Sweden All American 12295 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sweden All American 8292 Posts user info edit post
FIFA XI TO REAL MADRID
6/9/2009 2:52:09 PM" |
7/2/2009 10:53:50 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Michael Owen has now been cut to evens to move to Manchester United this summer.
Sky Bet slashed Owen's odds of moving to Old Trafford to 7/4 from 20/1 on Thursday afternoon following sustained support for the England striker make the move. " |
[Edited on July 2, 2009 at 12:20 PM. Reason : haha]7/2/2009 12:09:57 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
lol that country loves to bet on anything...
i guess owen has no ties to anyone if he were to make this move as he goes from rival to rival to rival...
hed fill a tevez role nicely i guess if he could stay healthy, but im not counting on this move at all 7/2/2009 12:28:25 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Michael Owen's avaaaaiilableeeee" |
maybe SkyBet reads tww
Maybe it's a trick to get Liverpool to panic and think about him scoring against them at Anfield so they'll go ahead and snatch him up real quick7/2/2009 12:31:20 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
lol 7/2/2009 12:33:09 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Next headline:
Owen signs for United
NEXT headline, 3 minutes later:
Owen breaks 7 out of 10 metatarsals in walking mishap 7/2/2009 12:41:26 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
how old is owen? he's still like 28-29 right? he could theoretically be great again if he would just let his body heal and/or wear suit of armor 7/2/2009 12:42:57 PM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
yea he's 29. he's not the best player out there, but he'd definitely be a great option to backup rooney and berbatov. if he can stay healthy he's still a great striker. but that is a really big if 7/2/2009 1:05:26 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
I actually agree with you guys that he's worth a gamble depending on the contract - but you know if Liverpool was considering Owen, it would be the funniest thing ever to everybody else and we'd have to listen to how stupid Benitez is and how desperate he is in the transfer market
and yes I'm aware that United may not even be considering him, I'm just saying
Would you guys be okay with the Valencia signing and nobody else? I've read that in a couple of places and I just don't think I'd be okay with Ronaldo and Tevez leaving, and all you add is Valencia. Hargreaves is back but who knows how fit he'll be... Giggs/Scholes are older... are you really that confident in Nani/Anderson to take over? 7/2/2009 2:05:36 PM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't be totally confident with just the valencia signing. i think man utd will still be a top team but losing tevez and ronaldo is a lot more than valencia. Welbeck and Macheda might be able to fill in at striker, but I don't think they can on a consistent basis yet. I'd be happy if they signed one good striker like huntelaar and maybe a left winger, because I don't have confidence in nani yet and zoran tosic isn't ready yet. i have faith that SAF will do the right thing though. 7/2/2009 2:42:07 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
If I were a Man U fan I would be really disappointed if they didn't sink at least 1/2 of the money received from Ronaldo back into prospects for the club. Sure, they may not need to drop that much, but the perception of them being content with what they have can't sit well with the fans after that champion's league final drubbing, losing one of the top two players in the world and Tevez leaving on bad terms with words about SAF. They don't need to go spending glacticos money but a little shakin and bakin would go a long way towards calming folks that believe Man U is being surpassed at the moment.
***Disclaimer***
I am not a man u fan and really dont care what they do. I am just commenting because that is what we do here in ST. 7/2/2009 3:01:06 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
im fine with anderson in the middle. hes improved a lot. nani is on and off too much, but thats how c. ronaldo was when he first came to the club too, so i think nani just needs another season and maybe hell get it going.
i dont think hargreaves is slated to be fit by the start of the season so no telling when he will be back
the left side does need some shoring up. ribery would be perfect but real madrid are going insane in the market. not sure if united would take a risk on robben, another left winger...
for how much SAF tried to get huntelaar in the past, im really surprised not to see his name pop up. im hearing more rumors about sergio aguero than any other striker at the moment 7/2/2009 3:55:58 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
I've actually read that SAF may bring Rossi back.
I am definitely not going to be ok if they only have one signing this summer. Welbeck and Macheda are not consistent enough for first team regularity.
I really hope we get that kid from Gremio, and we need another striker (2 would be better), but i honestly don't know who at this point. Benzema would've been an excellent fit. Aguero I don't know about so much. Maybe we could buy David Silva off of Valencia. 7/2/2009 10:08:58 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe we could buy David Silva Villa off of Valencia
fixed 7/2/2009 10:35:23 PM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
either would do, maybe we could get both at a discount price 7/3/2009 12:37:48 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
what type of forward is Rossi? I've admittedly not seen much of him in La Liga but I was always under the impression he plays more of a withdrawn forward role than an out-and-out striker.
I can't believe United hasn't made an effort to get Ribery - he seemed like the obvious choice to replace Ronaldo to me. Or at least another midfielder or winger, that's where they seem like they need to upgrade or at least get some more depth. 7/3/2009 12:45:55 AM |
elduderino All American 4343 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I can't believe United hasn't made an effort to get Ribery - he seemed like the obvious choice to replace Ronaldo to me. Or at least another midfielder or winger, that's where they seem like they need to upgrade or at least get some more depth." |
Ribery has recently made it clear that "it's Real or bust.
Manchester United self imposed a rule saying no big money for stars over the age of 26. Now he is only 26 so I'm not sure if he fits that criteria. I'm sure Owen doesn't count because he probably payed to be part of the club.
Anyone other than dirty red devils fans in this thread?7/3/2009 10:22:48 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
^ Not a Man U fan
Quote : | "Manchester United self imposed a rule saying no big money for stars over the age of 26" |
This is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Why would a franchise handicap themselves in such a way? If you sign a 26 year old to a 6 year deal, at 32 they would still be on top of their game with some years left in the tank.
