Quote :

"If someone gave me 10 mil i'd start my own buisness. i have an awesome idea and it will stay mine until someone gives me 1 mil or i save enough to get my small business loan and get it rolling"

yes, turn someone else's 10 mil into 1.

I hear using a pyramid scheme targeted at rich people works.

6/8/2011 12:34:45 PM

my sister is a nurse working full time and she has a kid. My mom had a full time job and 2 kids. Its not "easy" but its life...lifes not easy

6/8/2011 12:36:34 PM

^life is easy... as long as you input the Konami code

6/8/2011 12:40:33 PM

my mom worked full time while i was young... at the daycare i was in.

then when i went to school she worked with a dentist.

my sis and i took care of the home for the most part.

6/8/2011 1:01:42 PM

Quote :

"All objective metrics - infant mortality, child classroom performance, etc. are more favorably correlated with the increasing level of education of the mother."

yes, but the externalities of that situation are providing benefits to the child that are not captured in that metric. the type of person who is in the position, and has the desire, to consider grad school is probably the type of person who is going to be a good mother.

its similar to the statistic about buying books on how to be a good mother. statistically, a child receives a benefit from parents buying parenting books regardless of whether the parents actually read the books. its counterintuitive at its surface, but when you think about it it actually makes a lot of sense; the type of people who care enough to buy books about how to be a good parent are the type of people who will probably be good parents regardless of what they actually read.

so i've seen the same statistics about the education of the mother, but i don't necessarily agree that its a reflection of any benefits gained from actually getting the degree.

6/8/2011 1:09:17 PM

too many of my female friends married with $$ being a BIG factor in the partner they settled with

this is because they want the country club life with a CEO hubby and thursday book club meeting after dropping the kids at school

sickening

6/8/2011 1:11:27 PM

i think "education of the mother" is taken a bit out of context here. feel free to prove me wrong, but i find it hard to believe that any study has split such hairs as mother with a BA vs. mother with an MA vs. mother with a PhD.

i think it means more like... living in a country w/ no schooling whatsoever vs. living in a country where you can get a high school education.

6/8/2011 1:13:43 PM

actually, lots of studies do that. not even complex ones.

think back to end of grade testing, don't you remember having to fill in the bubble for each of your parents education level? they've been looking at that kind of data for a long time.

6/8/2011 1:16:33 PM

I met a girl freshman year...

I asked her what she was majoring in. She said "blah blah major, but really I'm just trying to get my MRS degree." I was like...WUT. "Oh I'm just going to school for some humanities bullshit so I can find a husband and get married"

4 years later, she just graduated and doesn't even have a boyfriend. But all of her other friends are engaged, etc.

6/8/2011 1:17:07 PM

i mean, is she hot?

6/8/2011 1:20:17 PM

^^ahahahahaahh

6/8/2011 1:20:29 PM

i guess on a similar subject we can talk about meredith college. why do people spend so much for such a mediocre degree?

6/8/2011 1:21:05 PM

^^^ I bet girls like that fuck everything with a pulse in college trying to catch one.

6/8/2011 1:21:55 PM

ahahah i just wanted to post in here that cody told me that when we have kids, he's totally gonna be the nurturer. both our families agree with that too.

we don't think i was born with quite the maternal instinct as my fellow double Xers.



this really doesnt have anything to do with the OP just thought i'd share

6/8/2011 1:22:04 PM

hipster children our going to be our generation's version of hippie children.

6/8/2011 1:23:50 PM

One if my bff's went to Meredith and she is going to have an awesome career. She also discovered an asteroid.

Granted, I know she's a rarity.


Anyway, I'm the type who thinks 3 months is excessive for maternity leave.. I'm good with 8 weeks

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 1:26 PM. Reason : ps my study will be looking at BA/BS vs MS vs PhD vs MD, etc]

6/8/2011 1:24:38 PM

blah blah something about a blind squirrel...

6/8/2011 1:26:38 PM

^i have an article about hipster kids im trying to find

Quote :

"Anyway, I'm the type who thinks 3 months is excessive for maternity leave.. I'm good with 8 weeks"

AMEN sista
i was born on a tuesday.
my mom was back into work that following monday.


shes a badass woman.

