quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i believe you mean "unfazed" 11/4/2010 11:15:09 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
An English teacher would not be strong enough 11/4/2010 11:15:37 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
iswydt 11/4/2010 11:16:02 AM |
Alfgard Veteran 428 Posts user info edit post |
So students are blocking it? Someone should just walk by them and if they touch you file assault charges 11/4/2010 11:19:22 AM |
dbhawley All American 3339 Posts user info edit post |
^to answer your question "At one point, other students got into a heated exchange with protesters, saying they agreed with the point but not the method of the protest. University police officers escorted students around the tunnel." via wral
[Edited on November 4, 2010 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .] 11/4/2010 11:22:07 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
If the biggest issue they can find to protest against is this they either live very sheltered lives or are just looking for a reason to start a ruckus. 11/4/2010 11:24:22 AM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Think for yourself and let others enjoy the privilege of doing so too." |
- Voltaire11/4/2010 11:24:44 AM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
That little asian guy on the end seems the weak link. I'd go for that point 11/4/2010 11:33:37 AM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
red rover? whites vs blacks? 11/4/2010 11:36:11 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
lol... "FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BUT AT WHAT COST?"
THIS! THIS IS THE COST YOU IDIOTS You have to read things you don't like every now and then 11/4/2010 11:37:23 AM |
Axelay All American 6276 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah, it makes the students of this University look bad" |
Yes.11/4/2010 11:46:02 AM |
lafta All American 14880 Posts user info edit post |
This could backfire on the black students in the worst way the country right now is in a big anti-political correctness mood and something like this is the perfect opportunity to exploit those who get overly offended and hurt free speech and hurt non racist Americans
But who knows what will happen 11/4/2010 11:48:20 AM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
so they closed the tunnel b/c someone wrote some rap lyrics on the wall?? 11/4/2010 12:37:04 PM |
bmel l3md 11149 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That little asian guy on the end seems the weak link. I'd go for that point" |
I bet he isn't "packing" either.11/4/2010 12:41:42 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "so they closed the tunnel b/c someone wrote some rap lyrics on the wall??" |
11/4/2010 12:43:55 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yeah, it makes the students of this University look bad" |
Every university has their closet racists. It's not limited to NCSU. The world should just understand and accept that fact. It would make NCSU look bad if this were the typical day-to-day message. It would make NCSU look bad if it wasn't promptly covered/criticized by other NCSU students.
It makes NCSU look bad when every little thing gets thrown into the spotlight as if this is typical behavior at NCSU. It's not typical behavior and drawing attention to it via protests and news articles will not stamp it out. This is nothing new and it's not going to go away. The same thing will happen next year and the year after that. What we can control is whether we choose to give attention to it and make a spectacle of the school that most of us attend(ed).
This guy from the GoLo comments pretty much sums up the best course of action IMO:
Quote : | "Back in the day, if we didn't like something in The Tunnel, we just painted over it. We didn't call WRAL, or the chancellor, or mommy. forerightgg November 4, 2010 10:50 a.m." |
It's not hard to win control of the Free Expression Tunnel walls when the vast majority of the campus is on your side.
[Edited on November 4, 2010 at 12:50 PM. Reason : s]11/4/2010 12:47:43 PM |
moron All American 34039 Posts user info edit post |
It's the blockaders right to free speech to protest the offensive speech of some other assholes.And they are assholes.
I don't blame them for being pissed, and I support their actions. I just don't know what can really be done about it. The only solution is if facilities checked the tunnel on their morning rounds and painted over insensitive things.
And i don't think this particular case is just about the word "nigger." People have been painting that in the FXT for YEARS now (at least 8 years...). It's that they felt the need to call our president that. There are tons of things you can right about the president if you hate him, but why stoop to attacking his skin color or heritage? That's something that's rarely done for other presidents (mostly because it can't be done).
[Edited on November 4, 2010 at 12:53 PM. Reason : ] 11/4/2010 12:51:10 PM |
indy All American 3624 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Back in the day, if we didn't like something in The Tunnel, we just painted over it. We didn't call WRAL, or the chancellor, or mommy." |
^
Quote : | "It's the blockaders right to free speech to protest [by blockading]" |
Huh? Are there no laws against obstructing pedestrian flow?
