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sarijoul
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UNC's IT is terrible. so they'll probably find a way to screw it up badly.

4/8/2010 9:27:24 AM

CarZin
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Well, I think there are certainly pluses and minuses at UNC. To say IT at UNC sucks is kinda a silly blanket statement.

[Edited on April 8, 2010 at 11:03 AM. Reason : .]

4/8/2010 11:01:12 AM

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Quote :
"I feel like an idiot for asking this, but has anybody had any luck setting up the new email account on the iphone? I feel like an old person for being unable to figure this out. Setting it up as a Gmail account doesn't work, but neither does setting it up as "Other". WTF?"

Anybody?

4/8/2010 12:24:42 PM

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i finally got it working on my phone. they key is to go to ncsu.edu/password and change ur password. i didnt change my, just put in the same one for the new one. it said it would sync my passwords across the network. i did this last night, and on the first try (did everything the same as before) it finally set up my email on my phone

4/8/2010 12:33:40 PM

DPK
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^ password issue has been cited a few times

4/8/2010 1:16:25 PM

dbhawley
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^

4/8/2010 10:48:44 PM

OmarBadu
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google tweeted about ncsu today

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"NCSU paints the town red...& blue & green & yellow. Pics from Google Apps Edu deployment art project: http://bit.ly/bJd9Pc"

4/13/2010 5:09:01 PM

fenway
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^
R we's famous????

4/13/2010 5:11:49 PM

wdprice3
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any word on whether these accounts will remain active for life/after graduation.... I thought I originally read that they would, but someone on here said something to the contrary...

?

7/13/2010 7:36:36 PM

hooksaw
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Just FYI: It now appears that OIT is backing away from its commitment to provide graduating students with e-mail addresses "for life" (sixth paragraph):

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"As an added benefit, students will be able to access these tools using their existing e-mail addresses, which will still carry the tag @ncsu.edu. And now, instead of losing their NC State e- mail addresses when they graduate, students will keep them for life."


http://tinyurl.com/2d35q69

While OIT claims they want to honor this apparent commitment, the current policy stands:

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"Computing Services will extend recent graduates' access to their e-mail and Unity/Eos file space for four months after graduation."


http://ncsu.edu/it/rulesregs/caccounts/student-maint-sop.html

7/13/2010 8:09:36 PM

wdprice3
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^doesn't sound like they're backing away... they didn't come out with a news release or a change in policy..... the policy for email accounts just hasn't been changed... and maybe they consider the gmail account different than a unity account? idk

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 8:18 PM. Reason : .]

7/13/2010 8:17:40 PM

hooksaw
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^ Um. . .no. Maybe you're just not reading the quotations correctly--and I'm not trying to be nasty.

In any event, I have spoken with several people at OIT concerning this situation and my facts are correct. The article that is still posted on the NCSU Web site clearly states that "instead of losing their NC State e-mail addresses when they graduate, students will keep them for life." But this is not the case--the current four-month policy is in effect and will not be changed by any date certain.

And, yes, this information is concerning Gmail. SquirrelMail/Webmail and GroupWise/WolfWise are going away eventually anyway.

Just trust me on this one, okay? I've been through months of wrangling on this issue.

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 8:49 PM. Reason : And if you don't believe me, just call the Help Desk for confirmation. ]

7/13/2010 8:47:49 PM

Smath74
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so what you are saying is that there is no possible way to keep our gmail accounts if we have graduated?

7/13/2010 9:39:33 PM

bobster
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^^ not trying to bust your balls but the link with the policy says : Last modified: July, 2009, jd.
wdprice3 is correct in assuming the policy hasn't been updated.

7/13/2010 9:40:54 PM

Stein
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Yeah, that policy page is definitely outdated. I've always heard that students will maintain their G-mail accounts for life.

That said, chances are that gmail.ncsu.edu will no longer work since according to the university you don't have an account. You'd probably have to log in as whatever@ncsu.edu through the normal Gmail interface.

7/13/2010 10:17:55 PM

DPK
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That policy is old and outdated. I left NCSU and still have my gmail school account. All it really serves a purpose for anymore is facebook spam:




All my personal email was already being funneled to my @gmail.com account before they decided to switch. So despite the @ncsu.edu address, the account really doesn't do a whole lot for me.

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 10:25 PM. Reason : -]

7/13/2010 10:22:22 PM

Jrb599
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hooksaw pwn, stay home.

7/13/2010 10:37:47 PM

Stein
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^^ Out of curiousity, do you login a gmail.ncsu.edu or at gmail.com?

7/14/2010 12:00:34 AM

DPK
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gmail.ncsu.edu

7/14/2010 2:17:39 AM

hooksaw
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Are you guys just trolling or what? Nothing you posted contradicts what I posted.

Yeah, I still have my Gmail account, too--what's your point? According to OIT, I will not continue to have it indefinitely--they claim that they want to let graduating students keep their e-mail accounts "for life," but that currently is not the case. The existing four-month policy stands--and if any of you would like to post a link to an "updated" policy, be my guest. NB: You can't because the one I posted is the current policy.