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 1:28 PM. Reason : fhg]

6/8/2011 1:28:07 PM

Joie, I think I'm with you on that I'll be insanely paranoid during pregnancy and have every test known to man, then once the kid is here I'll probably be all SUCK IT UP when the kid cuts themselves or something

6/8/2011 1:29:01 PM

my dad wasn't poor, so my mom stayed home and rested

6/8/2011 1:29:40 PM

eff that.



i wanna get out!!!

6/8/2011 1:33:46 PM

Quote :

"Anyway, I'm the type who thinks 3 months is excessive for maternity leave.. I'm good with 8 weeks"

You will change your view once you shit out a kid.

6/8/2011 1:35:24 PM

1. I'm not going to go to school for this long just to cook up a crotch dumpling soon after and throw it all away. Leaving this field then attempting to go back after years away would be extremely hard.

2. I would go insane if I was home all day every day.

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 1:36 PM. Reason : ^ i can guarantee you, i wont change my mind.]

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 1:37 PM. Reason : .]

6/8/2011 1:36:18 PM

^^yeah, it didnt change my moms

6/8/2011 1:37:29 PM

I guess she never loved you

6/8/2011 1:40:26 PM

Our moms left us to fend for ourselves



Then we had to walk 50 miles in the snow to school

6/8/2011 1:41:50 PM

Quote :

"think back to end of grade testing, don't you remember having to fill in the bubble for each of your parents education level? they've been looking at that kind of data for a long time."

i do remember that. i don't remember it being coupled with reports of my health.

i mean, now that i think about it i guess that it's a nobrainer that someone has done this study, b/c social science will publish any fucking thing.

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 1:43 PM. Reason : .]

6/8/2011 1:42:14 PM

honest - why have a kid just to have a stranger raise them?

6/8/2011 1:43:07 PM

To OP - College is the easiest place to meet people. Since everyone is in school, that's something you automatically have in common.

6/8/2011 1:45:41 PM

post-grad implies they went to college already

6/8/2011 1:46:28 PM

Why I cant I find a rich hot girl, marry her and then make her meals every day!?!? I'd be stoked. But then again, I love to cook when I have money to buy the best ingredients.

6/8/2011 1:48:23 PM

it's not quite like that.
changing diapers doesnt constitute raising a child.
making a lunch doesnt constitute raising a child.
my nannies did NOT impose their values on me.
they did what my parents told them and then mom and dad came home....


we used to watch twilight zone and she taught me how to make cake from scratch.
she took off of work when my first dog died when i was about 4.
and we had a birds nest in the back yard that they used to lift me up to so i can pet them (btw thw whole thing about momma birds not coming back is crap)

i have the same memories as my friends do who were stay at home moms, my mom just wasn't there immediately after school or daycare.


i think it turned out for the best.


of course like i said before-i am biased

6/8/2011 1:48:47 PM

my girlfriend is getting a doctorate now. im going to be the stay-at-home dad for sure. she's going to be the bread winner.

6/8/2011 1:48:52 PM

i better not see you nursing in public, buddy

6/8/2011 1:51:38 PM

If possible i'd totally be a stay at home dad.

I'd probably start a small consulting engineering business from home too though.

6/8/2011 1:53:49 PM

Quote :

"t's not quite like that. changing diapers doesnt constitute raising a child. making a lunch doesnt constitute raising a child. my nannies did NOT impose their values on me. they did what my parents told them and then mom and dad came home...."

Again - whats the point of having a kid if your going to spend the vast majority they are awake at work? You spent 40 + hours a week with your nannies (way more time with your actual parents) are you seriously going to contend they didn't shape your view of the world. Come on.

6/8/2011 1:53:51 PM

6/8/2011 1:57:55 PM

I think GGMon has the same feeling about dogs

6/8/2011 2:00:18 PM

honestly i don't remember any of much my life until about 2nd grade and from then on it was my sis and i at home alone from 2-4 when dad came home.

i came out allright...

hell occasionally jeepin4x4 and his bro came over too lol.

