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"Basketball players play in quarters and have a ridiculous number of regular timeouts and TV timeouts every game. They play on a court that is 30 yards, a soccer field is 120 yards. So even during the few fast breaks every game, a basketball player will never sprint more than 30 yards at a time. Basketball players stand still and "jog" just as much, if not more (probably more) than soccer players. If it's not a fast break, the only time a basketball player is "running" is when he's trying to create something with the ball or when a shooter is running around screens. To think that any basketball player has more endurance than a high level soccer player just shows your ignorance."

I would actually like to see stats on how many miles professional basketball players run per game.

6/21/2010 1:51:54 PM

Obviously, nothing if your so pissed about the calls.

6/21/2010 1:52:09 PM

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"They play on a court that is 30 yards, a soccer field is 120 yards. "

Yeah, because every soccer player on the field plays from line to line

6/21/2010 1:52:28 PM

hahaha...asshole. I will take that.

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 1:54 PM. Reason : I have the worst feet and stamina ever. Soccer is not a good fit.]

6/21/2010 1:52:42 PM

^^^Not pissed, just annoyed that there isn't more effort to get the calls correct. That should be the primary concern of officials and of the competition committees that exist within governing bodies for each sport. What could be more important than getting the call correct?

6/21/2010 1:55:16 PM

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"Yeah, because every soccer player on the field plays from line to line"

Not all game, but forwards consistently come back for corner kicks and defenders always come up for corner kicks. And there is tons of overlaps with fullbacks and halfbacks. And midfielders always play from line-to-line.

And that's just the length of the field. Central midfielders are all over the place, and there is a decent amount switching sides during the course of the game.

And I didn't even mention substitutions. Where a majority of the players play a full 90 minutes. Only certain players like Kobe, Wade, and Lebron go the full 48 in basketball.

6/21/2010 1:55:21 PM

im surprised at how many people are arguing soccer is not insanely athletic

6/21/2010 1:56:10 PM

im surprised at how many people are arguing soccer is not insanely athletic

6/21/2010 1:56:10 PM

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"To think that any basketball player has more endurance than a high level soccer player just shows your ignorance."

So let me get this straight. Because basketball players don't have to run for as long a sustained period as soccer players, that means they don't have the endurance to run with them? You sure are downplaying the conditioning of elite NBA athletes, and you call me ignorant? lol

^I used to run track in high school...I'd run about 10 miles every day for practice...was I as insanely athletic as a soccer player? I could run a lot, I had endurance

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 1:58 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2010 1:56:32 PM

I think most Umps are pretty solid when it comes to maintaining their strike zone. Anyway it's always fun to bitch about calls. Though when Umps don't call lowzone pitches I get pissed.

6/21/2010 1:57:35 PM

Sure they're usually ok about maintaining it, but the problem is that you don't know what you're getting from one ump to the next. Even worse is the "expansion of the strike zone" from side to side that guys like Glavine were so famous for. It's not his fault, he just hit his spots. It's on the ump to make sure that the fucking pitch crosses some portion of the plate in order for it to be a strike.

6/21/2010 2:00:03 PM

soccer fans get their panties in such a wad when people criticize their sport. Nascar gets just as much criticism as soccer and nascar fans don't get their panties wadded. if this thread was about nascar drivers being pussies or about golfers being pussies it would be about 5 posts and then dead. continue your ranting please!

6/21/2010 2:02:45 PM

when did lafta change his story from taking a "beating" to most athletic?

the real question is who is going to win in a fight? a football team or a soccer team?

soccer is like track with a ball and net, great you can run far. I've heard so many pussy soccer players bring up that football players wear pads; yet like I showed in a year almost 5x more Football players had neck injuries than soccer players.

http://www.webmd.com/fitness-exercise/news/20050420/neck-injury-most-common-with-football

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" * Football: 104,483 neck contusions, sprains, or strains; 1,588 neck fractures or dislocations; and 621 neck lacerations. * Soccer: 17,927 neck contusions, sprains, or strains; 214 neck fractures or dislocations; and 0 neck lacerations. * Ice hockey: 4,964 neck contusions, sprains, or strains; 105 neck fractures or dislocations; and 199 neck lacerations. "

and in sports overall the 2nd most common injury is Neck Strain and Pain, so what does that tell you?

http://www.cellhealthmakeover.com/most-common-sports-injuries.html


Soccer is for girls, seriously, I love women soccer players



GO BRAZIL!




[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:04 PM. Reason : titties]

6/21/2010 2:03:44 PM

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"So let me get this straight. Because basketball players don't have to run for as long a sustained period as soccer players, that means they don't have the endurance to run with them? You sure are downplaying the conditioning of elite NBA athletes, and you call me ignorant?"

