were perfect, you should be able to date him and trust him no matter his sexual orientation. However, in reality, it would be emotionally tumultuous if you aren't the most confident person. That doesn't seem to be the case or you wouldn't be talking to TWW about this.
Also, it's not that men can't be bi, but the social repercussions of any same sex encounter are much more severe for a man. A woman can kiss a woman and no one blinks. If a man kisses another man, he is deemed a faggot. So the way I see it, it isn't that bi men are "more gay" than bi women, just that they are forced to be more committed to the cause of sucking dick. 4/29/2009 10:10:03 PM |
nastoute All American 31058 Posts user info edit post |
for the top of the page...
again, let me repeat
Quote : | "bisexual people are very very annoying" |
4/29/2009 10:10:37 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "good grief. do straights really get paranoid if their partner has an opposite sex co-worker, acquaintance, or friend they interact with without you there to chaperone?" |
this describes many women, in my experience
[Edited on April 29, 2009 at 10:19 PM. Reason : i don't know too many guys who get bent out of shape about the issue]4/29/2009 10:18:39 PM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
ok this is an example of women getting the short end of the stick in life...its awesome for a dude to date a hot bi chick but imo women shouldnt waste their time with someone thats a homo sometimes 4/29/2009 10:37:51 PM |
puppy All American 8888 Posts user info edit post |
^ are you a woman? Do you know what it would be like for a girl in that situation? How is one awesome and the other a waste of time? In both situations there would be the same issues. 4/29/2009 10:47:46 PM |
Cansnuts All American 10151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you don't necessarily have to proclaim to everyone you're dating someone who's also been with dudes." |
very few people on here know me on a personal level, and those who do somewhat know me i very, very rarely even talk to. to me this was a way to gage opinions, gain a fresh perspective and maybe even get a few opinions from people who may have found themselves in a similar situation. it's not something i would want to discuss with close friends or family as there is a chance they may meet him someday where as tww will not.4/29/2009 10:52:24 PM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
I would not date a woman who is bisexual. 4/29/2009 10:52:26 PM |
StillFuchsia All American 18941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And there are three sexual orientations of men:
Gay Gay Straight
If you are a man and you like to put penis in your mouth, you are gay.
Why this double standard, you ask? It's very simple. Being a "bi-sexual" man involves much more of a philosophical commitment than being a bi-sexual woman. Bi-sexual woman: all you have to do is kiss and lick and touch and stuff. There's no real evidence left after the fact. It's pretty much all the same stuff a guy might do, without the penis action. As a "bi-sexual" man, you have to deal with putting someone else's PENIS inside of you and the stuff that shoots out of it.
Long after your experience is done, you still have semen inside one of your orifices. This is not something that you can just shrug off and go back to liking girls.
There is no such thing as a bi-sexual man. Perhaps a whore that will drop a load wherever he can, but if he's gone so far as to try penis, and will try penis again, he's gay. Anyone who disagrees with me is automatically wrong." |
People have already pointed out how sexist this comment is, but I'll add my two cents. It's ridiculous to assume that semen in an orifice means you then hate vaginas. It's also ridiculous to assume that being a bi male automatically means you are the submissive when you do things with other guys (which most everyone else in this thread seems to imply as well): if a guy enjoys getting his dick sucked by another dude, does that mean he's gay? Does that mean that he wouldn't even be able to tolerate getting blown by a chick? Of course not.
I dated a bisexual guy several years ago (for a year and a half), and he's now engaged to a girl. I trusted him, and he trusted me: we never cheated on each other. I think the tendency to cheat is independent of one's preference for one gender over the other (or in the case of bisexuals, no preference).
[Edited on April 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2009 10:53:36 PM |
ShinAntonio Zinc Saucier 18947 Posts user info edit post |
Instead of moving this to chit chat, maybe it'd be better to ask Omar to edit out the pics on the last page.
Quote : | "bisexual people are very very annoying" |
Explain this. Are you referring to college party girl who makes out with other women for attention or something else? Just curious.4/29/2009 11:14:54 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look, this is very simple.