6/8/2011 2:01:36 PM

LOL twwers arguing against the usefulness of education

6/8/2011 2:03:31 PM

i didn't say they had NO bearing of my upbringing.
but i will say very little.
my nannies played with me and they were sweet women who ultimately socialized me VERY well.
i went almost most days to go see my mom at work and she would send me home with some work for me to do (they actually still have the no smoking sign i made for them at 3 in her office)
it's no different than a kindergarten teacher.


i knew who my mom was.
and i knew why she worked more than other moms.
she wanted to make sure that i had a good future.
and believe it or not i understood this at 4 and 5 years old (theres a story that goes with that)



my mom sometimes tells me she's sorry she wasn't there more often as other parents when i was little but i tell her there is no need for it.

but we have a relationship no different than other people and their stay at home moms.
we're very close.
we spent lots of quality time together when i was growing up.

and all of her hard work has paid off immensely.


i understand you on the whole having someone else raise your kid view though.
but i think thre are a lot of other factors to consider than just staying at home with your kid...


[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 2:08 PM. Reason : dfgfdgf]

6/8/2011 2:04:50 PM

i stand corrected

stay at home mothers should get grad degrees so they can pwn aaronburro on message boards

6/8/2011 2:05:03 PM

Quote :

"Seems silly to me. Women in the office is enough of a stretch."

Agreed, back to the secretarial pool ideally. After all what else can a woman do in the office other than type up letters and attempt to sleep their way up the secretarial ladder?

6/8/2011 2:05:35 PM

Quote :

"stay at home mothers should get grad degrees so they can pwn aaronburro on message boards"

Making it out of grade school should be more than sufficient

6/8/2011 2:06:28 PM

I take care of my kids

THAT'S WHAT YOUR SUPPOSED TO YOU DUMB MOTHAFUCKA!

6/8/2011 2:06:49 PM

^^ and ^^^



lolololoolo

[Edited on June 8, 2011 at 2:07 PM. Reason : sdfdfd]

6/8/2011 2:07:00 PM

i don't know joie... you're not close with someone till you clean poop off their ass..

lol

6/8/2011 2:07:41 PM

Wow - didn't really plan on this being this long.


My parents were poor when I was little, so we lived with Grandma, and she watched me some, and I went to an AWFUL day care. It was terrible, we were there from 9-3 most days, then we'd come home and I would play outside with my older sister who frequently beat the ever living shit out of me, but no one saw it because everyone was busy.

Before kindergarten mom and dad split up and my sister and I lived with my dad, we were the first kids dropped off at early arrival (6:30am) and the last ones picked up (5:30pm). This lasted until 3rd grade started.

After a long, very complicated custody battle my sister and I were split up and I went to live with my mom and stepdad. At eight years old I got home from school every day around 3:30 and I had a different chore every day. All together I was the one that washed the dishes from the morning, swept and mopped the kitchen and dining room, dusted, swept the deck, vacuumed all the carpet, and cleaned both bathrooms. My stepdad got home at six and started cooking dinner, mom was home at about 7 and that's when we ate, then I took a bath, we watched one hour of tv together, and then I went to bed. It sucked.

In short, I know my family was poor and we did what had to be done, but I don't plan on having any kids unless I can give them a better childhood than I had. In my opinion that means spending more time with them. I'd like to think that I could have one year off, then work part time until they started school, and then get something that lined up with their school hours. I don't see any problem with women doing this after getting an education, especially if they can keep up with it and use it again eventually. Plus, you never know, I could end up never finding someone or not being able to have kids.

6/8/2011 2:18:51 PM

by far the best thing I've seen on tdub

Quote :

"One if my bff's went to Meredith and she is going to have an awesome career. She also discovered an asteroid."

I picture ditsy blonde with comically large telescope sticking out of the roof of Meredith College looking at the night sky exclaiming, "O my gaaaawwwwwwww!"

6/8/2011 2:21:56 PM

^ lol!

6/8/2011 2:34:00 PM