WTF7/3/2009 10:27:11 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
actually it's no stupid at all
look at Ronaldo
12 million at 18
80 million at 23
26-29 is peak age for most attacking players. If you pay some ridiculous fee (say, 60 million for Ribery) at 26, what sense does that make? It would take him a year to settle, so you don't get your full value's worth - then what if he gets hurt? so he's 27-28 before he's contributing what you expect of him at 60 million. Then his return starts to peter off, and by age 30 he's clamoring for a move to the Tottenhams or the Portsmouths because he feels like he should be getting more playing time than that 23 year old goal scoring machine that your team just brough up from the youth system. So he might push that through, at a rate of 15 million...
so you lose money on the investment over all
soup to nuts you don't get what you pay for with older players, with very few exceptions 7/3/2009 11:06:07 AM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
looks like owen is probably gonna play for man utd next year as long as he passes his physical. i read that his contract is a base salary of 20k a week, so its actually really cheap. he just has a ton of performance based incentives. i think its a smart move, hes a proven backup as long as he's healthy. and he costs almost nothing if he gets hurt or doesnt play well. 7/3/2009 11:17:53 AM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on July 3, 2009 at 11:18 AM. Reason : whoops]
7/3/2009 11:17:53 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
im def down with that move. base salary, hell if he scores 30 goals magically im down for his incentives being through the roof cause he would have earned it...imo, thats how salaries for sports players should be. 7/3/2009 11:33:04 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
What I am saying is that it is dumb to make blanket statements about literally a world of players. I find it funny how people get SOOOO caught up in how old a player is. Why wouldn't you look at players on a case by case situation?
Quote : | "26-29 is peak age for most attacking players" |
That is purely perception. It might be the peak of their physicality but that doesn't mean that they are in their "prime" per se. Soccer is so caught up in finding "the next big thing" that is 20-21 years old that they forget about guys that can actually play. So what if a guy has lost a step in a sprint, if he is a vet and knows how to find space and finish that is more valuable that being able to run fast. The carlos tevez "hard worker" theory looks good to the fans but doesn't necessarily translate to success.7/3/2009 11:34:46 AM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
yea considering he was getting paid 110k per week last year and now hell get paid about 80 or 90k less than that, thats a pretty awesome deal 7/3/2009 11:35:39 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
hahah I love that Owen is coming to OT.
I just hope he scores every time he comes on from his supersub role 7/3/2009 12:32:54 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha
I love how getting Owen is such a great move now that it's to United 7/3/2009 3:47:50 PM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
for how cheap it is, its a great move. it's pretty much a no lose situation for united 7/3/2009 3:59:00 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
United to make another signing tonight or tomorrow, according to sources at old trafford. 7/7/2009 11:13:26 AM |
sleepyhead All American 820 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "OWEN
GONNA
SOLSKJAER " |
7/7/2009 11:23:30 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
lol nvm
[Edited on July 7, 2009 at 11:38 AM. Reason : already been posted] 7/7/2009 11:36:46 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
OLE GUNNAR MICHAEL SOLSJOWEN 7/7/2009 11:48:13 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
LOLE 7/7/2009 11:53:19 AM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
its supposed to be gabriel obertan, 20 year old attacking mid from bordeaux. i watched them play probably 4 or 5 times this year, he always looked good. hes supposed to be the next big mid for france so hopefully he'll be good 7/7/2009 2:22:35 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
He was on loan to Lorient this season, so I don't know if you saw him play, yo
[Edited on July 7, 2009 at 5:17 PM. Reason : and it may not be him. I have an inside source. 4realz] 7/7/2009 5:17:33 PM |
McWinger03 All American 1055 Posts user info edit post |
i lived in france last year so i saw a lot of games. i know i saw him play a couple of times, i think it was the champions league matches they played in, cuz he did play in 5 champs league matches for bordeaux last year. 7/7/2009 5:57:27 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
aahahha Arselol wanted Felipe Melo, but Juve got him first. 7/7/2009 8:30:14 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
i heard from my dad the other day that man city wanted to buy scholes. is this true and why did united not sell scholes??? lol prob couldve gotten 10 mil out of him from those retards. 7/7/2009 8:37:26 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
^I heard it was Everton that wanted him. 7/7/2009 10:05:13 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
o rly. 7/7/2009 10:07:18 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
yeah I too heard it was Everton 7/7/2009 10:13:57 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
eto'o, who i thought was gone to city, is also heavily linked with that other manchester club 7/7/2009 10:59:18 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
oh really, I haven't seen that...
kind of weird, considering Milan made a bid for Huntelaar and most thought it would be the opposite before the transfer period started
how about 80k for Ronaldo's unveiling? crazy
7/7/2009 11:28:38 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
as much as I'd love to see it, I don't think Eto'o to United will be a reality.
Huntelaar is a more likely choice, but I think MORE likely than both is the kid from Gremio. 7/8/2009 2:04:09 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've actually read that SAF may bring Rossi back." |
I was wondering about this a few weeks ago...seems a no fucking brainer to me.7/8/2009 4:30:27 PM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
huntelaar to stuttgart?? 7/9/2009 12:10:50 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
that'd be a waste 7/9/2009 6:00:31 PM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Eto'o just told Barca to piss off. United bound? 7/10/2009 10:56:50 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
real madrid prob bought him too 7/10/2009 11:08:18 AM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
landycakes to real madrid
they're gonna make him stay in LA
just buying him to piss off beckham some more 7/10/2009 11:15:52 AM |
JTMONEYNCSU All American 24529 Posts user info edit post |
lol 7/10/2009 11:16:21 AM |