Ahmet All American 4279 Posts user info edit post |
e34 and e39 M5s are some of my favorite cars. Other than that, I'm all about some e36 M3 action and the e30 325i. BMW does/did make great sports sedans, but as with the rest of "premium" manufacturers, they seem to be loosing a bit of focus.
None the less, since AUDI's probably not going to make anything RWD with 50/50 weight distribution anytime soon, somebody who's in the market for a fun to drive sport sedan has limited options. Let's not lose all hope however, Porsche seems to be on a kick to keep making their cars lighter. The 996 was a good bit lighter than the 993, the 997 GT3 has kept it's weight low, and they're still not using aluminum chassis'. BMW could stand to use more aluminum also, maybe that'll be the silver lining of the fuel standards, lighter cars? Oh I hope so... 4/12/2010 9:38:09 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Saw that new BMW on the road the other day, the 535i Gran Turismo. Wow, that thing's like a German version of the Pontiac Aztek.
They say a sucker's born every minute... 6/24/2010 4:18:59 PM |
MadDriver20 All American 977 Posts user info edit post |
uh oh BMW
http://killwithfire.blogspot.com/2010/06/new-bmw-5-series-no-match-for-a6-in-cd.html 6/29/2010 8:31:50 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Alpina B5 teaser... to be revealed July 1
4.4 litre V8 TT with 507 hp (same as the Alpina B7, which is already out)
BTW, about the 5 series:
2011 5-Series sold out worldwide
Quote : | "Those of you looking to buy a 2011 BMW 5-Series may have to wait longer than expected. The sedan has already been a hit for the automaker, who now reports that they are sold out of the model.
Fear not, 5er fans. The result is that the newest customers will have to wait an additional, but not agonizingly-long, three or four months for delivery. The popular car is expected to make up as much as 17 percent of BMW sales in the United States." |
6/29/2010 10:27:45 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
I'd much rather have an ///M5 6/30/2010 12:37:57 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
that's coming to paris auto show (september?) with the engine from the X5M/X6M, boosted to about 580 hp 6/30/2010 5:55:49 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
BMW's continually moving away from what they're known for: Being the best driving experience in class. They lost their styling way long ago; it'll be very disappointing to think that they're now losing their handling edge to Audi of all companies! 6/30/2010 9:11:27 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ well, audi is THE logical choice to lose to if they are gonna lose to a company in terms of handling... what else is there?
not MB (straightine kings) not VW not Jaguar (actually, the new 510 hp XFR gives very good competition to the germans) not Lexus not Infiniti 6/30/2010 12:01:35 PM |
MadDriver20 All American 977 Posts user info edit post |
Infiniti's with the sports package usually handle just as good or slightly better than a comparable BMW. (skid pad, slalom, bracking, etc....) BMW usually has a better feel though. Infiniti's can be twitchy and ride bad on rough roads. 6/30/2010 12:10:07 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
^^Front heavy FWD based Audi? No I'd expect it to be almost anyone else (save Lexus). 6/30/2010 12:13:04 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
2011 BMW M-Sport 5 Series revealed
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2011-bmw-m-sport-5-series/full/ 7/1/2010 10:59:43 AM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
Well, looks like you're not going to refurbish e34s, BMW, so I have another suggestion to easily boost credibility in your current products. It looks to me as if you erred a bit too close to the 7 series with this new 5. The 1 series is practically the same weight as the 3 series, while the 3 series now approaches the size of what the 5 series offered a decade ago. And it appears that the next 3 series will only get larger and more powerful, while the 1 series future is dubious and leaves no logical name for the supposed mini-related fwd city car we keep seeing renderings of. So.. Don't fight your urge to change tack. That will take too long. Just move the nameplates down.
When the new 3 series arrives, the hatred of the 135's truncated styling will die down as it will be by far the lightest and smallest rwd inline-6 powered BMW. Also, time naturally takes the shock out of new things. When that occurs, sell the new 3 for one year, and when the press derides you for having lost your way, offer new m-badged styling kits for every model, jarring enough to rattle public familiarity with the lineup of cars and simultaneously move the nameplates. 1 becomes 3, newest likely-bloated 3 becomes 5, latest 5 that looks like a pretty bitchin 7 actually becomes the 7, and then you can crown the lwb 7 as the kingly "9" series. And the 6 series can then logically be renamed the 8 series. And now "1" series is free for the embarrassing arrival of a somehow necessary fed city car. I hope you weren't planning to call it an isetta. If so, go in the back and repeatedly whip yourself if the car that is coming is nowhere near a novation of that brass balls design.
