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3/27/2012 3:08:15 PM

Just rewatched the first Alien, and holy shit they don't make movies like that anymore.

3/30/2012 9:34:06 AM

no they do not

3/30/2012 9:36:18 AM

as a fan of both action and sci-fi, i thought the original Alien was too slow for me. I enjoyed Aliens much much better.

3/30/2012 9:36:40 AM

Aliens is also my favorite of the series but Alien is still damn good.

3/30/2012 9:37:23 AM

The cleaned up print (Alien) on Blu-Ray is a whole new experience. It seriously looks better now than any of the other remasters.

I love Aliens, but I'm more of a suspense / horror guy so Alien wins for me hands down.

[Edited on March 30, 2012 at 9:38 AM. Reason : asdf]

3/30/2012 9:37:45 AM

What I liked about it is that it left a lot of the background detail up to your own imagination and was mysterious. The last movie that I can recall doing this for me was The Matrix.

3/30/2012 9:51:23 AM

alien over aliens for me because no annoying as hell bill paxton character

3/30/2012 10:40:18 AM

^Game over man! GAME OVER!

3/30/2012 2:51:11 PM

Is this gonna be another bug hunt, sir?

3/30/2012 3:24:40 PM

So based off of the trailor it is looking very similar to Alien. There are two strong female charaters, a curious dude that opens up pandoras box, an android and... a token black guy. I hope that the plot isn't just a carbon copy of the original movie cuz that would just be lame.

They need to change up a clasic but still manage to impress, kinda like what T4 did.

3/30/2012 6:48:54 PM

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"Just rewatched the first Alien, and holy shit they don't make movies like that anymore."

Agreed. As I said earlier, I love the first three. I cant rate which one I like best between 1 and 2 because they have different feels. If I really had to choose, Id say I like Alien a little bit more, simply because the unknown, creepiness, claustrophobia, and atmosphere are amazing. The entire chapter on the planet and derelict ship is awesome, with the added element of Gigers amazing work.

3/30/2012 8:04:26 PM

Is there a decent AvP film I can watch to get more backstory on this movie? I don't want to do too much research and spoil it for me.

4/10/2012 11:30:07 AM

lol, Aliens vs. Predator, really?

4/10/2012 11:39:19 AM

I see both movies are terrible. Yea that was a dumb question. Guess I'll read up on the connection.

4/10/2012 11:52:10 AM

The first one wasn't bad. Lance Henrickson was breathtaking.

4/10/2012 11:52:49 AM

breathtaking in AvP??!?!?

4/10/2012 12:00:24 PM

Fucking netflix doesn't have Alien on blu ray.

4/10/2012 12:04:37 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Swpl3Mp6A_w&feature=player_embedded

IMAX trailer attached to Titanic 3D

4/10/2012 3:07:47 PM

Yea I saw the trailer for the first time at Titanic in the IMAX and was like omg, omg this looks amazing. I was in the bathroom taking a poop and heard the siren from the trailer from another threater. That was the loudest thing I've ever heard at the movies.

[Edited on April 10, 2012 at 3:47 PM. Reason : .]

4/10/2012 3:42:56 PM

FYI, Walmart has a double feature DVD including alien and aliens for only $10. I snagged a copy today, gonna watch it this weekend

4/12/2012 8:02:25 PM

^^^ Wow. I kinda hope that we can get a screen-by-screen breakdown of that one soon.

4/12/2012 9:59:10 PM

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"FYI, Walmart has a double feature DVD including alien and aliens for only $10. I snagged a copy today, gonna watch it this weekend"

Not certain you can call yourself a fan and not already have the horribly named "quadrilogy".

4/12/2012 10:54:22 PM

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"Not certain you can call yourself a fan and not already have the horribly named "quadrilogy"."

I think some fans don't really want to acknowledge the third film as part of the set. I'm not sure about Resurrection. I thought Camron ruined the second one, it looks too much like left over sets from the termniator...what I loved about the first one was the H.R. Giger looking stuff on everything. It kind of looks like Prometheus gets back to that, but it seems like the deleted scene where Dallas gets morphed into an egg needs to be shown to make the ships transformation make sense (ie, the Space Jockey looking mechanical in the prequel and organic in the original)

4/13/2012 7:30:37 AM

I like Alien 3. I mean, obviously not as much as the first 2 but there's no way I'd write the 3rd and 4th out of the series. All that AvP garbage can go though.