There are three sexual orientations of women:
Lesbian Bi-sexual Bi-Sexual Straight
And there are three sexual orientations of men:
Gay Gay Straight
If you are a man and you like to put penis in your mouth, you are gay." |
[Edited on April 29, 2009 at 11:33 PM. Reason : .]4/29/2009 11:32:51 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3814 Posts user info edit post |
Moving on to the more important question... would you ever date someone who is metrosexual? 4/30/2009 12:28:46 AM |
One All American 10570 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "committed to the cause of sucking dick" |
LOL4/30/2009 6:11:47 AM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
From my experiences, any guy that has bisexual tendencies = gay. I think it's an amalgam of a few things: overuse/misapplication of the word "gay", sexist ideas that man-man sex is gay and girl-girl sex is fun, and the fact that most people I hang around have never really been involved with a self proclaimed "bisexual" male. 4/30/2009 8:03:53 AM |
Willy Nilly Suspended 3562 Posts user info edit post |
^ Translation: "Others are sexist, so I might as well be sexist, too." 4/30/2009 8:15:25 AM |
lewoods All American 3526 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Moving on to the more important question... would you ever date someone who is metrosexual?" |
Bi, yes. Metro, hell no.
Unless owning a cat makes a guy metro. Then I'm kind of screwed.4/30/2009 8:32:17 AM |
AntiMnifesto All American 1870 Posts user info edit post |
Oops, sorry Cansnuts, I didn't mean that quote to be like "quit talking your drama all over the place" but more like, once you've figured out how you feel about this dude, to just perhaps not bring it up with friends and family who are going to have negative feelings about a guy you're dating being bi. Then you might save yourself a lot of unwanted explanations and drama. 4/30/2009 8:46:22 AM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ Translation: "Others are sexist, so I might as well be sexist, too."" |
Nevermind that I said "from my experience," not "Here's what I think".
From my experience = Here's what the majority of people I hang around think.
I am sexy, not sexist.4/30/2009 9:08:20 AM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
i'm pretty sure that the majority of gay dudes are also metrosexual 4/30/2009 9:11:41 AM |
Willy Nilly Suspended 3562 Posts user info edit post |
^ Which is why you're a homosexist. The idea that gay dudes are generally effeminate is sexist. I'm no scientist, but I believe that gender (masculine/feminine), sexuality (straight/bi/gay), and sex (male/female) are intrinsically independent of one another.
Quote : | "From my experience = Here's what the majority of people I hang around think." | My bad. I read: "From my experience = Here's what I think"4/30/2009 9:32:22 AM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
^word up
I'm still sexy 4/30/2009 10:00:27 AM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
Just to ask the question... did it occur to anyone here that maybe there's a part of the attraction that's related to a specific individual? I have a self-described bisexual friend that has dated both men and women, and his reasons for going for either one was based on the actual person, their personality, things in common, outlook on life, etc. It had very little to do with their anatomical parts.
You people are focused on the sex, and not on the other reasons why people date each other.
[Edited on April 30, 2009 at 11:28 AM. Reason : x] 4/30/2009 11:28:43 AM |
Cansnuts All American 10151 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think in this case it is merely sexual. He has specifically said to me he does not date guys, only girls.
Quote : | "Oops, sorry Cansnuts, I didn't mean that quote to be like "quit talking your drama all over the place" but more like, once you've figured out how you feel about this dude, to just perhaps not bring it up with friends and family who are going to have negative feelings about a guy you're dating being bi. Then you might save yourself a lot of unwanted explanations and drama." |
Oh most definitely. I don't think my family, and most friends, would understand at all and would judge him based more on his sexual past than all the great qualities he has. I just don't think it is something that should even be discussed with them being it's not really their business.