Tada! Now, without decontenting or clever restructuring or managerially righting the listing ship of your performance cred, all of your models dramatically undercut the cost of their logical competitors. And you're even free to replace the 1 series with a bigger car so that you can figure out how to get 4 doors on that chassis or the one that replaces it. While you're at it, get a new goddamn z8 back in the lineup. Those suckers are not depreciating fast enough, and I want one. You need to release a half-assed replacement to tarnish the z8's memory and make them depreciate into my otherwise-c6-shopping hands.
If that's too radical, how about a few years before the full 3-to-5 transition by increasing model numbers by one and have an even-numbered lineup. 1 is 2, 3 is 4, 5 is 6, 7 is 8. When that causes outcry over nostalgic loss of the odd numbers, then 'restore' the odd numbers by stepping the numbers up again instead of stepping them back down. Same effect, just slower. :-) 7/2/2010 2:08:53 AM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
I take back what I said about the megacity if this really is indicative of what will reach production. It's rwd, with batteries under the floor and the body is molded (?) carbon fiber!
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/253840/bmw_megacity_project_unveiled.html http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/253840/bmw_megacity_project_unveiled.html 7/2/2010 2:46:53 AM |
Brainfreeze Veteran 378 Posts user info edit post |
gf's mom just bought a 535i. Looks alright. 7/6/2010 11:10:17 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I'm definitely in line with this train of thought. Well stated.
^well it wasn't too hard to improve on the looks of the previous model. 7/6/2010 11:16:41 AM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
bump 3/3/2011 2:12:14 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
New gen M5 official teaser video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6F8N4maXNJY 3/3/2011 3:15:19 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
damn talk about a tease!! 3/3/2011 4:57:24 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Alpina B5 Bi-Turbo Touring at Geneva
Quote : | "The 4.4 liter twin-turbo V8 gets its output dialed up a few notches to 507 PS (373 kW / 500 bhp) and 700 Nm (516 lb-ft) of torque." |
Hi res gallery: http://www.autoblog.com/photos/alpina-b5-biturbo-touring-geneva-2011/full/
3/3/2011 8:16:49 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNiu1r_PZLE
2nd official teaser for the M5... driving in snow in Sweden! 3/5/2011 3:47:39 PM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
^^ What s ridiculously sexy car. 3/5/2011 4:51:22 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Here is a proper preview video of the M5, showing driving in snow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJSF3FVNRgY 3/15/2011 6:17:26 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Official video and live reveal videos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msCwWR1BD-8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eg1Prw4T7Mo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHJrbqFB63U
Hi-res gallery and press-release:
http://www.autoblog.com/2011/04/04/bmw-m5-concept-revealed-official
4/4/2011 9:07:17 AM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
OMG those angel eyes are so ricer....WTF BMW?!?! 4/4/2011 9:52:01 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
bump 10/27/2011 11:59:47 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
New BMW M5 test by C&D
0 - 62 mph: 4.4 sec (official)
0 - 60 mph: 3.7 sec (C&D) 1/4 mile: 12 seconds (C&D)
Wow... so now it is in supercar category, on par with last generation Lambos, Ferraris, and 911 Turbo! Simply mental.
10/27/2011 12:08:57 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
pretty ballin, though not much to distinguish it from the m3 10/27/2011 8:06:06 PM |
arcgreek All American 26690 Posts user info edit post |
except for being a 5 series... 10/27/2011 8:17:34 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "pretty ballin, though not much to distinguish it from the m3" |
eh?10/27/2011 10:58:30 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "pretty ballin, though not much to distinguish it from the m3" |
for starters the M3 isn't ugly...10/28/2011 9:35:46 AM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, totally different. get the fuck outta here.
10/28/2011 7:11:48 PM |