But as I indicated, don't believe me--I challenge you to simply call the Help Desk. You will see that I am correct.

The following is a direct quotation sent to me in June from a director at OIT:

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"Yes, the announcement about the student transition to Google Apps indicated that one of the results of the moving would be the ability to provide lifetime accounts for graduates. That is a new service that we very much want to be able to offer, however, we may not be able to initially until the identity and access management infrastructure is in place that allows for that. At this point, until we know we can, we are still having to stay with the current policy (which can be found at: http://www.ncsu.edu/it/rulesregs/caccounts/student-maint-sop.html#activation)."


I told you to trust me on this one, but some of you just couldn't bring yourself to do it, could you? You had to turn it into an e-peen battle--and all I was trying to do was help by passing along a bit of factual and official information.

[Edited on July 14, 2010 at 3:19 AM. Reason : GG. ]

7/14/2010 3:09:17 AM

DPK
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I graduated longer than 4 months ago and my account is still active. It might have something to do with me being an early adopter and also an early tester from a year/so ago. No idea, but I'm not trolling when I tell you that my account still works.

To quote your quote:
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"may not be able to initially"


So perhaps they've also skirted some tech issues they thought they had. I don't know.

Calm down it's just a frickin' email account.

7/14/2010 3:45:08 AM

hooksaw
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^ NP. I was referring more to another user. And OIT is probably just behind on things.

And I would think that since OIT claims that they want to offer the lifetime service that they're not in a hurry to delete e-mail accounts. FTR, I get what you're saying, but everything I posted was straight from OIT.

Anyway, I'm glad you still have your NCSU account if you want it. I wish OIT would just go ahead and honor the commitment that was published.

7/14/2010 3:54:01 AM

bobster
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^ http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=597972

7/14/2010 4:36:36 PM

vinylbandit
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"I graduated longer than 4 months ago and my account is still active."


My account stayed active for 7-8 months and then was turned off. They're just lazy.

7/14/2010 4:50:30 PM

wdprice3
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bttt

7/22/2010 12:58:16 AM

ncsuftw1
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i'm assuming my friend is just an idiot but did OIT send any kind of notices that their email would change over to google in the last couple weeks? i don't know when everybody was transferred over but he said he still logged into the old webmail two weeks ago, and then asked me why it wasn't working tonight...

i'd be willing to bet there was an email with info in it but it was ignored but i'm just curious.

and why does the old webmail page still work? it does have a banner ad on the login page but it still has a field to let you attempt to log in...

8/3/2010 10:02:20 PM

fodrizzle
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Yeah... I got an email around June 20th or so saying all webmail accounts would be migrating to Gmail in the next couple of weeks. Probably just ignored it.

8/3/2010 10:04:54 PM

Master_Yoda
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the transition is done. i think webmail still works, but its just as they havnt turned it off yet.

8/3/2010 10:18:09 PM

fodrizzle
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You can still log into webmail... But new mail sent to your unity email only goes to the gmail account

8/3/2010 11:22:08 PM

WolfAce
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Aww, I still have a squirrelmail account but I'm guessing since I graduated months ago it's too late. :/

8/17/2010 4:03:58 PM

hooksaw
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^ I think OIT will migrate the e-mails if you request it.

8/18/2010 8:20:08 AM

richthofen
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"and why does the old webmail page still work? it does have a banner ad on the login page but it still has a field to let you attempt to log in..."


The old page still works because faculty and staff still use it. It's only students' email that was moved to google, us old folk still use cyrus/"unity mail" or groupwise (or in some cases both).

And, while they did send out e-mails about the upcoming change I do think they were in many cases ignored, and the Help Desk is going to be pretty slammed if they're not already.

[Edited on August 18, 2010 at 8:56 AM. Reason : d]

8/18/2010 8:55:54 AM

jbtilley
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File me in the ignored group. I remember skimming an e-mail, but didn't pay it any mind. I haven't been converted over yet, I suppose they are still in the process of moving everyone.

8/18/2010 9:45:11 AM

Smath74
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Dear NC State Graduate,

The Office of Information Technology migrated more than 44,000 accounts to Google Apps @ NC State.

University procedures had been to disable access to your university-provided e-mail account four months after graduation. However, with the campus decision to move student e-mail to Google Apps Education Edition, we are working to implement a process that will allow you to retain access to your "UnityID@ncsu.edu" e-mail account as an alumnus. You will be able to use your account as long as NC State provides an e-mail service to campus. The only difference between your Google Apps @ NC State account and those of current students is that eventually it will include ads off to the side, similar to how personal Gmail accounts work.


QUESTIONS AND HELP

Full information about the Google Apps @ NC State service can be found on our website at http://google.ncsu.edu.

