Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this one is not even going to be entertaining." |
Entertaining, maybe not, but very macabre to the point of addicting... 5/31/2012 7:57:20 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I really don't see him getting anything but a first degree murder conviction; especially considering that it happened during the commission of two other felonies. " |
I think it'll be first, and I don't think it'll take too long to get there. I honestly think the goal for his attorneys was to get him LWOP and not the death penalty. Obviously they would prefer 2nd, but in capital cases, most of the time, it's a victory if they aren't sentenced to death. 6/1/2012 8:42:27 AM
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elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
guilty of 1st degree murder. 6/1/2012 2:54:57 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Think they'll go into sentencing this afternoon? Or start that phase of the trial next week? 6/1/2012 3:05:53 PM
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Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
nice 6/1/2012 3:12:34 PM
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MinkaGrl01
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^^it says they'll have the sentencing hearing Monday 9:30am 6/1/2012 3:30:00 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Well, we know everyone on the jury is capable of casting a vote in favor of the death penalty, but I wonder if they will. 6/1/2012 3:32:22 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck the death penalty.
6/1/2012 3:35:26 PM
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wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |

6/1/2012 3:47:18 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck you too buddy! 6/1/2012 3:55:59 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not against the death penalty in theory, just in application. However, to get seated on a capital case, all the jurors must tell the judge and the attorneys that they are capable of casting a vote for the death penalty, i.e. they are not opposed to it morally. But it's been used very seldom in the past few years, that I don't think they'll vote for it in this case. 6/1/2012 4:06:23 PM
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Bullet All American 28622 Posts user info edit post |
i imagine he'll probably want the death after the inmates get a hold of him. i imagine they won't look very favorby on beating, raping and leaving an incapicated woman to die. 6/1/2012 5:02:03 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Really not as much violence in prison as everyone thinks. And they really don't care about murders. You only get alienated for being a pervert, and even then, it's not violent alienation, just shunned. 6/1/2012 8:18:04 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And they really don't care about murders." |
I'd bet they care about murders who were potentially motivated by racism. 6/1/2012 8:43:08 PM
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Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
From the way he's absolutely shown no remorse or emotion in the trial I hope they put him down, honestly. From testimony too, he just sounds like a selfish deviant that doesn't deserve to live. Look at all the things they brought up with how he treated his parents. Again, really tries your moralities and beliefs to hear testimony about people like this, their existence in the world, and the crimes they committed to even have this debate brought up. I guess I feel like death should be used sparingly, but this is one which should get it. 6/3/2012 10:28:22 AM
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parentcanpay All American 3186 Posts user info edit post |
I knew this guy about 6 months before he committed the murder when he was trying to get sober. I remember that he relapsed, got married, and very quickly afterwards I was hearing about the murder charge.
I would have never taken this guy to be a murderer/rapist. He was always perfectly friendly to me and others during the period of time when he was trying to get sober. We used to play cards with this guy often at Cup A Joe on Hillsborough Street (fun fact: the name of the card game we used to play was called Killer.). He never gave off any signs that raised red flags in my mind and just about everybody I know who knew him during this time was completely shocked that he was being accused of these crimes because they did not seem to match his personality whatsoever from back then.
From personal experience, I know that when myself or other alcoholics drink we become COMPLETELY different people. It's beyond mere obnoxiousness or loudness; alcoholics can and often do become very violent and horrible when drunk. For a long time after the charges surfaced I had thought Williford to be this kind of drunk and that he just happened to have the most severe consequences of anybody I had ever seen relapse. I looked at it as another reason to stay clean because myself and many others I knew thought it very well could have been us.
Looking back at the trial, it is quite evident that he had several HUGE issues that desperately needed treatment. However, I still contend that had he managed to stay sober, this crime would have never happened and, assuming he dealt with his personal issues in the way typically experienced by one's progress through AA, he would have been a decent guy. 6/3/2012 2:21:58 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Sentencing begins today.
http://www.wral.com/specialreports/kathy_taft/story/11168490/ 6/4/2012 11:15:07 AM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
Sentencing testimony is over. Arguments tomorrow, and then we'll see. 6/5/2012 12:00:32 PM
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Beethoven All American 4080 Posts user info edit post |
And he got LWOP. 6/7/2012 3:23:47 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Good. 6/7/2012 3:25:22 PM
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wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
bad....anyone capable of doing what he did has no place in society, be it free or prision society. 6/7/2012 3:29:22 PM
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AxlBonBach All American 45553 Posts user info edit post |
i can't help but wonder if this all could have been avoided with better psychological treatment in the years leading up to this.
sad all around. 6/7/2012 3:40:10 PM
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smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Only savages kill their own. 6/7/2012 3:47:26 PM
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synapse play so hard 60941 Posts user info edit post |
Does that make Obama a savage? 6/7/2012 3:56:08 PM
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Bullet All American 28622 Posts user info edit post |
what? get that shit outta here. 6/7/2012 4:18:46 PM
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Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
OMFGRACISM 6/7/2012 4:22:12 PM
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Bullet All American 28622 Posts user info edit post |
OMFGPOLITICALHACKERY in an unrelated thread 6/7/2012 4:29:16 PM
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