4/13/2012 9:02:12 AM

Aliens 3 was vastly underrated (not as good as Alien or Aliens though)

4/13/2012 9:03:22 AM

So if everyone says Aliens 3 was underrated....was it really underrated??

4/13/2012 10:00:28 AM

underappreciated maybe. I'm not sure what peoples' problem with it was.

4/13/2012 10:04:03 AM

The ending for Alien 3 was just stupid and paved the way for us to have Alien 4. Therefore it loses massive points in my book.

4/13/2012 10:09:58 AM

Alien Resurrection was decent for me until one thing happened. The aliens spit acid. Once I saw that, I was pretty much done with the movie. If they could spit acid, then how were they ever held in captivity in the first place...?

4/13/2012 11:19:32 AM

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"The ending for Alien 3 was just stupid and paved the way for us to have Alien 4. Therefore it loses massive points in my book."

The ending was stupid? Ripley sacrificing herself to prevent the future spread of the xenomorph in the galaxy?

4/13/2012 11:35:55 AM

the whole "we want the alien for the bio-weapons technology" aka research/science plot that Burke had in the 2nd film just seemed like they couldn't come up with anything else

I don't really have a problem with Ripley killing herself to kill the alien, I was just hoping for a little more.

[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM. Reason : the 3rd movie just seemed like it was trying too hard to kill the franchise]

[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 11:46 AM. Reason : kill Newt, Kill Hicks, Kill Ripley, Kill Bishop, Kill em all]



A continuation of the Colonial Marines storyline would have been SO MUCH BETTER

[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM. Reason : .]

4/13/2012 11:45:23 AM

I'm pretty sure the ending of Alien 3 was meant to be the ending of the franchise (or at least Ripley) They didn't write it ending to set up Resurrection (which was awful)

^ The 'we want aliens for bio weapons' idea was there since Alien.

[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM. Reason : a]

4/13/2012 11:46:59 AM

Exactly, the same "we want the aliens for weapons" plot was rehashed in 2 and 3. I'm not saying that Alien 3 was bad but it wasn't even close to the other films.

Not one film tried to explore the creatures in depth which I was hoping 3 would do before I realized it was a "an alien gets loose in a prison and kills everyone" plot.

[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM. Reason : it just wasn't on par with the rest]

[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM. Reason : it was more of a horror film than a sci-fi horror film]

4/13/2012 11:49:57 AM

re-hashed? idk, I like the idea of an ever present side villain with the same motives (like OCP in Robocop)

4/13/2012 11:57:23 AM

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"Alien Resurrection was decent for me until one thing happened. The aliens spit acid. Once I saw that, I was pretty much done with the movie. If they could spit acid, then how were they ever held in captivity in the first place...?"

from wikipedia:
In the original Alien, the facehugger is shown to be able to "spit" acid, melting the faceplate of Kane's helmet and allowing the creature immediate access to the inside. This ability is also exhibited by adult Aliens in Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection; much like a spitting cobra, they use it to blind and immobilize their victims

[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 12:38 PM. Reason : the fault isnt that they could spit, its how could they possibly contain them knowing they can spit]

4/13/2012 12:36:47 PM

I never really thought that the facehugger "spit" acid so much as it has a small quantity of it to excrete it when it has to. It'd be a one-shot deal sorta like a bee stinger, I guess, since the facehugger's only real purpose in life is to impregnate a host and then die. I was trying to rationalize how the colonists on LV-426 could have kept two live facehuggers in the stasis bottles. Since you see the facehugger attach itself to Kane's helmet before it actually gets through, I felt like this made a little more sense. The facehuggers the colonists captured/surgically removed must have used up their acid secretion, and when the colonists put 'em in the base stasis tubes, they couldn't secrete any more to escape.

Full-grown aliens spitting acid like a snake, though... that's a little harder for me to explain away. If they could do that, then why did they have to sacrifice the one early in Resurrection in order to melt away the cell? Why not just spit at it? And if the aliens themselves are aware of the destructive capability of their blood, then how could they ever truly be contained? (The old Dark Horse comics touch on this, in case anyone cares.)