I'm downplaying their endurance compared to soccer players you idiot. You are the worst arguer on this board because you change the argument to fit whatever makes you look less stupid. Basketball players are great athletes. They are fast, strong, can jump high, and have decent endurance compared to soccer players. Soccer players are great athletes. They are fast, strong, and have excellent endurance.

My basketball coach in high school was notorious for making sure his basketball players were conditioned better than any other team we played against because we full-court pressed for the entire game. We had to meet ridiculous 1 and 2-mile run times or we went through rigorous endurance training. As a club level soccer player, conditioning for basketball was fucking cake for me. Even after they went through the endurance training, I could run those guys into the ground.

Bottom line is that soccer players run longer and more frequent sprints than basketball players throughout the course of the game. They get less rest. And if they aren't sprinting, they are are still running for much longer periods of time.

Therefore, their endurance is superior to the endurance of a basketball players. I don't see how you can argue against that.

6/21/2010 2:06:41 PM

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"Bottom line is that soccer players run longer and more frequent sprints than basketball players throughout the course of the game. They get less rest. And if they aren't sprinting, they are are still running for much longer periods of time"

so what

guys like Rondo, or Iverson in his prime, were known for never getting tired...you'd be hard pressed to find a picture of Rondo online where he has even broken a sweat...I'm not saying Eric Dampier has as much endurance than most soccer players...I'm saying a guy like Rondo definitely does

again, just because soccer players run for longer periods of time in a soccer game than a bball player in a bball game, doesnt mean elite bball players dont have just as much endurance...and then factor in better athleticism, and bam, Rondo beats 99% of soccer players in an endurance race

the only thing you're arguing is that soccer players use more endurance in a soccer game than bball players use in a bball game...thats completely separate from what they actually can do

6/21/2010 2:10:07 PM

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"guys like Rondo, or Iverson in his prime, were known for never getting tired...you'd be hard pressed to find a picture of Rondo online where he has even broken a sweat"

probably because they play a sport where the games only last 48 minutes, where they get frequent breaks for television timeouts, and they get substituted whenever they would be tired.

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:12 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2010 2:11:52 PM

and to all the basketball guys, a wrestling team has way more endurance training than soccer or basketball.

6/21/2010 2:11:54 PM

^^as opposed to soccer players, who stand around waiting for inbounds passes, corner kicks, goal kicks, penalty shots...or who stand around when the ball is on the opposite end of the field...and who also have a halftime break

the myth that soccer players "run for 90 minutes" is so much exaggerated bullshit

6/21/2010 2:13:15 PM

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"* Football: 104,483 neck contusions, sprains, or strains; 1,588 neck fractures or dislocations; and 621 neck lacerations. * Soccer: 17,927 neck contusions, sprains, or strains; 214 neck fractures or dislocations; and 0 neck lacerations. * Ice hockey: 4,964 neck contusions, sprains, or strains; 105 neck fractures or dislocations; and 199 neck lacerations."

First, Football is definitely a tougher sport than soccer as far as contact and injuries go. I don't know how anyone could argue against that.

Second, using those statistics for your argument is pretty dumb. Those injuries relate more to the type of contact received in the sport rather than the physicality of it. Football players constantly hit, or get hit, with their heads. They are also airborne more than the other sports and are more likely to land on their head.

Those statistics would also implicate that Hockey is more physical than soccer. Which probably isn't the case, at least not by that ratio of injuries.

6/21/2010 2:14:16 PM

So guys

Have we decided who's right?

I need to know if I can watch the next match

6/21/2010 2:14:32 PM

I haven't read the thread, but I would like to add:

Rip Hamilton can run 9 miles in 45 minutes

that's a 5 minute mile, 9 times, back to back

that's 12 mph.

Son.

6/21/2010 2:14:39 PM

FUTURE MLS STARS!!!!!

6/21/2010 2:15:04 PM

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"^^as opposed to soccer players, who stand around waiting for inbounds passes, corner kicks, goal kicks, penalty shots...or who stand around when the ball is on the opposite end of the field...and who also have a halftime break the myth that soccer players "run for 90 minutes" is so much exaggerated bullshit"

I'd love to see you last one half on a pitch, mate.

Put up or shut up.

6/21/2010 2:15:20 PM

going airborne in football has been illegal for a looooooong time

6/21/2010 2:15:21 PM

^^did you miss the part where i used to run 10 miles a day when i ran track? oooh, running around for 45 minutes, wow i could never do that, even when i used to run for and hour and a half straight every day after school

6/21/2010 2:16:49 PM

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"as opposed to soccerbasketball players, who stand around waiting for inbounds passes, corner kicks, goal kicks, penalty shots free throws and timeout...or who stand around when the ball is on the opposite end of the fieldon defense when their man doesn't have the ball or on offense when they don't have the ball...and who also have a halftime1st quarter, halftime, and 2rd quarter break "

With those things being about equal (still probably more for basketball)....the longer and more frequent runs for soccer players completely outweigh that of basketball.

