Quote :

"ha. so you are one of those guys that roots it and uses command line for everything. so hardcore bro. because all the time we see guys rooting their phones and writing custom tools. pfftt.."

ha. Command line was used only to root it, then you are able to rely on the development community to create apps for rooted users (thanks to an uncensored market). I am hardcore bro, come at me - but don't taze me.

Also, lol @ pfftt

10/17/2011 10:42:26 AM

recap to be accurate:

you just won't experience any of these X problems on iphone 4 or iphone 4s.

/thread.


'problems' with iphone
-i can't root it and therefore can't customize - lol,yeh you are sitting there all day writing custom OS features
-i can't change the battery - you won't ever have to either lol


problems with other phones
-hang on, this part is gonna take a few weeks. brb

10/17/2011 10:47:28 AM

Quote :

"then you are able to rely on the development community to create apps for rooted users"

for example: a backup system like this





what a genius idea. i wonder why didn't apple think of something like this. lol

look at that quick and simple easy to understand interface lol

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 10:51 AM. Reason : x]

10/17/2011 10:50:44 AM

How do they know this they never asked me?

I'm Krallum and i approved this message.

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 10:52 AM. Reason : Among 15k users who visit one site lol...]

10/17/2011 10:51:36 AM

do Apple users really have this much pride in not knowing how to use programs?

10/17/2011 10:54:43 AM

It's hopeless. Poor kid is way past the point of being brainwashed.

10/17/2011 10:58:37 AM

Whoa whoa whoa... They can use iTunes like a summabitch















because they have too.

10/17/2011 10:59:02 AM

Quote :

"'problems' with iphone -i can't root it and therefore can't customize - lol,yeh you are sitting there all day writing custom OS features -i can't change the battery - you won't ever have to either lol"

-tiny screen
-back glass shatters in a stiff breeze
-no expandable memory
-no swype

10/17/2011 11:05:12 AM

^ it's funny how literally 0 of those affect me

so weird

10/17/2011 11:08:49 AM

my ferrari doesn't tow my mini-yacht either. it's such a piece of shit car.

10/17/2011 11:11:46 AM

You're the one constantly complaining about plastic, but the plastic on the back of most androids is tougher than the back of an iphone so what's the issue?

One of the complaints some people have about the galaxy S 2 is that the back feels fragile, but you're not gonna break that shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErXqnQKs-tA


And if you want to tow a yacht then a Ferrari is a pretty terrible choice in car.

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 11:20 AM. Reason : ]

10/17/2011 11:19:27 AM

nobody is stopping you from buying your F250

i'll stick with my ferrari

10/17/2011 11:21:50 AM

Since we might as well continue this ridiculous analogy you've created:

I will enjoy my Mercedes GL AND my beautiful day at the lake on my boat.

10/17/2011 11:25:48 AM

I'm surpised at the number of people touting apple's build quality when my iPods have been so shitty. they go out after 2 years like clockwork, either from bad memory or bad batteries. I also hate the propietary cable system they use for charging; micro-USB would be so much easier.

are the iPhones, iPads, and iMacs really built better than the iPods, or is this just more typical apple fanboy hype?

10/17/2011 11:33:20 AM

probably just fanboy hype. apple really has no experience building hardware. don't know why i thought to say that.

10/17/2011 11:37:03 AM

Quote :

"they go out either from bad memory or bad batteries "

lol. so which one is it?


my car won't drive now b/c of either no oil change for 3 years or teh fact that i've never bought new tires. had to be one of them. not really sure which one though



[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 11:42 AM. Reason : ,]

10/17/2011 11:39:04 AM

use "edit post" dude

10/17/2011 11:41:50 AM

Didn't realize you could upgrade the memory and batteries in iPods.

10/17/2011 11:43:17 AM

The battery went bad on my old iPhone about a year into ownership. That was the last straw and even though I got it repaired, I never used it again.

10/17/2011 11:44:43 AM

you can't manually replace ipod batteries?
http://www.ipodhowtovideo.com/media/mp4/ipodvideobatterytutorial.mp4

oops. sorry i found a video where you just need a screwdriver and steady hands. my bad. i didn't mean to google that.


ha. oh i accidentally started using drop box and good reader and iCloud on my iphone so i guess there's no chance for me to save GB after GB of files on new memory.. damn.

