i edited because LivinProof posted what i posted

what part do you think i was panicking about? i'll be happy to say it again

he was a dirty coach and people don't like to talk about it because he's dead

and what's with V0LC0M leaving out part of his wikipedia copy n paste?

3/18/2011 2:48:31 PM

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"considered to be one of the dirtiest coaches ever"

wow

and where do you get this from?

[Edited on March 18, 2011 at 2:50 PM. Reason : i didnt get anything from wikipedia]

[Edited on March 18, 2011 at 2:50 PM. Reason : it came from a repost of wikipedia]

3/18/2011 2:49:54 PM

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"Anyone know of a place to buy this pic or find a higher resolution version? I want to get it for my state/man room."

I may be able to help with this. Message me please.

Oh and WTF happened to this really nice thread?

3/18/2011 2:50:50 PM

one more question and then i'm out


this Golenbock guy, who wrote the book.


how do we know what he's saying is true?
have any of his claims been proven?

(you know what...ill just read the damn article later and do some research and then come back here for a Q and A lol )

3/18/2011 2:51:04 PM

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"Oh and WTF happened to this really nice thread?"

[Edited on March 18, 2011 at 2:51 PM. Reason : trolls]

3/18/2011 2:51:15 PM

my dad has often told me that Jimmy V was the worst thing to ever happen the NCSU athletics...


even when i was a kid and didn't understand what he was talking about

but he'll also praise his humanitarian efforts later in life

[Edited on March 18, 2011 at 2:55 PM. Reason : but he's an equal opportunity hater when athletics are dirty]

3/18/2011 2:51:24 PM

3/18/2011 2:52:22 PM

im sorry, im not trying to perpetuate the hate, im just genuinely curious

3/18/2011 2:52:40 PM

lol^^

3/18/2011 2:53:32 PM

3/18/2011 2:56:53 PM

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"Never found guilty of anything by the NCAA"

OJ wasn't found guilty either

3/18/2011 2:57:27 PM

daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn

3/18/2011 2:57:52 PM

honestly some of Golenbock's claims were probably bullshit made up to sell books

3/18/2011 2:58:34 PM

I'd list like a million wrongly convicted persons, but your beatup face leads me to believe your stupid-ass comment wasn't entirely sincere

3/18/2011 2:59:05 PM

http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2010/09/08/spirit-not-the-letter-of-the-law/

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"While the NCAA investigated NC State in 1989, the Poole Commission was formed and the Attorney General got the SBI involved to investigate potential financial infractions. Only minor infractions were found, namely the sale of shoes and game tickets by State basketball players, of which the coaching staff was found to have no knowledge. Yet, Jimmy V was vilified as evil incarnate for harboring an environment lacking oversight and control while the local media, the UNC Board of Governors, C.D. Spangler — and, unfortunately, many within the NC State community — spewed vitriol freely upon his name for it. For the record, there were no implications of players cheating or improper assistance by any tutors at Jim Valvano’s NC State. There was no institutionalized cheating or academic fraud within the University. There was no grade-fixing. Players who did not deserve to matriculate or graduate were, in fact, not graduating and therefore not destroying the value of the diploma that so many hang so proudly. Nor were there accusations that agents were paying for players’ trips to Miami or California or funneling money through coaches to players. And, most importantly, it seems that few folks recognize that every sanction leveled upon the State Basketball program was self-imposed by the University, and that the NCAA found this internal punishment satisfactory. "

3/18/2011 2:59:37 PM

Not just ncstate brah. For the entire country.

3/18/2011 3:01:04 PM

3/18/2011 3:04:33 PM

For the record, this thread has been about what Coach Yow and Jimmy V have done for cancer research and for the people afflicted by this disease.

It was never about basketball championships or reputation.

3/18/2011 3:05:24 PM

^i caught that in the first post

3/18/2011 3:06:06 PM

so then it should not matter what basketball related accusations were made at Jimmy V.

3/18/2011 3:08:20 PM

huh? i never said it did.

3/18/2011 3:10:09 PM

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3/18/2011 3:14:02 PM

hella more inspirational than our athletes, that's for sure

3/18/2011 3:17:59 PM

Jordan Collins inspired me to be a better person.

3/18/2011 3:32:16 PM

wat

3/18/2011 3:42:59 PM

Valvano wasn't as good as a coach as our fans think he was

3/18/2011 5:52:19 PM

But he won a national title.

3/18/2011 6:31:46 PM