[Edited on November 4, 2010 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ]11/4/2010 12:51:58 PM |
Alfgard Veteran 428 Posts user info edit post |
Its also the rights of the handicapped to use the wheelchair access. 11/4/2010 12:54:31 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
Too many whiney bitches in today's society. If they want the shit to stop, their best bet is to just ignore it instead of allowing it to get a rise out of them like the person wanted in the first place. Nothing is going to change until Mr. Hunchback and the NAACP are gone. 11/4/2010 12:55:38 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
I suspect if the protesters had made signs and stood in the rain they would have received a strong showing of solidarity from the NCSU students, faculty and staff.
Blocking the entrance and making a nuisance of themselves did the opposite.
I guess they haven't taken their marketing or psych pre-reqs yet. 11/4/2010 12:57:15 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
why aren't the people blocking the tunnel at work? oh, wait... 11/4/2010 12:58:59 PM |
moron All American 34039 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Too many whiney bitches in today's society. If they want the shit to stop, their best bet is to just ignore it instead of allowing it to get a rise out of them like the person wanted in the first place." |
You would think though we as a society wouldn't feel the need to call the president a nigger because of his skin color.11/4/2010 12:59:17 PM |
SchndlrsFist All American 5528 Posts user info edit post |
^This 11/4/2010 1:01:04 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess they haven't taken their marketing or psych pre-reqs yet." |
11/4/2010 1:15:43 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ i didn't realize obama was a cyclops with side burns...
what makes you think they are calling the president a nigger?
How did you determine what order the black face - word obama - and word nigger were painted in? and how the reference eachother?
ALSO
Quote : | "That's something that's rarely done for other presidents (mostly because it can't be done)" |
Why can't it be done? Is it because others would just choose not to be offended and make a scene like these protesters are doing? Or is it just physically impossible to to be racist to an old white guy?
[Edited on November 4, 2010 at 1:20 PM. Reason : ^]11/4/2010 1:20:32 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I guess all the people that called Bush a redneck and a retard don't count? 11/4/2010 1:21:35 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty sure Bush was called a monkey too. Try that with Obama... 11/4/2010 1:26:10 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
This needs a sequel.
11/4/2010 1:30:44 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23242 Posts user info edit post |
are they still there blocking the tunnel? 11/4/2010 1:32:06 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^^you know what happened when a few pictures like that with obama showed up? OMG Racism!
pretty sure that the kids who write this stuff are just trying to start shit/get people riled up/ARE TROLLING.
you know what makes that go away? ignoring them. Look at what half of Fox News reports or what Gary used to say... crazy/wild/controversial stuff just to get people's attention/get them going/etc. What happens when you ignore such people? They shut up and go away.
[Edited on November 4, 2010 at 1:33 PM. Reason : .] 11/4/2010 1:32:07 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
From page 2:
looks like they gave up.
http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/11/04/780527/students-protest-at-nc-states.html
Quote : | "Twenty-five to 30 students at North Carolina State University blocked the entrance to the school's Free Expression Tunnel overnight to protest racially and sexually charged hate speech left on the walls of the campus landmark.
Chancellor Randy Woodson came out to meet with the protesters about 7 a.m., according to campus spokesman Keith Nichols.
By 7:30 a.m., when Woodson left, the number of student protesters had dwindled to a handful and traffic through the tunnel had resumed in time for students headed to 8 a.m. classes.
"It's traffic as usual moving through the tunnel," Nichols said.
The chancellor issued a statement on Tuesday condemning the hate speech, which he described as "racially charged obscenities and derogatory comments directed to the GLBT community."
"The question for us all is are we going to practice the politics of hate and destruction, or are we going to be a force for respectful dialog even where there are differences of opinion?," Woodson said in his statement.
"We must remain committed to the collective pursuit of excellence through acceptance of both individuals and ideas that may be different than our own, for these are the things that will continue to move us all forward."
The offending comments, which were accompanied by a drawing of President Obama, were first reported to campus authorities by a student at 10 p.m. Sunday, Nichols said. Campus workers were immediately dispatched to paint over the slurs, Nichols said.