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 11:48 AM. Reason : m]

10/17/2011 11:46:07 AM

the fact of the matter is... Ive had several shitty LG, Motorola, and Samsung devices and have heard far less complaints from iPhone users... I replaced my LG Voyager (yeah, not a smartphone but still) once, my Moto Droid 2x, and now I refuse to pay to replace the Samsung because its gonna cost $$ for issues with the device that are not my fault.

iPhone would replace it fo free with little hassle. and from reviews/user testimonials, I wouldnt have to replace it anyway.

'it just works'

someone come at me with an argument for an Android/Verizon device that can offer me what iPhone can?

I love Android, don't get me wrong, and I'll apologize again for prefacing this argument incorrectly when it really is just shitty device after shitty device. But hopefully you all are seeing my source of frustration and realize its not [entirely] user error and I've come into some serious bad luck with Android devices.

10/17/2011 11:50:59 AM

^ believe me. they will corner you into believing it's 'user error'

10/17/2011 11:53:38 AM

Quote :

"I'm surpised at the number of people touting apple's build quality when my iPods have been so shitty. they go out after 2 years like clockwork, either from bad memory or bad batteries. I also hate the propietary cable system they use for charging; micro-USB would be so much easier. are the iPhones, iPads, and iMacs really built better than the iPods, or is this just more typical apple fanboy hype?"

I have a 5-year-old iPod 5G that still works great. I used to go running with it (which you're not supposed to do since it has a hard drive), and it still works great.

On the other hand, my 2 year old iPhone 3GS' volume control fell off a week ago. Otherwise it still works great.

10/17/2011 12:00:50 PM

Quote :

"you can't manually replace ipod batteries? http://www.ipodhowtovideo.com/media/mp4/ipodvideobatterytutorial.mp4 oops. sorry i found a video where you just need a screwdriver and steady hands. my bad. i didn't mean to google that. "

And yet you were complaining about how "complicated" it was to root an android.

Seems like you're willing to forgive extra hassle from an apple product though.

10/17/2011 12:05:14 PM

the whole battery thing used to annoy me... and the fact that theres no removable memory still kinda bugs me... but honestly, how often do i take out my memory card in my droid or do anything with the battery? never.

10/17/2011 12:10:24 PM

Quote :

"they go out either from bad memory or bad batteries " lol. so which one is it? my car won't drive now b/c of either no oil change for 3 years or teh fact that i've never bought new tires. had to be one of them. not really sure which one though "

because it's not humanly possible that I've had multiple iPods fail for different individual reasons, nope, not at all. I must be talking about one ipod that died from multiple causes all at once.

a big old LOL at you equating batteries and memory on a sealed electronic device to oil and tires on a car. I'd hate to see what you consider wear items on an iPhone, the screen and the back casing?

10/17/2011 12:13:03 PM

changing oil/tires on a car is relatively simple and the devices (cars) are made so that such maintenance can be performed by the user, or a third party.

On the other handle, apple's batteries are not relatively simple to change and require a trip to the manufacturer.

I mean, if you want to go with this car analogy, then you'd have to have a car that would require going back to the manufacturer to be disassembled to have this maintenance performed.

Or we can stick with batteries. Changing a car battery is easier than changing an iDevice battery.

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 12:16 PM. Reason : .]

10/17/2011 12:14:53 PM

I've used my DroidX for almost a year now and I love it.

The ONLY issue I have had is that the memory card shipped with the phone was a 16GB Class 2. I recently swapped to a 32GB Class 10 and all of my storage issues went away.

I contend that 147% of all Android issues are hardware and/or user related.

10/17/2011 12:19:28 PM

Quote :

"I love Android, don't get me wrong, and I'll apologize again for prefacing this argument incorrectly when it really is just shitty device after shitty device. But hopefully you all are seeing my source of frustration and realize its not [entirely] user error and I've come into some serious bad luck with Android devices. "

No offense, but nobody really gives a shit about your situation anymore. We've moved on to apple-haters versus apple fanboys.

Besides, its pretty clear you've already made your decision.

10/17/2011 12:55:38 PM

Big lol at pack_bryan saying you can't root and customize an iPhone. For somebody who seems to be taking an extremely personal viewpoint, ITT he sure doesn't have much of a clue.

10/17/2011 1:07:19 PM

damn those cheap plastic android devices

10/17/2011 1:08:43 PM

i can't tell you how many times by Droid X has been dropped or accidentally thrown. It's still a champ. A few scratches on the body and that's it

10/17/2011 1:14:27 PM

I've dropped my HTC an obscene amount of times. It has some dents in the edges but that's about it. Once I accidentally flung it down three flights of stairs

10/17/2011 1:18:38 PM

And I've had 3 different iPhones over the last 4 years and dropped them dozens of times with nothing more than a couple of minor scratches.