Regards,
Google Apps @ NC State Team
Office of Information Technology
NC State University

10/1/2010 5:57:27 PM

GoldenGirl
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I wish I could have my account back

10/1/2010 6:34:27 PM

Jrb599
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Has anyone been able to set up their gmail.ncsu.edu with Pidgin/

10/4/2010 9:23:20 PM

WolfAce
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gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I can still log in to webmail but I'm not a student anymore so I dont think mine's staying, can't even log into the 'check eligibility' page anymore

10/4/2010 10:34:12 PM

Mr. Joshua
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my shit is all tarded now

[Edited on October 6, 2010 at 8:41 PM. Reason : nope. there it goes]

10/6/2010 8:39:48 PM

wdprice3
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anyone else been getting a shit ton of spam (in the spam folder)? damn Viagra, pharmaceuticals, and watches must be hot business right now.

10/13/2010 7:13:33 PM

simonn
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^^^^ if that's still an open question: set your domain to ncsu.edu and connect server to talk.google.com.

10/13/2010 9:12:19 PM

rtc407
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yeah, wdprice3...a ton, i left it up for a week and I'm around 350...

10/13/2010 9:20:24 PM

wdprice3
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yeh, it's ridiculous. someone needs to fix the spam filter!

10/14/2010 3:23:35 PM

qntmfred
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bump

7/5/2012 9:14:17 AM

quagmire02
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oooh, why was this bumped?

7/5/2012 9:19:25 AM

wdprice3
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the suspense is killing me

7/5/2012 11:07:45 AM

BIGcementpon
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TELL US

7/5/2012 11:51:21 AM

Jrb599
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Because i wanted to remind hooksaw what an idiot he was. Ncsu accounts are still active for graduates.

[Edited on July 5, 2012 at 12:49 PM. Reason : ]

7/5/2012 12:48:22 PM

DamnStraight
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i also wish i could get mine back

7/5/2012 1:31:06 PM

wdprice3
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It appears that NCSU google apps users are now getting the full suite of google products:

Quote :
"Dear Google Apps @ NC State user,

Google Consumer Apps are coming to NC State, beginning Monday, November
12, 2012! In order to continue using ANY of our existing Google Apps
service offerings (including Gmail, Calendar, etc.), you MUST agree to
the Terms of Service when presented. Please read on for more
information.

WHAT DO I NEED TO DO?

Once these apps are enabled in our domain on Monday, November 12, 2012,
ALL USERS will be required to accept a Terms of Service agreement
regardless of whether or not they will be using a Consumer App.

- When you log in to your account the first time after the consumer
apps are enabled, you will see a Terms of Service agreement.
- You MUST accept the Terms of Service.
- You will NOT be able to access any Google services (Gmail,
Calendar or the new Consumer Apps) until you accept these
new terms.
- While you must accept the new Terms of Service, the additional
terms only apply if and when you use a Consumer App.
- IMPORTANT: Google requires that a user be at least 13 years old
in order to use the Google+ app. Carefully enter your birthdate
when requested, because if you enter a date that indicates you
are under 13, your ENTIRE Google account will be locked out.

WHAT ARE CONSUMER APPS?

Google offers an array of apps defined as either "consumer" or "core."
Core Apps have already been approved and are in use here at NC State:
Gmail, Docs/Drive, Calendar, Groups, Sites, and Talk. Consumer Apps are
additional apps and include offerings like YouTube, Maps, Google+,
Reader, Picasa and many more. OIT has been working with NC State's
Office of General Counsel to be able to "turn on" selected Consumer Apps
for campus and we are now ready to do so. Enabling Consumer Apps allows
users to access / use these apps using their ncsu.edu credentials.

TERMS OF SERVICE

Use of the Core Apps is covered by a single "Terms of Service" (TOS)
agreement that NC State has already signed on behalf of our campus;
however, Consumer Apps are covered by multiple different agreements. The
Office of General Counsel (OGC) and OIT have evaluated the terms for
each Consumer App and assessed the associated risks and benefits of use,
and have approved the release of several of these apps for campus use.

On November 12, 2012, the Google Service Team (GST) will turn on the
following apps for campus:

- Google Takeout
- Google Moderator
- Google News
- Google Maps
- Google Groups
- Google Reader
- Google Alerts
- Google Blogger
- Google+
- Picasa Web Albums
- YouTube

More Consumer Apps may be approved for roll-out in the future; be sure
to check http://google.ncsu.edu for more information.

HOW CAN I LEARN MORE?

OIT will hold a Lunch & Learn seminar via Google+ Hangout on Air on
November 14 from noon until 1 p.m. Please join us from the convenience
of your own office and computer to get a feel for how you can use
Google Consumer Apps in your job or classroom. This event will be
recorded for those who cannot attend live. For more information, go to
http://go.ncsu.edu/google-seminar.

For information such as examples of use cases, accessibility information
and more, please refer to the http://google.ncsu.edu website.

Regards,

Google Service Team

This message may also be found online at
https://sysnews.ncsu.edu/news/509a8da6


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* University Computer Use Policy Administrative Regulations *
* Section IV D on broadcast e-mail. See URL *
* http://www.ncsu.edu/policies/informationtechnology/REG08.00.2.php *
******************************************************"

11/7/2012 2:26:16 PM

rtc407
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finally

11/7/2012 2:59:06 PM

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