The protesters began their vigil about midnight, campus police Capt. John Barnwell said. While the tunnel was blocked, Barnwell said police monitored the situation and escorted students walking through campus around the tunnel.
Barnwell described the protest as peachful. "It's been nice and quiet," he said.
Read more: http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/11/04/780527/students-protest-at-nc-states.html#ixzz14Jn5J17d" |
11/4/2010 1:33:46 PM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
I'm pretty pissed that the news articles keep saying they were protecting "Racism and homophobia".
They were there for racism. They never said in their protesting, signs, or intent that it had anything to do with sexual orientation and gender-based discrimination, and they didn't even respond to people about it until they started getting criticized for it.
The guy who posted on their Facebook page was incredibly right, there's hate-slurs in the tunnel about fags and bitches all day every day, and no one ever gets riled up over it. 11/4/2010 1:46:16 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
11/4/2010 2:03:15 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
Nigga stole our free expression 11/4/2010 2:04:04 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
From Chandler Thompson's twitter:
Quote : | "Currently in a really upsetting meeting talking about getting rid of the free expression tunnel. Send me your thoughts alums and students" |
11/4/2010 2:54:37 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
^ That would seriously piss me off if they decide to do that 11/4/2010 2:57:06 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
i love how they constantly say how offended they get when the "n" word is used, except pretty much all rap songs these days utilize the word and are listened to by millions of people.
so why keep using the word, but expect people of all other races not to. 11/4/2010 2:57:22 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Are we going to have to start a petition to save the tunnel? 11/4/2010 3:01:04 PM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
If they got rid of the free expression tunnel over this it would be literally the stupidest thing I've ever seen the University do.
But I also realize it would never happen. The tunnel has been around for a hell of a lot more racially charged times than these. 11/4/2010 3:08:26 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
theres a free expression tunnel controversy EVERY YEAR.
i guess i just forgot when we all went back to 1st grade and got upset about name calling. 11/4/2010 3:09:48 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I don't get why these people don't just paint over what they don't like in the tunnel and paint something else in its place. Seems a much simpler solution and the troll that wrote the offending language in the first place doesn't get what he was looking for to begin with. 11/4/2010 3:13:56 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45166 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If the biggest issue they can find to protest against is this they either live very sheltered lives or are just looking for a reason to start a ruckus." |
the issue is really the double standard at play here.... oh wait...
Quote : | "WHY'S IT GOT TO BE A "BLACK"HOLE WHY CAN'T IT BE A WHITEHOLE?" |
]11/4/2010 3:17:52 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
queue the:
11/4/2010 3:22:55 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45166 Posts user info edit post |
thank you sir 11/4/2010 3:27:04 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
wait, i missed a game of red rover? 11/4/2010 3:33:01 PM |
jataylor All American 6652 Posts user info edit post |
they should have brought the water hoses out 11/4/2010 3:34:39 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""WHY'S IT GOT TO BE A "BLACK"HOLE WHY CAN'T IT BE A WHITEHOLE?"" |
this is one of my all time favorites
Quote : | "[07/2008]A special meeting about Dallas County traffic tickets turned tense and bizarre this afternoon.
County commissioners were discussing problems with the central collections office that is used to process traffic ticket payments and handle other paperwork normally done by the JP Courts.
Commissioner Kenneth Mayfield, who is white, said it seemed that central collections "has become a black hole" because paperwork reportedly has become lost in the office.
Commissioner John Wiley Price, who is black, interrupted him with a loud "Excuse me!" He then corrected his colleague, saying the office has become a "white hole."
That prompted Judge Thomas Jones, who is black, to demand an apology from Mayfield for his racially insensitive analogy.
Mayfield shot back that it was a figure of speech and a science term.
Judge Jones should be very glad that the central collections office has not become a white hole, a theoretical object that ejects matter from beyond its event horizon, rather than sucking it in. It wouldn't be fun for Dallas to find itself so near a quasar. " |
11/4/2010 3:40:41 PM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
I think the biggest of that whole thing was the judge demanding an apology. 11/4/2010 3:42:08 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
11/4/2010 3:42:12 PM |