Funny how there are both good and bad stories to be told on both sides, eh?

10/17/2011 1:19:11 PM

I've seen TONS of cracked iphone screens. Can't recall if I've ever seen a cracked droid screen.

10/17/2011 1:23:56 PM

Quote :

"Can't recall if I've ever seen a cracked droid screen."

You're not looking hard enough lol. There are still plenty out there

10/17/2011 1:25:26 PM

I've seen many more cracked iDevice screens than other phones.

10/17/2011 1:28:13 PM

I wonder if the hole in the gorilla glass for a physical button hurts the structural integrity significantly?

Although it should hurt the international version of the Galaxy S2 also (the one they used) since it also has a physical button, so I wonder if the US versions are tougher?

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 1:31 PM. Reason : ]

10/17/2011 1:30:26 PM

^^Hmm. Imagine that. You've seen more cracked screens on the world's most popular phone than any other. I wonder why that is.

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 1:32 PM. Reason : Couldn't possibly be a sheer numerical probability or anything. ]

10/17/2011 1:30:51 PM

well i don't associate with iDevice users, so I rarely see them.

10/17/2011 1:34:20 PM

Quote :

"Couldn't possibly be a sheer numerical probability or anything."

That might be valid if he had actually compared it to one specific phone than android devices in general.

10/17/2011 1:38:24 PM

</troll arguments>
....


just picked up a 4s during lunch. they said they had a couple left lol.

coworker with an android was playing with SIRI for a good 10 minutes just now. the look on his face was obvious. your eyes and smile don't lie when you are using it.

pwnt.


my only complaint is that it does seem to take a second or so when parsing long voice commands or complex sentences. i guess that's why they are keeping it on the new hardware. dunno. time to investigate.


....
<troll arguments>

10/17/2011 1:42:08 PM

Quote :

"No offense, but nobody really gives a shit about your situation anymore. We've moved on to apple-haters versus apple fanboys. Besides, its pretty clear you've already made your decision."

i know that most everyone has moved on and the haters v. fanboy argument is alive and well ITT, but i was addressing the few comments about the fact that my initial list of issues didnt really have anything to do with Android... but if you had read the previous comments you'd know that now wouldn't you

and yeah, ive made my decision

BACK TO THE APPLE LOVE/HATE CHATTER!

10/17/2011 1:46:58 PM

Quote :

"just picked up a 4s during lunch. they said they had a couple left lol. coworker with an android was playing with SIRI for a good 10 minutes just now. the look on his face was obvious. your eyes and smile don't lie when you are using it. pwnt. "

Yeah it's a fun little program, I'm sure I'd love using it for 10 minutes. Maybe even 15 minutes!

After that though...

10/17/2011 1:53:10 PM

oh so you've used it before. what were your specific complaints?

yeh i don't think it was designed to purely be 'fun' like a game. more for actually doing stuff.

</feeding trolls>

<actual fact>

man. despite the trollery, google mapping shit in the car just got way easy.

</actual facts>

<trolling>
...


[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 1:58 PM. Reason : .]

10/17/2011 1:54:37 PM

meh nice little gimmick but it wouldn't be enough for me to switch since I'm not quite that lazy and don't use the existing android voice options or market apps. Certainly wan't enough for me to jizz over after playing with the 4S for 3 days.

10/17/2011 1:55:37 PM

Swype > Siri.

10/17/2011 1:57:24 PM

Quote :

"oh so you've used it before. what were your specific complaints?"

Not used it. I don't have any specific complaints, just like I don't have any specific complaints about Fruit Ninja, but that hasn't revolutionized smartphones.

10/17/2011 1:57:26 PM

cool story bro.

oh so, you've used siri also^^^,^^ what were your thoughts? and specific complaints?


[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 1:59 PM. Reason : .]

10/17/2011 1:58:39 PM

ha, i'm actually saying some of the troll responses in this thread to siri and it's giving some hilarious replies.



Oh, just a little FYI, last weekend I was in airports, various planes and with tons of people. I would guess the iPhone:Android/other ratio was 20:1

maybe more to be honest like 50:1

enjoy the android. can't wait till they make a decent phone. i'd gladly check it out. something u guys are above saying about apple.

[Edited on October 17, 2011 at 2:03 PM. Reason : .]

10/17/2011 2:00:35 PM