[Edited on April 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM. Reason : .]4/30/2009 11:46:16 AM |
Optimum All American 13716 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think in this case it is merely sexual. He has specifically said to me he does not date guys, only girls." |
I understand, it wasn't directed at you specifically. I'm just surprised that everyone is acting like it's purely a sexual thing, which it isn't.4/30/2009 12:57:02 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Bobby, while your little thing up there (haha, little thing) is funny, I don't see how it's correct. If a guy likes guys and girls, how is he just gay and not bisexual? The very definition of the term alludes to this. The whole "because he put a penis in his mouth" thing is a circular argument and doesn't make sense. 4/30/2009 1:59:51 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The idea that gay dudes are generally effeminate is sexist. " |
I never said they were effeminate. I said that generally they are metrosexual. In my mind, being metro has nothing to do with being effeminate4/30/2009 2:03:32 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
His point is you're pretty much wrong. There are tons of gay men who are not "metrosexual" at all, especially since that's a relatively new idea. There have been gay men for thousands of years longer than the idea of "metrosexuals" has been in existence. 4/30/2009 2:13:19 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I just don't think it is something that should even be discussed with them being it's not really their business." |
Exactly, it's not anyone's business but yours and his...and TWW of course.
You wouldn't tell your mom that you experimented with lesbianism in college (hypothetically speaking) or that you enjoy anal sex only when you've been drinking (again, hypothetically speaking), so keeping with the trend - you don't need to tell her this either. 4/30/2009 2:16:24 PM |
djeternal Bee Hugger 62661 Posts user info edit post |
^^ oh they existed, we just had a different name for them. instead of metrosexual, we called them fags. 4/30/2009 2:20:20 PM |
FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
Group A: believes in traditional gender roles Group B: believes in non-traditional gender roles
no one is likely to win any converts... 4/30/2009 2:57:27 PM |
Hurley Suspended 7284 Posts user info edit post |
4/30/2009 3:44:35 PM |
Cansnuts All American 10151 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm pretty sure that the majority of gay dudes are also metrosexual" |
There's a large population of gay mean, commonly refered to as "bears", who are actually quite the opposite. They are generally, larger, hairy men (hence the name). There are plenty of guy guys out there who are not metrosexual at all (or even bear-like). I think society has embeded what a gay man (and gay woman for that matter) into our brains as these men who always style their hair, dress really well and have an effeminate voice.4/30/2009 4:40:01 PM |
Willy Nilly Suspended 3562 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I never said they were effeminate. I said that generally they are metrosexual. In my mind, being metro has nothing to do with being effeminate" | I don't know.... They're pretty similar -- But there are always different definitions out there:
metrosexual: "in fashion and very well groomed.... meticulous about appearance" "a straight man in touch with his feminine side" "strong concern for their appearance, and/or whose lifestyles display attributes stereotypically attributed to gay men" "usually urban, given to enhancing his personal appearance by fastidious grooming, beauty treatments, and fashionable clothes"
effeminate: "Having qualities or characteristics more often associated with women than men." "Characterized by weakness and excessive refinement." "having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner" "marked by an unbecoming delicacy or overrefinement"
Either way, your generalization is still prejudiced and wrong4/30/2009 7:49:09 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
You should keep typing.
You're bound to change somebody's mind! 4/30/2009 9:30:44 PM |
not dnl Suspended 13193 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^true 4/30/2009 9:56:33 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
if you're gonna use more than 3 of these ^ then just fucking quote the thing 4/30/2009 9:57:36 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
An honest person wont cheat regardless of orientation, a dishonest person will. The question should be, do you think he seems like an honest person? 4/30/2009 11:35:45 PM |
bassman803 All American 16965 Posts user info edit post |
i can tell that the guys that are all like "dating a bi chick would be fucking awesome!" have never actually dated one.
it can get complicated real fast 5/1/2009 5:25:48 AM |
frugal_qualm All American 1398 Posts user info edit post |
I dated a guy that was bi for about six months. I didn't know he was until after we had dated for a while. I didn't really care.
He ended up cheated on me, but with another woman. 5/1/2009 1:30:58 PM |
Vanilla88 Veteran 345 Posts user info edit post |
If a bisexual gets kidnapped, do they put them on a carton of half & half? 5/1/2009 2:26:09 PM |
ALkatraz All American 11299 Posts user info edit post |
^
/rimshot 5/1/2009 2:30:03 PM |
suede All American 698 Posts user info edit post |
From my experience, most of bi-guy love to be in open-relationship. 5/2/2009 1:16:43 PM |