I'm overanalyzing again. Sorry!

4/13/2012 2:17:03 PM

I don't believe any of that.

I think the facehugger melting through the helmet was something that they flat out missed in the first film. Why didn't it melt Caine's face off? Why did it stop at the plastic? Their blood melts through the solid steel (too many examples of this in all 4 films). A plastic shield on a helmet wouldn't stop shit.

I don't remember any spitting Aliens in Alien 3 but I haven't seen that in a while. Regardless, that crap was done to cover up a simple mistake IMO.

4/13/2012 6:08:55 PM

^It's been a long time sine I've seen Alien 3 but wasn't the main one in that based off a dog and not a human? Maybe that has something to do with it? Although I'd think a dog based alien would be more likely to spit since dogs have lots of saliva and drool all over the place.

4/13/2012 6:59:35 PM

They changed it to an Ox because the dog alien was just too damn cute.

4/13/2012 7:15:54 PM

i watched alien 3 like two weeks ago and it was a dog. the alien somehow came out damn near full size already too.

4/13/2012 7:29:39 PM

aliens evolve everytime they change to a different type of host, dogs have faster maturation rates than humans so it makes sense

4/13/2012 7:32:16 PM

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"I think some fans don't really want to acknowledge the third film as part of the set"

Alien3 is great and under appreciated. It goes back to the dark, claustrophobic feeling of the first one, and makes the alien seem much more imposing since they cant easily kill it. Also, I personally love the ending of Alien3 because it ends on an absolutely depressing and almost hopeless feeling. Yes, she kills the alien and queen, but the ending still has a very down and hopeless feeling to it. And if I recall, they use the audio of Ripleys last transmission from the original ending, which is also kind of hopeless. I wish more horror/sci fi type movies ended on a hopeless and dark ending, fuck all that happy bullshit.

Alien Resurrection is pure shit, and should not be considered cannon or part of the series by any true fan IMO.

[Edited on April 13, 2012 at 7:40 PM. Reason : .]

4/13/2012 7:39:32 PM

alien 3: hopeless

4/13/2012 8:03:12 PM

From Wikipedia

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"The Assembly Cut has several key plot elements that differ from the theatrical release. The alien gestates in an ox rather than a dog."

4/14/2012 12:46:18 AM

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"I never really thought that the facehugger "spit" acid so much as it has a small quantity of it to excrete it when it has to. It'd be a one-shot deal sorta like a bee stinger, I guess, since the facehugger's only real purpose in life is to impregnate a host and then die. I was trying to rationalize how the colonists on LV-426 could have kept two live facehuggers in the stasis bottles. Since you see the facehugger attach itself to Kane's helmet before it actually gets through, I felt like this made a little more sense. The facehuggers the colonists captured/surgically removed must have used up their acid secretion, and when the colonists put 'em in the base stasis tubes, they couldn't secrete any more to escape."

You know, if it's an acid in the traditional sense, acids don't "eat through" any material you can come up with. They react with many metals, but not glass. What do you think acids are stored in?


Also, haven't seen the international trailer posted in this thread:

4/14/2012 9:34:45 PM

I fell asleep during Alien, but loved Aliens.. I really want to check out Alien again but just to confirm would anyone agree that Alien began a little slow? I have to justify going out and finding older movies that i don't already own

4/15/2012 1:35:48 AM

I was hoping for these guys

4/15/2012 2:44:27 AM

^that is what first came to mind when I glanced and saw Prometheus

4/15/2012 4:09:07 PM

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"I fell asleep during Alien, but loved Aliens.. I really want to check out Alien again but just to confirm would anyone agree that Alien began a little slow? I have to justify going out and finding older movies that i don't already own"

It suffered from that 70s and early 80s motif of a shit-ton of pointless dialog to set up the characters. Also, because space travel was kind of a big deal during that time, they spent forever on landing the spacecraft with all the radio chatter of the different systems and checks. It took 10 damned minutes to land the ship.

Once they go check out the derelict spacecraft it picks up. And picks up nicely.

4/16/2012 9:12:19 AM