6/21/2010 2:17:58 PM

Am I the only one I has pulled a complete 180 and now agree with Twista because of his sound logic and brilliant analogies on the subject? I doubt it. Persuasive guy, that one.

6/21/2010 2:18:55 PM

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"going airborne in football has been illegal for a looooooong time"

Wide receivers can't jump up to catch the ball?? That's what I was referring to. Not to when you went airborne and tackled improperly in high school, leading to your bitch neck problems and limited brain activity.

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2010 2:19:02 PM

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"^^did you miss the part where i used to run 10 miles a day when i ran track? oooh, running around for 45 minutes, wow i could never do that, even when i used to run for and hour and a half straight every day after school"

Hahah, so you can run slowly for ten miles.

What about sprinting at 100%, waiting ten seconds, and then sprinting again? Abruptly changing direction while doing so? Making a tactical decision while doing so? How's your overall leg strength in order to handle the ball?

Oh, remember that you can't sub out. So if your team loses the ball again you have to sprint. Oh, you're tired? Tough shit. Better keep sprinting back to help your team out.

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:20 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2010 2:19:22 PM

haha yea cause receivers are always the ones getting injured

btw I never went airborne in football




[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2010 2:20:07 PM

soccer players run more during a soccer game than bball players during a bball game, no dispute here

i'm pointing out that soccer players don't "sprint for 90 minutes" or whatever else some of the people defending soccer like to insinuate

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"So if your team loses the ball again you have to sprint."

or i'll just pass it backwards and play keep away for 90 minutes and play not to lose

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"so you can run slowly for ten miles."

i used to be able to run 10 miles in less than 70 minutes, if thats slow enough for you

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:23 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2010 2:20:29 PM

lots of running doesn't prevent soccer from being incredibly boring to watch

6/21/2010 2:21:05 PM

lol @ most injuries = toughest

6/21/2010 2:21:31 PM

he was saying taking a beating, what would you like to compare it to?

6/21/2010 2:22:20 PM

yo, tl;dr the only sports worth watching are hockey and curling

6/21/2010 2:22:24 PM

Gridiron football would have less injuries if they didn't wear pads. Those pads are like boxing gloves, where the point of them isn't to protect, it's to soften the blow so instead of one harsh blow it's a continuous wear down over the course of decades that causes the brain to turn into toothpaste.

6/21/2010 2:23:13 PM

Anecdotal evidence is used to make points in this thread, correct?

Anyway, I played hockey and baseball through high school. I never had a serious injury playing hockey. I had and still have a partially shredded ulner collateral ligament in my right elbow from baseball.

Therefore, baseball is a tougher sport than hockey.

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:24 PM. Reason : x]

6/21/2010 2:23:35 PM

hockey isn't as widely played, pretty obvious.

however soccer is played way more in the world than any other sport, yet can't even come close.

6/21/2010 2:25:02 PM

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"he was saying taking a beating, what would you like to compare it to?"

if you get injured, you must not be that tough

i'd like to see a tight end play two playoff games with a broken leg

6/21/2010 2:26:18 PM

Yeah, I played soccer for about 7 years and never got an injury. I might've scraped my knee once. I played football casually for about a year and came out of that with 3 serious injuries including one 'career' ending one.

Soccer is a pussy sport.

6/21/2010 2:27:07 PM

yep injuring your spine is all about mental toughness

6/21/2010 2:27:10 PM

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"i'd like to see a tight end play two playoff games with a broken leg"

Tiger Woods is the tuffest athlete in this thread

6/21/2010 2:27:15 PM

the risk of spinal injury is much higher in hockey than football

6/21/2010 2:27:47 PM

why are we arguing about hockey? lets get back to trashing soccer

6/21/2010 2:28:46 PM

I don't disagree, not arguing hockey is less dangerous than football....

6/21/2010 2:28:55 PM

basically football sucks is my only point here

6/21/2010 2:29:36 PM

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"why are we arguing about hockey? lets get back to trashing soccer"

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:30 PM. Reason : .]

6/21/2010 2:30:14 PM

Football games have 11 minutes of action

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704281204575002852055561406.html



[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:31 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2010 2:30:45 PM

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"i'd like to see a tight end play two playoff games with a broken leg"

Pretty much all football players need incredible toughness to survive and play just in their regular seasons. Players fight through the pain of a multitude of joint injuries all the time

^11 minutes of BONECRUSHING ACTION

Yeah, that part sucks

[Edited on June 21, 2010 at 2:31 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2010 2:31:06 PM

which makes them even more dangerous considering the stats above

6/21/2010 2:31:28 PM